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Old 07-05-2004   #1
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Yesterday Brad "little weasel" Tukhman Shaw made a claim that he is a self made man and made $1,000,000 in 1997. I called it a lie and offered $50,000 if he can prove it.

What is YOUR opinion? Who is now $50,000 lighter, me or Brad "little weasel" Tukhman Shaw?
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1997 wasn't he and a guy that he bribed on the inside at Infoseek doing SE's?

Wasn't that the time when he was BRAT Shaw whining like a lil bitch on YNOT ?

I think your 50k is safe.
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1997 wasn't he and a guy that he bribed on the inside at Infoseek doing SE's?

Wasn't that the time when he was BRAT Shaw whining like a lil bitch on YNOT ?

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A gambling debt is a debt of honour.

Brad "little weasel" Tukhman Shaw has no honour.

You will never get your money.
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Serge we all lie
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True....

But over what a man lies about is an indication of his characxter.


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the Church and me recognises only ONE type of lie to be acceptable:
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I NEVER lie,
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What year did he sell the teen-mail thing to FM?

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he did it in 98-99 as he had no money to keep up his buisness and needed software FM was selling
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If I recall correctly (and could be wrong) 1997 would have been when Brad was just starting Teen Goddess and begining to expand to a few other sites

Don't remember if the piss between Serge and Brad on Ynot (which had all sorts of weird paranoid shit including threats to call the police) was in 1997 or 1998 but I think early 1998

So I don't think Brad did 1,000,000 USD in 1997
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Brad's not a lier.

But he might be a liar. :P
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Serge when I need $50k, I will revisit this thread. Right now $50k would hardly cover my hair care products.
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Serge when I need $50k, I will revisit this thread. Right now $50k would hardly cover my hair care products.
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you owe me $50k and no amout spent on hair products will help your receding hair line or growing nose
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Serge when I need $50k, I will revisit this thread. Right now $50k would hardly cover my hair care products.
Yeah, I have been told getting the back waxwed, and inplants for the balding scalp, can really get into the guys with egos pockets pretty deep...
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Oh Shit!!!

A thread of liars who are calling a guest a liar. Serge, you lost your credibility years ago. I won bets and you never paid. You are a BULLSHITTER, and only other bullshitters like Nick will back you up.

Get with it, furball. You are more boring than I am. :P
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haha... this is getting funnier all the time.

I knew I came here for a reason.
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Oh Shit!!!

A thread of liars who are calling a guest a liar. Serge, you lost your credibility years ago. I won bets and you never paid. You are a BULLSHITTER, and only other bullshitters like Nick will back you up.

Get with it, furball. You are more boring than I am. :P
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wibble...blah whooop woop way hay!!!!

I'm king of the penquins!!!!

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Nick, those are my penguins... leave them alone!

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Nick, those are my penguins... leave them alone!

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Well you keep them , Alex! LOL
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Oh Shit!!!

A thread of liars who are calling a guest a liar. Serge, you lost your credibility years ago. I won bets and you never paid. You are a BULLSHITTER, and only other bullshitters like Nick will back you up.

Get with it, furball. You are more boring than I am. :P
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awww come on!!!

Dont ban her til we have all told her what think of her!!
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awww come on!!!

Dont ban her til we have all told her what think of her!!
she knows it already,
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does weasel Flambe' taste like chicken?

and should you get the red or the white ?
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Oh Shit!!!

A thread of liars who are calling a guest a liar. Serge, you lost your credibility years ago. I won bets and you never paid. You are a BULLSHITTER, and only other bullshitters like Nick will back you up.

Get with it, furball. You are more boring than I am. :P

Speaking of, where is the photo you promised for me sending you the Oprano shirt?

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Yesterday Brad "little weasel" Tukhman Shaw made a claim that he is a self made man and made $1,000,000 in 1997. I called it a lie and offered $50,000 if he can prove it.

What is YOUR opinion? Who is now $50,000 lighter, me or Brad "little weasel" Tukhman Shaw?
I don't know. A million in 97. What's the big deal? Do you guys have short memories? Sorry, I have been lurking but this seems quite possible. I did it and I thought you guys did too.
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Brad's not a lier.

But he might be a liar. :P
I heard he was a lyre.

And that Serge plucks his strings all the time.
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i dont remember if Brad was on ynot in 97, maybe late 97
i'm pretty sure from my memory that 98 was when he started making bank with Pam Anderson promos and than released teengoddess with CTC stats

PureHardcore was launched around Sep of 97 and PlayGal at around the same time, dont remember Brad being around than.
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i dont remember if Brad was on ynot in 97, maybe late 97
i'm pretty sure from my memory that 98 was when he started making bank with Pam Anderson promos and than released teengoddess with CTC stats

PureHardcore was launched around Sep of 97 and PlayGal at around the same time, dont remember Brad being around than.
Salv, your memory is correct,
I helped both programs and I barely crossed 1 mil mark in 97....

do you remember what was the price per click in:
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i dont remember if Brad was on ynot in 97, maybe late 97
i'm pretty sure from my memory that 98 was when he started making bank with Pam Anderson promos and than released teengoddess with CTC stats

PureHardcore was launched around Sep of 97 and PlayGal at around the same time, dont remember Brad being around than.
I was at www.ragingbull.com 24/7 in 97 and 98.
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do you remember what was the price per click in:
the begining of 97? end of 97?
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Early 97, it was still 2-3 cents depanding on the program
IEG, babenet, WebPower, CE's FastCast was closed to new webmasters at that time.

Late 97 is harder to pin down, thats when conversion ratios started to matter
PH was at around 4 cents a click, CE and Intergal invented conversion tables.
SergesCash was around 4.5 cents i think
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Sorry Meni, but Brad is a shithead.... IMHO

look at it this way, clinton lied about a BJ no harm done ...

Bush lied about WMD, and tens of thousands of people died, and are still diying

point is, some liars are worse than others...and the effect of the lie can be very troubling if not kept in perspective....
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In some circles I hear that pay per click will make a come back? what do you oprano's think?
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If I recall correctly (and could be wrong) 1997 would have been when Brad was just starting Teen Goddess and begining to expand to a few other sites

Don't remember if the piss between Serge and Brad on Ynot (which had all sorts of weird paranoid shit including threats to call the police) was in 1997 or 1998 but I think early 1998

So I don't think Brad did 1,000,000 USD in 1997
I think 1997 is a little early. more like 98-99.


how come it seems that every time one of these arguments pop up, the year everyone got started goes back a year.


There were very few legitimate adult millionaires in 1997, maybe 1-2% of those that made it in the years that followed.
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