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Old 11-01-2005   #1
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SAN FRANCISCO -- The first-ever "Wonders of Cannabis Festival and Exhibition" is drawing thousands of people to San Francisco's Golden Gate Park.It's organized by marijuana activist Ed Rosenthal, who says he wants to underscore what he sees as the public's right to use pot.According to Rosenthal, 750,000 Americans were arrested last year for marijuana offenses. He calls that "a waste of money, a waste of lives and a waste of psyche." He says cannabis has lots of uses for humans and "should be celebrated."The event, which concludes Sunday, features medical and legal consultants, cooking demonstrations and a joint rolling competition.Speakers include comedian Tommy Chong, of "Cheech and Chong" fame. He spent nine months in prison on a marijuana-related conspiracy conviction
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Here's an interesting thought I just had and couldn't come up with an answer.

Name one really successful pot smoker?

I can name a few that never lived up to there promise because they became stoners.

I'm not talking about the occasional toker , I mean hardcore stoners.
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i just go to sleep. not very productive.
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i just go to sleep. not very productive.
Same.

I have worked ( I use the term loosely) with people who light a joint in the morning , they are pretty much are totally useless but insist they come up with really good ideas. They do and they don't.They come up with 100 moronic ideas and 1 good one which you tend to ignore anyway because of the other 100.
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Here's an interesting thought I just had and couldn't come up with an answer.

Name one really successful pot smoker?

I can name a few that never lived up to there promise because they became stoners.

I'm not talking about the occasional toker , I mean hardcore stoners.
Define success.

Though I pretty much agree with you, Nick. Just to be a devil's advocate ...

Hunter S. Thompson?

Timothy Leary?

Tom Hayden became a US Senator ...

Probably a lot of famous writers.

Painters? Dali had to be on something!
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I can't even smoke a joint, the smell alone makes me whitey... thank fuck.
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All of whom i would say never fulfilled there potential.
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Bill Maher admits to being a heavy pot smoker.
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Woody Harrelson?
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Woody Harrelson?
Has he smoked his pants yet?

Good one, Red!! Again, I suspect it doesn't hurt the creative (artist/singer/painter/etc) mind as much.

I doubt you'd see Gates, Jobs (hmm, those iMacs are pretty colorful and funky ....), Trump, Wynn, Mellon, Rockefeller or Carnegie listed as smokers though.
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Howard Marks
WB Yeats
Lewis Carrol
Oscar Wilde
Alexander Dumas
Victor Hugo
Honore de Balzac
Charles Baudelaire
Also quite possibly William Shakespeare
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Howard Marks
WB Yeats
Lewis Carrol
Oscar Wilde
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Honore de Balzac
Charles Baudelaire
Also quite possibly William Shakespeare
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Again, I suspect it doesn't hurt the creative (artist/singer/painter/etc) mind as much.
It doesn't. All my best writing has always been when I'm a little buzzed.

Look at the first 2 years of SNL. They were stoned off their asses and creatively funny as hell.
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It doesn't. All my best writing has always been when I'm a little buzzed.

Look at the first 2 years of SNL. They were stoned off their asses and creatively funny as hell.
And what are they doing now?
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And what are they doing now?
Dead, dead, dead, living off residuals, making movies and (Bill Murray) taking home Oscars.
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And what are they doing now?
Well not counting the few that are dead, not much. See what happened when they stopped smoking.
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And what are they doing now?
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Don't knock AFLAK. I'm sure Gilbert Gottfried is making a shitload as the voice of the duck.
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Its a fucking myth that people are more creative when stoned.

Stoners think they are.
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Its a fucking myth that people are more creative when stoned.

Stoners think they are.
Prove it.
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Its a fucking myth that people are more creative when stoned.

Stoners think they are.
I think it's a matter of knowing your tolerance and knowing yourself.
I'm very creative when a little buzzed, but if I get wasted I just veg out. That's why I don't smoke the way I did when I was younger.
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Here's an interesting thought I just had and couldn't come up with an answer.

Name one really successful pot smoker?

I can name a few that never lived up to there promise because they became stoners.

I'm not talking about the occasional toker , I mean hardcore stoners.
Sir Paul McCartney - Any of you guys reached his level of success?

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No but I have met him a couple of times in the late afternoon and he wasn't stoned.
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George Washington.
Thomas Jefferson.
Maybe Ben Franklin (but he might have just been a drunk too)



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There is a difference between trying it , having a puff once in a while and being a stoner imho.
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There is a difference between trying it , having a puff once in a while and being a stoner imho.
Well, Washington and Jefferson were hemp farmers and Washington most definitely played with the "medicinal" properties, including producing sensimillon.

I would imagine if you were growing some 60,000 acres a season (which Jefferson was), and it was a common ingredient in many many of the medicines of the time (which it was) then you were probably more than a "take a toke every now and again" and more akin to "I smoke this stuff for a living"..

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I love watching all the old stoners try and defend there vice...

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It's been 13 years (and six days, if you want to get precise) since I last smoked, drank or used any substance not perscribed by a doctor. Smoking pot is the only thing I still miss every once in a while.

That being said - after using it regularly for about 15 years it began to do nothing but make me hungry and a little paranoid. I could and did get some great creative ideas when stoned. Never had much success bringing them to fruition unless I was straight, however; and more than half the time, the flash of brilliance turned out to be far less bright in the cold light of day.
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Medical marijuana has a lot of sound uses. However, it is specific in its function. I've used it for pain and it works, however, I can't function at all during the few times I used it. The first time I tried it and attempted to work, I couldn't. It took enormous effort to hit the correct keys while trying to write html. I never tried to work while using it again. I was given a small amount to try and I still have most of it. I'd rather be in pain than out of control like that. I hate that feeling.

People who use it for "recreational" purposes should treat it the same way they do alchohol and not attempt to do any work. You can't work drunk and you can't work stoned. Overindulging in anything is a great way to ruin your life.

The only drug I've ever abused was the "speed" that was available in the early to mid 70's. I had nights where I'd stay up writing. The words flowed like water. When I read them the next day I couldn't believe the amount of drivel I'd written and threw it out. I had thought I was on a "creative high." I wasn't. I was just high.

I have had real "creative highs." They were not induced by any drug, just that rush of creativity that happens to a functioning brain.
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thats funny
i live near Golden Gate park and didnt hear about it

oh well, maybe i can make the next one.
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I love watching all the old stoners try and defend there vice...

ahaha, Good one
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If you think you're a stoner, or used to be one
but never smoked Medical stuff.

IMO you havent smoked shit.
THis stuff is fuckin Bubonic Chronic, gets me fucked up every time.
I dont really get high smokin home grown, BC bud or hydro or mexican garbage
ANd i'm not even a stoner, i smoke few times a month at most durring poker
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Here's an interesting thought I just had and couldn't come up with an answer.

Name one really successful pot smoker?

I can name a few that never lived up to there promise because they became stoners.

I'm not talking about the occasional toker , I mean hardcore stoners.
Mike Wallace from 60 Mins
This guy is like 90 years old and looks like he's 60.
he smoked his whole life til he almost died at 82 getting high with his daughter.


Dravyk, Dali was into LSD if i'm not mistaken and shrooms. How do you think his art progressed like it did.
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I love watching all the old stoners try and defend there vice...

You asked for sucessful folks that smoked pot... Where am I (since you specify OLD) defending shit?

If I felt the need to defend, I would.

Back to the original question. You will never know how many really successful folks are loadies because the folks who smoke dope for a living don't necessarilly talk about it all that much.

Always a good rule of thumb to follow, if you are doing something illegal, don't yak about it
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My theory on drugs is like this

If your ICQ is 125 and after years of frying your brain you're left with 115. You're still Good and smart enough.

If your ICQ is 115 and after frying your brains your left with 105. That you're simply end up as a retard.

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Here's an interesting thought I just had and couldn't come up with an answer.

Name one really successful pot smoker?

I can name a few that never lived up to there promise because they became stoners.

I'm not talking about the occasional toker , I mean hardcore stoners.
How about these 2 "successful" stoners
JoeE, FantasyMan and WebFather lol
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Dravyk, Dali was into LSD if i'm not mistaken and shrooms. How do you think his art progressed like it did.
Hey it had to be some "good stuff" Dali was on. Not surprised it was a lot more than weed! hehe
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JoeE, FantasyMan and WebFather lol
See? Being stoned means you can't count.

Just kidding, but hey, I had to go for it!
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You asked for sucessful folks that smoked pot... Where am I (since you specify OLD) defending shit?

If I felt the need to defend, I would.

Back to the original question. You will never know how many really successful folks are loadies because the folks who smoke dope for a living don't necessarilly talk about it all that much.

Always a good rule of thumb to follow, if you are doing something illegal, don't yak about it
the "old" hit a nerve , huh?

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My theory on drugs is like this

If your ICQ is 125 and after years of frying your brain you're left with 115. You're still Good and smart enough.

If your ICQ is 115 and after frying your brains your left with 105. That you're simply end up as a retard.

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Or as my very good friend Stoner once said, we use 10% of our brains, the other 90% is for drug consumption. Oh he's not a stoner anymore, but Smokey is still very Smokey
If your ICQ is that low you must really be old. Don't you mean IQ?
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slavdogg...that was one of those "how do you know when you've been on the internet too long?" typos. Hang in there.
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slavdogg...that was one of those "how do you know when you've been on the internet too long?" typos. Hang in there.
You also know you've been on too long when you read that post the first time and it slips right by you. LOL. I didn't even catch it until Jim's post.
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See? Being stoned means you can't count.

Just kidding, but hey, I had to go for it!
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slavdogg...that was one of those "how do you know when you've been on the internet too long?" typos. Hang in there.
THat has to be the funniest typo ever
Thats what happens when you're working 20 hour days after taking 20 days off.

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