Yesterday Brad "little weasel" Tukhman Shaw made a claim that he is a self made man and made $1,000,000 in 1997. I called it a lie and offered $50,000 if he can prove it.

What is YOUR opinion? Who is now $50,000 lighter, me or Brad "little weasel" Tukhman Shaw?

1997 wasn't he and a guy that he bribed on the inside at Infoseek doing SE's?

Wasn't that the time when he was BRAT Shaw whining like a lil bitch on YNOT ?

I think your 50k is safe.

:)

good memory, Nick!
word!

WTF!!!!

Is everyone turning black!!!! Fuck!!

;-))))

actually, I am turning GREEN,
not every dat $50 fall in my lap
;-)))

A gambling debt is a debt of honour.

Brad "little weasel" Tukhman Shaw has no honour.

You will never get your money.

Serge we all lie

True....

But over what a man lies about is an indication of his characxter.


;-)))


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Lies are usually caused by undue fear of men. - Hasidic proverb

Little dogs bark from fear.

We seem to have a common thread here

Meni,
the Church and me recognises only ONE type of lie to be acceptable:
The lie for the sake of salvation.

I NEVER lie,
back in 1998 I posted:
I SHAVE and that wasn't a lie
;-))))

What year did he sell the teen-mail thing to FM?

Alex

he did it in 98-99 as he had no money to keep up his buisness and needed software FM was selling

If I recall correctly (and could be wrong) 1997 would have been when Brad was just starting Teen Goddess and begining to expand to a few other sites

Don't remember if the piss between Serge and Brad on Ynot (which had all sorts of weird paranoid shit including threats to call the police) was in 1997 or 1998 but I think early 1998

So I don't think Brad did 1,000,000 USD in 1997

he did it in 98-99 as he had no money to keep up his buisness and needed software FM was selling [/b][/quote]
Fast Cash 2 which I believe was 25k ??

Written , I believe , by BobX ?

Brad's not a lier.

But he might be a liar. :P

Serge when I need $50k, I will revisit this thread. Right now $50k would hardly cover my hair care products.

Cocksucking

Cocksucking [/b][/quote]
Ouch :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Ouch :biglaugh: :biglaugh: [/b][/quote]
Well it is a gay program.

weasel,
you've been caught red handed on another lie,
you owe me $50k and no amout spent on hair products will help your receding hair line or growing nose

Yeah, I have been told getting the back waxwed, and inplants for the balding scalp, can really get into the guys with egos pockets pretty deep...

Fast Cash 2 which I believe was 25k ??

Written , I believe , by BobX ? [/b][/quote]
High Rollers actually... That was his first package that counted signups instead of just clicks.

Oh Shit!!!

A thread of liars who are calling a guest a liar. Serge, you lost your credibility years ago. I won bets and you never paid. You are a BULLSHITTER, and only other bullshitters like Nick will back you up.

Get with it, furball. You are more boring than I am. :P

haha... this is getting funnier all the time.

I knew I came here for a reason. :lol:

confucy ,

wibble...blah whooop woop way hay!!!!

I'm king of the penquins!!!!

eeeecccch!!!!

Nick, those are my penguins... leave them alone!

Alex :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well you keep them , Alex! LOL

confucy ,

wibble...blah whooop woop way hay!!!!

I'm king of the penquins!!!!

eeeecccch!!!! [/b][/quote]
Serenity now with the Penguin cam.
http://www.montrealcam.com/en-biodome.html

bitch,
haven't you learned yet that you are no under circumstances to mention my name in vain? For you I am GOD.

you are so banned......fuck off and stay there.


And stop begging me to unban you.

awww come on!!!

Dont ban her til we have all told her what think of her!!

she knows it already,
and I am tired of a stupid bitch
;-)))

Well you keep them , Alex! LOL [/b][/quote]
:ph34r: When the revolotion comes, all your penguins belong to us. :ph34r:

does weasel Flambe' taste like chicken?

and should you get the red or the white ?

Speaking of, where is the photo you promised for me sending you the Oprano shirt?

B)

I don't know. A million in 97. What's the big deal? Do you guys have short memories? Sorry, I have been lurking but this seems quite possible. I did it and I thought you guys did too.

I don't know. A million in 97. What's the big deal? Do you guys have short memories? Sorry, I have been lurking but this seems quite possible. I did it and I thought you guys did too. [/b][/quote]
confucy,
which part of
FUCK OFF and stay there you don't understand?

I heard he was a lyre. :)

And that Serge plucks his strings all the time.

i dont remember if Brad was on ynot in 97, maybe late 97
i'm pretty sure from my memory that 98 was when he started making bank with Pam Anderson promos and than released teengoddess with CTC stats

PureHardcore was launched around Sep of 97 and PlayGal at around the same time, dont remember Brad being around than.

Salv, your memory is correct,
I helped both programs and I barely crossed 1 mil mark in 97....

do you remember what was the price per click in:
the begining of 97? end of 97?
;-)))

Salv, your memory is correct,
I helped both programs and I barely crossed 1 mil mark in 97....

do you remember what was the price per click in:
the begining of 97? end of 97?
;-))) [/b][/quote]
Serge,

Not off hand mate. Before my time. But I can ring Dean and find out!

:P

Doesn't mean it didn't happen, but from my research and knowing many who had exceeded the mil per year on those days, I don't remember Brad being mentioned in those conversations. You, Ron, Dean, JB (?) and some of the others, but not Brad.

Shit I don't think even the original PB had hit that mark in 97, but I could be wrong there (was it 96), although I am almost sure PG did it first.

Would that be a correct assumption?

What can I say - I am a student of history, and the subject is fascinating.

BTW.. waiting for your call on the vino shipment :huh:

I was at www.ragingbull.com 24/7 in 97 and 98. :matey:

Serge,

Not off hand mate. Before my time. But I can ring Dean and find out!

:P

Doesn't mean it didn't happen, but from my research and knowing many who had exceeded the mil per year on those days, I don't remember Brad being mentioned in those conversations. You, Ron, Dean, JB (?) and some of the others, but not Brad.

Shit I don't think even the original PB had hit that mark in 97, but I could be wrong there (was it 96), although I am almost sure PG did it first.

Would that be a correct assumption?

What can I say - I am a student of history, and the subject is fascinating.

BTW.. waiting for your call on the vino shipment :huh: [/b][/quote]
ScottPB was there BEFORE FM, before Dean, even though they both worked for the same outfir at different times
;-))

Dean, ScottPB, I praise Australians for their guts, business ethics and their iron clad word and sense of honor.

They made me and I NEVER forget good things done for me and return a favor every time I have a chance.

as for vino-
hold it,
and your intention has been noted with a big
:okthumb:

Early 97, it was still 2-3 cents depanding on the program
IEG, babenet, WebPower, CE's FastCast was closed to new webmasters at that time.

Late 97 is harder to pin down, thats when conversion ratios started to matter
PH was at around 4 cents a click, CE and Intergal invented conversion tables.
SergesCash was around 4.5 cents i think

Sorry Meni, but Brad is a shithead.... IMHO

look at it this way, clinton lied about a BJ no harm done ...

Bush lied about WMD, and tens of thousands of people died, and are still diying

point is, some liars are worse than others...and the effect of the lie can be very troubling if not kept in perspective....

no it wasn't.....I was paid myself 3.25 cents per click back than
;-)

no it wasn't.....I was paid myself 3.25 cents per click back than
;-) [/b][/quote]
you're right, your payout was about 3 cents in 97
i should have remembered, cuz that was the last time i sent you traffic :)

and i think PH started at 3.5 cents a click than
that sounds more accurate now

no it wasn't.....I was paid myself 3.25 cents per click back than
;-) [/b][/quote]

3.25 ... haha.. I had forgotten about that.. I remember logging in at the end of the day to see the stats in the text file. :-)

I see Confucy got the boot.. it is so much more peaceful when she isn't here.

3.25 ... haha.. I had forgotten about that.. I remember logging in at the end of the day to see the stats in the text file. :-)

I see Confucy got the boot.. it is so much more peaceful when she isn't here. [/b][/quote]
yeah,
I was watching first season of Sopranos and she reminds me of Lidia way too much
;-)))

In some circles I hear that pay per click will make a come back? what do you oprano's think?

I think 1997 is a little early. more like 98-99.


how come it seems that every time one of these arguments pop up, the year everyone got started goes back a year.


There were very few legitimate adult millionaires in 1997, maybe 1-2% of those that made it in the years that followed.

Sorry Meni, but Brad is a shithead.... IMHO

look at it this way, clinton lied about a BJ no harm done ...

Bush lied about WMD, and tens of thousands of people died, and are still diying

point is, some liars are worse than others...and the effect of the lie can be very troubling if not kept in perspective.... [/b][/quote]
Not sure what you are referring to, but BRad has always been up front and honest with me. He is also a good friend, and all around decent guy, a lot more tha i can say for some of his detractors, thats for sure.