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Industry wide, what are the biggest mistakes this industry has made.
I would say one of the biggest was when we started giving everything away for Free Free Content, Free Hosting, I am surprised webmasters are not asking people to generate traffic for them as well. Along the same lines - the absolute GLUT of free content out there. What are some others ? Also can they be "undone" ? |
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Luke Ford?
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I'll just quote Serge. In my opinion this was his greatest quote ever and he's had some pretty good ones over the years. New webmasters make this mistake all the time and it kills them.
"Don't confuse a good business with being good in business" - Serge
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""Treat everyday as the last day you'll be in this business"" - serge
one day you'll be right too ;-)) |
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Industry made no mistakes...there is no "industry".
Everything what you percieve as "industry mistake" was an achievement by indivuduals who ripped the rewards, FAST, lots of it, and left those who haven't jumped on the train of their "mistakes" cold, and with scratching their heads WHY they couldn't do it and now feel victims of..."industry mistakes" ;-))) ..and I'll debate ANYBODY on the issue 'till the cows go home.
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Nick, I recognize this quote better than the one Colin attributes to me,
Colin's quote sounds more like...Webfather ;-)) .and YES, I did exactly as I preached, Baruh Hashem, 'cuz one day I was right ;-))))
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The skills used in the "golden era" of the adult biz , is now best used elsewhere. I always used to say if I could make more money selling widgets online than porn , I'd be selling widgets. errr anyone interested in some widgets? ;-))) |
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"Treat everyday as the last day you'll be in this business" - Serge "Don't confuse a good business with being good in business" - Serge
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- Unethical rebilling and slamming surfers credit cards.....thanks Xpix
- Dialers dropping net connections and dialing out to Bumfucked,Egypt and charging unsuspecting surfers by the minute Its been argued over and over I still think that those examples coupled with the PT Barnum attitude toward surfers has stagnated the business. Plus we've totally moved into fuck the affiliate at all costs era as well. If your running a paysite treat the surfer as a customer because thats what they are and if you want business partners dont rip them off when its time to pay out. You've seen the force of Visa fucking up the billing part of this industry...now Microsoft has stuck its nose in targetting spammers...spam hosters and eliminating the popup with a service pack. In MOST cases the PPS business model is history for paying out webmasters. As with any new business revelation the culling of the herd is in full swing. I love it. Im back on track to make more money than I did last time. And Ill note that I never was an Xpix affiliate or used a dialer. One caveat....to all you drug pushers.... If you advertise a pill at a low price.... at least include the fucking "consultation fee" in the price instead of a detailed invoice after youve charged the card. After Ive waited on em to show up for 3 weeks chances are a surfer will cancel that order after 2 IF he dont cancel when getting pounded up the ass for an extra Cnote.
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In all seriousness now thats actually a good question however, IMHO its to late to even consider doing anything about it, especially given the state of the industry today.
Where to start, board whores, FHG's, traffic brokers, high payouts, the list really does go on and on. I wrote a brief (lol) article along the same lines as the basis of your question several month ago Here and i honestly do think as of right now that for the most part, we have done this to ourselves. It seems the industry is riddled with nothing more than teenage kids looking to get their jollies from a slew of free porn and drug, liquor [insert any other vice or illegal activity here] at the shows which in turn, only escalates the problem further. [spam] Thats actually one of the reasons we are holding the Gay Webmaster Bash in Vegas, to show that a good time can be had by all and that business can actually get done, if the people there want it to be[/spam] I think we are going to have to wait until even more drastic changes are forced upon us by the government before we start to see anything, especially the proliferation of free porn get changed and even then, if the government does regulate 'porn' it will only drive the suppliers of the free stuff offshore. As i say, everything mentioned above has definately become the 'norm' in the industry, especially when in the view of the general webmaster populous at the shows, hell even im guilty of playing it up. The one good thing about this though is that when you see a group of individuals standing on a walkway oggling a group of scatily clad women, you know not to do business with them as they are the ones who only want the free porn, liqor, drugs, food etc. I know speaking from my own experience there was only one event that both Gary and I had planned to spend our full time at and, we did, the others we just showed up invited those we wanted to speak to out to dinner and took the 'real' business away from the dregs. Just my $0.02 on the matter i could be completely off base here [shrug] |
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Maybe you recognize it this way ... Don't confuse a good busines with beeing good in business Oh, and this is from about 1998 or so. :-P
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Especially once Yahoo switch over to their 'search result filtering' technology which will allow users of their engine to automatically remove certain types of 'site' (read as porn) from their search results. |
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I resemble all those remarks!!!! LOL sorry gonzo...the money was on the table. No one wanted it , so we took it. You should have grabbed some  ;-))) |
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