The buck starts here! :)

06-17-2003

Hiya folks!

I'm now officially part of the Oprano team and ready to try and make a few waves!

Why "The buck starts here" topic title? Well, outlines for a couple of innovative new traffic generation programs are being looked at right now by the team - and we have more content, sections and money making plans for Oprano webmasters on the drawing board - so yes, hopefully, by being Oprano members you *will* see a good increase in dollar earning capacity!

I know - the adult biz is not the same as 1996/97 or even 98/99 - but there are new opportunities on the way and I see a second wave coming soon - revenues may be down for some - but that's caused as much by (I suspect) Visa/MC as much as by a prevalance of free porn - the like of which we never saw in this quantity pre 2000.

So how do you combat the free porn? Maybe have much better porn, at a price? Stop the free porn somehow? Or what?

How do you combat the Visa/MC cartel and their impositions? Find other billing options - some new ones of which are coming on line in Europe and will in the US soon - verifying over 18 *may* remain a problem - but with digital signatures -I think ID verification will be built in soon - thus proving age too.

Anyway - maybe you can tell - I am quite optimistic about the times I find myself in on the net right now - I had three years of fun and hard slog in pubs, hotels and restaurants - and in a curious way I think I may have learned from some seasoned professionals even better ways to run promotions (or programs).

So please watch this space - and think about any sites you have that you'd like to beta test on our new ideas when they are ready - we want to thoroughly test them to bring them to you in the most effective way.

- Robin.

Anthony · 06-17-2003

Fucking Hell! It's good to see ya back Robin!

SykkBoy · 06-17-2003

I can't wait...

Robin, didn't you also have a pre-paid credit card kind of thing? I forget the name of the program pin-something?

06-17-2003

Sykk,

We got stung - we had a huge takeup - but over 80% of checks bounced - even after we did a basic credit check. There is room in that business certainly - but you need deep pockets to compete...

- Robin.

wig · 06-17-2003

Robin,

Just curious... 80% of checks bounced funding the card? Was it ACH? How were you processing the checks?

Wig

cyberxxx · 06-17-2003

Quote:

So how do you combat the free porn? Maybe have much better porn, at a price? Stop the free porn somehow? Or what?

We should stop posting to TGP I think...

voodooman · 06-17-2003

Robin,

Welcome Back!!!

dantheman · 06-17-2003

Robin, good to see you back and it looks like your on your game

Almighty Colin · 06-17-2003

Robin,

Back to the future, man.

Nice to see you around. I too am very optimistic about the industry. Thre's plenty of room for explosive incomes, creativity, novelty, and other madness.

Mike AI · 06-17-2003

I have seen a sneak peak of some of the things Robin is working on, and I have to say I am pretty excited about it.

Lots of wonderful opportunities....

Opti · 06-17-2003

Hi Robin

That positive 90's outlook on the biz could serve you well among the jaded masses! It looks like your presence already has Colin and Mike pumped... next thing you will have these guys wheeling out new versions of buildinganempire.com and amateurindex.com :P

We didn't cross paths last time around but if you are only half as innovative as this lot have made out, I am very glad I am around to be part of the action this time!

Opti

DamageX · 06-17-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by cyberxxx@Jun 17 2003, 01:47 PM

Quote:

So how do you combat the free porn? Maybe have much better porn, at a price? Stop the free porn somehow? Or what?

We should stop posting to TGP I think...

The way things are going, with every sponsor and his mother offering hosted galleries, you'll stop posting to TGP's, alright. Not because you want to, but because they won't take your submissions anymore. <_<

Anyone else has solutions to that?

sextoyking · 06-17-2003

Robin,

good to see you around here.

If you guys need any help on these projects, please let me know.

thanks

Todd

Timon · 06-17-2003

Hey Robin, welcome back!!

Can't wait to hear about what I can steal ... uh... learn from you this time ;-))

Almighty Colin · 06-18-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Timon@Jun 17 2003, 10:52 PM
Hey Robin, welcome back!!

Can't wait to hear about what I can steal ... uh... learn from you this time ;-))

Learning is good.

Ironhorse · 06-18-2003

Hey Robin, looking forward to all the good stuff

Rolo · 06-18-2003

DamageX, Evolution takes no prisoners...

Robin, good to have you back in the game :-)

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06-17-2003	#9
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06-17-2003	#10
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06-17-2003	#13
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06-17-2003	#1
Robin Nixon Guest Posts: n/a	Hiya folks! I'm now officially part of the Oprano team and ready to try and make a few waves! Why "The buck starts here" topic title? Well, outlines for a couple of innovative new traffic generation programs are being looked at right now by the team - and we have more content, sections and money making plans for Oprano webmasters on the drawing board - so yes, hopefully, by being Oprano members you will see a good increase in dollar earning capacity! I know - the adult biz is not the same as 1996/97 or even 98/99 - but there are new opportunities on the way and I see a second wave coming soon - revenues may be down for some - but that's caused as much by (I suspect) Visa/MC as much as by a prevalance of free porn - the like of which we never saw in this quantity pre 2000. So how do you combat the free porn? Maybe have much better porn, at a price? Stop the free porn somehow? Or what? How do you combat the Visa/MC cartel and their impositions? Find other billing options - some new ones of which are coming on line in Europe and will in the US soon - verifying over 18 may remain a problem - but with digital signatures -I think ID verification will be built in soon - thus proving age too. Anyway - maybe you can tell - I am quite optimistic about the times I find myself in on the net right now - I had three years of fun and hard slog in pubs, hotels and restaurants - and in a curious way I think I may have learned from some seasoned professionals even better ways to run promotions (or programs). So please watch this space - and think about any sites you have that you'd like to beta test on our new ideas when they are ready - we want to thoroughly test them to bring them to you in the most effective way. - Robin.

06-17-2003	#2
Anthony Banned The global leader in pay-per-view AEBN Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,246	Fucking Hell! It's good to see ya back Robin!

06-17-2003	#5
wig Members Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,248	Robin, Just curious... 80% of checks bounced funding the card? Was it ACH? How were you processing the checks? Wig

06-17-2003	#7
voodooman Members Respin bullshit press Your Comments Are Welcomed Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,695	Robin, Welcome Back!!!

06-17-2003	#11
Opti Members Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,205	Hi Robin That positive 90's outlook on the biz could serve you well among the jaded masses! It looks like your presence already has Colin and Mike pumped... next thing you will have these guys wheeling out new versions of buildinganempire.com and amateurindex.com :P We didn't cross paths last time around but if you are only half as innovative as this lot have made out, I am very glad I am around to be part of the action this time! Opti

06-17-2003	#14
Timon Hospitality Supervisor Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,338	Hey Robin, welcome back!! Can't wait to hear about what I can steal ... uh... learn from you this time ;-))

06-18-2003	#16
Ironhorse Members Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 282	Hey Robin, looking forward to all the good stuff __________________ Tib ICQ: 790728

06-18-2003	#17
Rolo Members Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Six Feet Under Posts: 2,150	DamageX, Evolution takes no prisoners... Robin, good to have you back in the game :-) __________________ "Chaos is the law of nature, order is the dream of man." ~Henry B. Adams (Historian) 1838-1918