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I know there's not many tgp webmasters around here but i only need a few to get some opinions
We've been trying to figure out how we can offer tgp teaser galleries without giving away too much of our product, but while still having as many celebs covered as possible. We've also been looking for a way to really sell to surfers and give them a true indiciation of what is in our members area (everything celeb, its fucking cool - xippy has outdone himself on the presentation and programming and honeyblond's team have done a great job of heaps of cool content features).
So we've got a couple of things we are testing out based on our new cms/dynamic modular members area ...
1) Hosted TGP galleries presented in the format of a paysite tour ... eg: page 1 with 15 - 20 thumbs, page 2 with 15 - 20 thumbs, join page - all with scrolling text updates of latest features added to members area.
we've got 6 more similar themes almost complete, only 1 gallery for each which consists of 2 pages each with 15 - 25 pics per page. so its kinda a multi page tgp gallery with a join page attached LOL
2) Auto Updating Text Feed
the galleries have examples of our new updating scrolling ad feed which can be customized & set to suit any page ... this is good for link lists with bookmark traffic so they see something different every day.
Originally posted by cj@Oct 21 2004, 06:13 AM If you'd like to request themes or test these out on tgp's, hit me up or one of the team bling webmasters
Originally posted by cj@Oct 21 2004, 03:13 AM I know there's not many tgp webmasters around here but i only need a few to get some opinions
We've been trying to figure out how we can offer tgp teaser galleries without giving away too much of our product, but while still having as many celebs covered as possible. We've also been looking for a way to really sell to surfers and give them a true indiciation of what is in our members area (everything celeb, its fucking cool - xippy has outdone himself on the presentation and programming and honeyblond's team have done a great job of heaps of cool content features).
So we've got a couple of things we are testing out based on our new cms/dynamic modular members area ...
1) Hosted TGP galleries presented in the format of a paysite tour ... eg: page 1 with 15 - 20 thumbs, page 2 with 15 - 20 thumbs, join page - all with scrolling text updates of latest features added to members area.
we've got 6 more similar themes almost complete, only 1 gallery for each which consists of 2 pages each with 15 - 25 pics per page. so its kinda a multi page tgp gallery with a join page attached LOL
2) Auto Updating Text Feed
the galleries have examples of our new updating scrolling ad feed which can be customized & set to suit any page ... this is good for link lists with bookmark traffic so they see something different every day.
Originally posted by cj@Oct 21 2004, 06:13 AM I know there's not many tgp webmasters around here but i only need a few to get some opinions
We've been trying to figure out how we can offer tgp teaser galleries without giving away too much of our product, but while still having as many celebs covered as possible. We've also been looking for a way to really sell to surfers and give them a true indiciation of what is in our members area (everything celeb, its fucking cool - xippy has outdone himself on the presentation and programming and honeyblond's team have done a great job of heaps of cool content features).
So we've got a couple of things we are testing out based on our new cms/dynamic modular members area ...
1) Hosted TGP galleries presented in the format of a paysite tour ... eg: page 1 with 15 - 20 thumbs, page 2 with 15 - 20 thumbs, join page - all with scrolling text updates of latest features added to members area.
we've got 6 more similar themes almost complete, only 1 gallery for each which consists of 2 pages each with 15 - 25 pics per page. so its kinda a multi page tgp gallery with a join page attached LOL
2) Auto Updating Text Feed
the galleries have examples of our new updating scrolling ad feed which can be customized & set to suit any page ... this is good for link lists with bookmark traffic so they see something different every day.
Originally posted by Cleo@Oct 21 2004, 10:39 AM TGP galleries are one page and free sites are four pages. Not sure what these would fall under.
they fall under whichever category the site owner chooses to list them in!
do you think i should add 2 extra pages and make them more like free/dmoz sites than tgp galleries? the extra pages could be filmographies & gossip feeds perhaps ....
or should i make them more like tgp galleries and put them on 1 page + a join page? join form on the main page even?
Four pages of ads is double as much ads for the surfers to see. Twice as many pages to convince them that your paysite is all that and more or at least spending money on.
LL owners, who are lazy like me, would love them in an easy to import format like a pipe delimited format {Title}|{Description}|{URL} or something like that.
Warning page with just one clear enter link that leads to a main page that has links to the galleries.
Originally posted by Cleo@Oct 21 2004, 06:17 PM Four pages of ads is double as much ads for the surfers to see. Twice as many pages to convince them that your paysite is all that and more or at least spending money on.
LL owners, who are lazy like me, would love them in an easy to import format like a pipe delimited format {Title}|{Description}|{URL} or something like that.
Warning page with just one clear enter link that leads to a main page that has links to the galleries.
Originally posted by Cleo@Oct 21 2004, 09:17 PM Four pages of ads is double as much ads for the surfers to see. Twice as many pages to convince them that your paysite is all that and more or at least spending money on.
that's why i wanted to do more than 1 page tgp galleries
i dont think 1 page does *anything* to draw a surfer to the next step
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LL owners, who are lazy like me, would love them in an easy to import format like a pipe delimited format {Title}|{Description}|{URL} or something like that.
that's easy, once we have a batch we'll output their details exactly like that. we are all for lazy ;-)))) do it properly once and you shouldn't have to do much the 2nd, 3rd & 10th time!
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Warning page with just one clear enter link that leads to a main page that has links to the galleries.
The most adult pic on these galleries will be bikini's ... do we still need warning pages when the site is less offensive than an fhm mag? not just on these but generally?
thanks cleo, appreciate the feedback
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How many times do you think the average surfer sees a paysite or paysite ad before he:
a.) checks it out
b.) signs up.
once if you only work with porn.
as many times as it takes if you work with mainstream and get it in front of their eyes enough times
Warning page with just one clear enter link that leads to a main page that has links to the galleries.
The most adult pic on these galleries will be bikini's ... do we still need warning pages when the site is less offensive than an fhm mag? not just on these but generally?
We may call them a warning page but really they are two things.
One they are another page to put our ads on.
Two they set the theme of the site like the cover of a book does. It is a good place to put the title of the site and put some text for the spiders to chew on.
Outback Cash has about the best FHS that I've seen from a sponsor. Many other sponsors have FHS that are so bad that I can't even add them in.
Originally posted by Opti@Oct 24 2004, 08:43 AM You are right about those Outback Cash Free Hosted Sites, they've worked twice as well as most others I've tried..
So does celebritybling.com have HFS now? Do they come with titles and descriptions so that I can easily import them in?
Best thing that I ever did was switch to a LL script that allows me to import sites. Now if I could only find more places to import from. Trying to find decent HFS in an easy to import format is like mining for gold if not even harder to find a vein.
Yeah FoxyAngel has HFS. Which reminds me I need to bug her to get some more made. I didn't really like the way these were made so I am looking for someone to do the next batch. Also I'm going to tell whoever does them that they need to give me the list with titles and descriptions in pipe delimited for both me and her other affiliates.
Examples of bad HFS
FetishBucks has HFS in pipe delimited formate so I signed up with them. Besides have a big Enter link that goes straight to their paysite next to the small real Enter link their HFS are named TheNiche1, TheNiche2, TheNiche3, etc.
ExtremePaychecks has probably the worse HFS that I have ever seen. I was trying to add them in and since they don't come with titles or descriptions I needed to surf each one to see what it was. I couldn't find how to get in a lot of them and the ones that I did find the enter link I often couldn't find the gallery links.
Let me know when they have HFS and I'll sign up. It is not a niche that I normally promote but I'll add just about anything if they have easy to use decent HFS.
Also pics on HTML are great. Just don't put a huge banner above the pic or something fucked up like that.
Originally posted by Cleo@Oct 25 2004, 01:38 AM Let me know when they have HFS and I'll sign up. It is not a niche that I normally promote but I'll add just about anything if they have easy to use decent HFS.
hehe.. lots of programs seem to be cottoning onto this fact recently... not many have managed to do it right yet though huh! ;-)
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Also pics on HTML are great. Just don't put a huge banner above the pic or something fucked up like that.
small "Exclusive to Private Celebrity" text link under pics on html pages I was thinking. (and it's optional, as part of the linking code, if they are on html or not)
Originally posted by cj@Oct 24 2004, 03:24 AM drav, gonzo, I think you missed the sarcastic jab at my overall dislike for the business model that ruined my original business model
Hmm. Yep, probably missed it.
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you can keep him while he wanks, i want him when he's looking to purchase tissues
Now this I love!! Ancillary and support products and services are the ticket!
Who made the most money out of the FortyNiner Gold Rush? (And is still around today?!)
Originally posted by Cleo@Oct 24 2004, 10:38 AM Let me know when they have HFS and I'll sign up. It is not a niche that I normally promote but I'll add just about anything if they have easy to use decent HFS.
Also pics on HTML are great. Just don't put a huge banner above the pic or something fucked up like that.
i'm going to put the big pics on html pages for these first 2 sample galleries today sometime ...
rather than banners, i'll use the news tickers on the page where ads would normally go, and trying to fill up with text such a profile/bio text etc? there won't be any *ads* as such because this is a paysite tour as much as it is a freesite. there's only 1 sponsor i'm trying to sell ... the join form at the end of the tour!
what is most likely going to happen is whoever promotes them first is going to get their linking code spidered by se's & everyone else will have to compete with that placement ....
i've noticed a couple of webmasters joined up over the past few months, have done hardly any promoting, but just enough to get their linking codes spidered smart!
Do news tickers get spidered, are they tasty to spiders?
As far as who is first I do think that is all that important. More important is how well a list gets spidered by Google and others.
If you are a horny surfer looking to fuck the mom next door you may do a search for MILF Fucking. I do think having good sites listed with lots of tasty spider snacks helps our lists get good SERPs.
It is pretty rare that free sites show up in SERPs.
I like them, CJ, and I think tgp owners will too... I might even go so far as to say you could even skimp a bit more on the content in them and still have a good response to them. Be careful about being busy with TOO many links though, surfers tend to get a little bit gunshy about galleries that have a lot of links on them
i wondered if i was going a bit overboard on pics - some have up to 50 thumbs so i might halve them all into smaller sub niches & just do about 12 thumbs per page
opti, are you sure the tickers don't get spidered?
In the past, they would not be.. now I'm not so sure. It has been considered an advantage of using jscript inserts that most SE spiders have not tried to interpret them in the past btw, so it aint necesarilly a bad thing.
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