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Old 04-11-2005   #51
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I could write a novel on this subject.

But, as in anything else, take some personal responsibility for staying educated on your site metrics. Track your outbound hits, track your ad views, track your CTR. Tweak, squeeze, massage every penny out of your traffic that you can.

Mix up your PPS and Recurring programs, don't do all one or the other. We're sending checks to people that moved on from our program years ago. Ask Peaches. (when she's ready to be asked questions again)

What Mike AI said was very true about processors, we don't live in a perfect technological world. Things break. Scrubbing is tighter than a prom queen's butt crack these days as well.

If you find the golden traffic, you're lucky. Those are the folks you're after. The people that are surfing, not for porn, but for something else. Then, magically, they wind up at your site by some happenstance. Their curiousity got them off track. Those are the ones that whip out the plastic in many cases.

There's also a shitload of money to be made "in the fringe". That was covered in another thread.

I'm gonna shut up now.
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Old 04-11-2005   #52
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I'm always getting webmasters abusing me with shit like this over the years stating that their conversions have dropped therefore we must be shaving. Once a webmaster accused me of what you are claiming above with the bling ... it turns out the site was mostly bookmarkers and revisiting traffic - they took us down for a while when conversions started to drop (because the ads had been seen over and over) and then put us back up a month later and got a bunch of signups straight away (new eyes, new banners, new joins) ......
I was going to say that.

If you have recuring traffic, sponsors will always work better at the begining and than die down a bit...

If you have bookmarks/recuring type traffic, you should ALREADY KNOW that you have to always give them something different. Hell, you should definitely have a rotation of sponsors going all the time. And I dont mean changing it every week, I mean a script that rotates the ads at every refresh.

If you dont, you're stupid. Luckily that can be cured.
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If you dont, you're stupid. Luckily that can be cured.
In some cases yes but there are definitely cases in this world of termial stupidity...
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Old 04-12-2005   #54
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I was saying all this in 97 on Condom.

I remember talking with KK in 97/98 explaining to her everyone shaved.She didn't need it explained twice.

Nothing changes.

they just hide better now LOL

The only stat that matters is the $$$$.

I sent traffic to Serge ,who the first day sent me a CC of a message he sent to John Cotac saying "John turn up the shave , Nick is making too much money"

I stayed with him for years because the shave , and the taunting may have been the biggest in the business but then so were the checks.

I also got the best education in this business money could buy.




How can I shave you?
Let me count the ways........

If you think you aren't being shaved .......... then they should turn it up
As I've always said, that was probably the most valuable lesson I learned about this business.

Bank tellers dont cash stats reports and the branch manager doesnt give a damn about conversion ratios.

Who is sending you the best check the fastest for a given amount of traffic?

I don't care if someone even has stats, as long as my check don't bounce.
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Serge's stats were simple MKStats.

but his wires bought me a Bentley
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Old 04-12-2005   #56
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>>>I don't care if someone even has stats



these poor newbies they are going to be so confused
i wouldn't be starting out in this biz now for anything!!!
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these poor newbies they are going to be so confused
How right you are
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Why not start in this biz right now? You see, most hobbyist surfers that have a notion to dabble into this biz's first exposure is probably the free shit. They've hit a TGP or picpost or MGP (whatever). They, of course, assume that "hey! I can do this!" then start using sponsor content or FHG's in an attempt to make a few bucks. After the first month, they've burned 15-30GB of bandwidth, can't pay for their hosting, and have made about $3.50 (just approximating of course)

If you have half a brain you can make around $500 per day and not even burn any bandwidth to speak of. You just have to use the right kind of program and get some eyeballs on it (which is easy if you know how to do that). h34r:

No spamming, nothing sleazy. Just taking advantage of the intuitively obvious and "power fucking" ( © 1995 - 2005 BillPMB ) it.

Send a couple thousand signups to PMB, I'll put you on easy street.
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Why not start in this biz right now? You see, most hobbyist surfers that have a notion to dabble into this biz's first exposure is probably the free shit. They've hit a TGP or picpost or MGP (whatever). They, of course, assume that "hey! I can do this!" then start using sponsor content or FHG's in an attempt to make a few bucks. After the first month, they've burned 15-30GB of bandwidth, can't pay for their hosting, and have made about $3.50 (just approximating of course)

If you have half a brain you can make around $500 per day and not even burn any bandwidth to speak of. You just have to use the right kind of program and get some eyeballs on it (which is easy if you know how to do that). h34r:

No spamming, nothing sleazy. Just taking advantage of the intuitively obvious and "power fucking" ( © 1995 - 2005 BillPMB ) it.

Send a couple thousand signups to PMB, I'll put you on easy street.
Could you lend me a couple of thousand sign ups and I'll pay you back when I can
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If you have half a brain you can make around $500 per day and not even burn any bandwidth to speak of. You just have to use the right kind of program and get some eyeballs on it (which is easy if you know how to do that). h34r:

No spamming, nothing sleazy. Just taking advantage of the intuitively obvious and "power fucking" ( © 1995 - 2005 BillPMB ) it.
What is intuitively obvious to one is often invisible to another...

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Serge's stats were simple MKStats.

but his wires bought me a Bentley
Hahaha, turn 'em off, turn 'em on. Turn 'em off, turn 'em on.

He charged buyers less and paid more.

I guess he made it up on volume for real
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but not to worry Sarettah, its just a Bill technique to try to convince us all we are stupid for not seeing his greater knowledge
It's working



Damn, another little piece of that old "social engineering"
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but not to worry Sarettah, its just a Bill technique to try to convince us all we are stupid for not seeing his greater knowledge
Why should I have to convince you CJ? Most women are just a life support system for a vagina, and while I'm glad ya'll volunteer for that job, I'm sure the benefits suck.

(not Lisa though, that woman is gold)

Just find something that pays well, and slag it with traffic, you'll make money. A no brainer.



CJ, please don't pick a fight with me, I'm not being cryptic, I like to think folks that read this stuff don't walk around with their knuckles dragging on the ground.

Checking stats:...........

WOOOT!
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Just find something that pays well.
Ah, there's the rub......
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"Just find something that pays well ,and slag it with traffic,""

Agree 100%

And the now bad news....

a.) getting the traffic to slap "it" with
b.) You'll find "it" is not porn



IMHO...
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