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Old 03-14-2004   #1
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What will be interesting is that once the socialists have power, how they will react to the terror... if they will pull out of iraq, and then try to avoid any problems in the world, then -imho- Spain have lost to the terrorists
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What will be interesting is that once the socialists have power, how they will react to the terror... if they will pull out of iraq, and then try to avoid any problems in the world, then -imho- Spain have lost to the terrorists

Exactly....

How pitiful a country would be to give in like that. The Spanish had a long history with the moors/muslims way back in the day. Instead of backing down they should be ready to fight even more.

Western Europe has become soft.... They could not even clean up a mess in their own backyard ( Yugoslavia mess).
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What other European countries have elections coming up? I will have to scratch them off my vacation list... this is sure-fire incentive for the terrorists to do the same thing in other countries.
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What other European countries have elections coming up? I will have to scratch them off my vacation list... this is sure-fire incentive for the terrorists to do the same thing in other countries.
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Crediting the victory of the socialists to the terrorist attack of last week is just a lttile simplistic, don't you think?
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Crediting the victory of the socialists to the terrorist attack of last week is just a lttile simplistic, don't you think?
PD I am sure you are very happy the socialist won!! You get to wave your red flag!!
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What other European countries have elections coming up? I will have to scratch them off my vacation list... this is sure-fire incentive for the terrorists to do the same thing in other countries.
Austria - President elections - 04/25/2004
European Parliament - Parliamentary elections - 06/13/2004

Other interesting dates:

Deadline for US transfer of sovereignty to Iraq - 06/30/2004
USA - Election Legislative - 11/02/2004

I plan to travel, shop, smile, enjoy life, and spread porn to the arab world on all of these dates - my personal *jihad* against donkey riding terrorists
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Yes, how very interesting.

Instead of reacting to terror by shitting on civil liberties, empowering a conservative religious right, invading other countries, and renaming their food... the PEOPLE decided to run out those that got them in the situation to begin with. What a novel yet simple approach.

And I did read somewhere today that Spain's socialist leaders have said they will be leaving Iraq. I also just listened to some whiners on Fox say that the last time Socialists gained influence in Spain, they were largely anti American and something about them being pro Castro. That can never be good. I bet they dont even love Jesus properly.

Terrorism won, almost brings a damn tear to my eye.

Worked just like it did in Palestine circa 48 and the United States in the mid 18th century.

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Yes, how very interesting.

Instead of reacting to terror by shitting on civil liberties, empowering a conservative religious right, invading other countries, and renaming their food... the PEOPLE decided to run out those that got them in the situation to begin with. What a novel yet simple approach.

And I did read somewhere today that Spain's socialist leaders have said they will be leaving Iraq. I also just listened to some whiners on Fox say that the last time Socialists gained influence in Spain, they were largely anti American and something about them being pro Castro. That can never be good. I bet they dont even love Jesus properly.

Terrorism won, almost brings a damn tear to my eye.

Worked just like it did in Palestine circa 48 and the United States in the mid 18th century.

Stop your crying women.

Labret maybe you will be more comfortable in Spain with the Socialists. They are known for their caring and understanding of people like you.
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Damn, Mike ... how come [Labert] gets to go to Spain and I gotta go to Canada? I'd much rather go back to Spain ... it was an amazing place.

Fucking facists ...
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Because you are an old bitter leftist facist in birkenstocks tightass, you will feel right at home in Canada.
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Crediting the victory of the socialists to the terrorist attack of last week is just a lttile simplistic, don't you think?
no, I do not...
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"Before Thursday, the Popular Party had been favored to win by a comfortable margin"
and if you can't see the "cause and effect",
than I wonder how can you analyse ANYTHING...
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Again, and people wonder why terrorists want to kill Americans. Ill give you two good reasons, GFY and Oprano.
Lensman unbanned you,
go spread the luv....
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Because you are an old bitter leftist facist in birkenstocks tightass, you will feel right at home in Canada.
...and now I know what 6 packs and Labert did in Amsterdam
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Because you are an old bitter leftist facist in birkenstocks tightass, you will feel right at home in Canada.
See here, Mr. Graduate Student sir, the facist comment is laughable, I don't own any Birkenstocks, my ass is none of your bidnez, and bitter? You gotta be kidding me. You're the one who wants to leave the country and is cheered by the success of terrorists.
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I think anyone that doubts that the terrorist attack played a large part in that victory is an idiot.

"Turnout was high at 76 percent with voters seeming to express anger with the government, accusing it of provoking the Madrid attacks by supporting the U.S.-led war in Iraq, which most Spaniards opposed."

That says it all right there, folks.
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The change in power has more to do with the government continuing to blame ETA for the attacks, even after arresting 3 Moroccans, finding verses of the Koran, being given a tape by Al Queda saying they did it and ETA announcing they didn't.

The state owned media stations were still blaming ETA yesterday, it's just pathetic.

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Before Thursday, the Popular Party had been favored to win by a comfortable margin

Before this bombing, even though a majority of Spaniards were against sending troops into Iraq, the PP would have won the election but not comfortably, they would have had to be in a coalition, probably with the basque nationalist, like they did 8 years ago.

But because they lied, then sent riot police out after people demonstrating against them for lying, it sort of pissed the people off.

That and the fact that the out going president was not running again and the man who replaced him as leader of the PP is not that known, and has the charisma of a wet fart probably didn't help matters either



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I think anyone that doubts that the terrorist attack played a large part in that victory is an idiot.

"Turnout was high at 76 percent with voters seeming to express anger with the government, accusing it of provoking the Madrid attacks by supporting the U.S.-led war in Iraq, which most Spaniards opposed."

That says it all right there, folks.
And in the next general election here in the UK, Blair will lose because 82% of the country was against the invasion.... what does that say then?
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And in the next general election here in the UK, Blair will lose because 82% of the country was against the invasion.... what does that say then?
when is the next election in UK ?
is it next year ?
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el pres, what do you think the socialists will do if it turns out to be islamic terrorists? Any sanctions, beside trying to get someone judged?
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el pres, what do you think the socialists will do if it turns out to be islamic terrorists? Any sanctions, beside trying to get someone judged?
Sanctions, are you talking economic or something else, and against who?

Probably just let whoever did it rot in prison forever.


Not to piss off the Americans on this board but you need to remember
that when the IRA was busy bombing England, the US government used to allow them to raise money in the US.

So when you speak of sanctions against Syria or the Saudis for not crackingdown on the funding of terrorist organisations, it a bit of a double standard.


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I'm not sure that people will stick with Labour... Blair's become the most disliked Prime Minister since John Major.(and damn he was disliked)

I however like Blair and I'm pleased to see a Prime Minister that doesn't always bend and sway due to public opinion.... (well he didn't back then but is starting to now)

So I'm thinking it'll be the Torie's that take power, even if it's just for 4 years. Just because most people will want to show their disaproval for the invasion....


And yes the monster raving loony party is still going but they don't get the air time the got with Screaming Lord Such at the helm...
Blair seems a decent enough man, Michael Howard is just too creepy for me, like a slug.

Portillo or Clark would have been a more interesting choice.
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PD I am sure you are very happy the socialist won!! You get to wave your red flag!!
If the flag of the Left is always red, then there can only be one flag of the Conservative Right: White.

Very very and exclusively white. <_<


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Crediting the victory of the socialists to the terrorist attack of last week is just a lttile simplistic, don't you think?
And THAT should win the award for the most simple-minded post ever on Oprano (or any other board).

Pd, your mentality and comprehension are going down that 'slippery slope' at an ever-increasing rate...Have another drink!

Why would I say that? Last week, before the terrorist bombing, the Socialists had no chance at all.
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