WEGCash releases 2 new J4F Tours!! MILF Alert!!

[Gabriel]

MatureSex4Free

and

NaughtyWives4Free

have been added to the growing list of Join4Free sites available for WEGCash webmasters to promote!

These two sexy MILF sites are now LIVE and ready to be promoted through our Join4Free program. Earn up to $1.50 per free email signup when you send your traffic to these HOT J4F sites!

Signup or Login today to add these sites to your MILF and Mature pages!

You ask and we deliver!

[TheEnforcer]

I love the MILF niche. Marketed properly it can be quite a boon to your pocketbook. Sites look great gabe.

[Gabriel]

Thank you although i had little to do with the look of the site. Those kudos sre for our awsome team of designers.

[Winetalk.com]

Finally the taste of the market caught up with my taste

[JoesHO]

Excellent sites weg, good job!
can tyou tell me how the e-mail program works?

do you guys buy the e-mails for 1.50?

and what does an e-mail have to be/do to qualify?

[Winetalk.com]

Gabe,
what am I doing wrong?
I registered. I got confirmed.
I am send to the page:
http://free.wegcash.com/prog/display...rdan&siteId=39
and....

It's as free to see anything as your Mandarin!

Are you fucking with surfers?

You should pay $30 for sign up to this "free" sight and I want my $30 for all the time I spent.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

Excellent sites weg, good job!
can tyou tell me how the e-mail program works?

do you guys buy the e-mails for 1.50?

and what does an e-mail have to be/do to qualify?

If this is excelelnt site, from my surfer point of view, I have 12 inches dick...relaxed.

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

If this is excelelnt site, from my surfer point of view, I have 12 inches dick...relaxed.

WOW me too..... we must be cousins!

[Winetalk.com]

now from webmaster's point of view:
it sucks even more.
e-mail list which would be banged ad nauseum and resold 3 times over is worth more than $1.5 per e-mail to the owner.

If I was webmaster - I'd collected e-mails for myself and make much more than $1.50 per e-mail.

Just my 150 cents.

[Winetalk.com]

here is another "fuck you"!

takes you for a loop which brings you back after you jumped thru all the hoops and requires your cc number or check number to satisfy this requirement:
https://free.wegcash.com/premium/auth.html

if one beleives this is real -
I am a Virgin Mary!

[WEGRuth]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

Excellent sites weg, good job!
can tyou tell me how the e-mail program works?

do you guys buy the e-mails for 1.50?

and what does an e-mail have to be/do to qualify?

Hi Joesho,

Here's our payout structure for Join4Free

4 Free Classic Payout Scale
$1.15 per direct signup.
$1.30 per direct signup if you generate over 100 per day.
$1.50 if you generate over 500 direct signups per day.

4 Free Classic (No Console) Payout Scale
$0.90 per direct signup.
$1.10 per direct signup if you generate over 100 per day.
$1.30 per direct signup if you generate over 500 per day.

4Free v.2 (No Deductions) pays $1.10 per direct signup and $0.80 per direct signup without consoles.

The consumer/traffic completes the signup form on the site. Then they must confirm their membership (through an email link). Once they have confirmed via the opt-in link they receive they are classified as a signup for you.

We do NOT accept SPAM, or any form of bulk email marketing. Our TOS has more information about acceptable marketing practices with WEG.

Let me know if you have any other questions Joesho, or if you need any help signing up.

ICQ #233854608
Email - ruth@integralnet.com

[Winetalk.com]

Joesho has similar question Fox News has to president Bush.
How about you make comments to my posts that your sites suck major horse's dick?

[WEGRuth]

Winetalk, it is free for surfers/traffic to sign up to the Join4Free network of sites.

We do not fuck our customers.

We do not fuck our webmasters.

WEGCash has been successfully offering the Join4Free program to its webmasters since 1999. We provide great converting sites, and I'm sure you'll find there are many webmasters who will agree that WEGCash treats both their webmasters and customers well.

[Winetalk.com]

Sweetheart, Jordan's father lived 2 blocks from me, I know your company better than you working for them.
With this out of the way,
my log in is:
russkyserge@yahoo.com
passwd:
Jordan

now...where is a URL of promissed FREE nekkid pic
(5 will do)?
If you can't produce - I'll consider myself fucked and not in a nice way.

Webmasters selling e-mails for $1.5 should feel themselves fucked regardless how I feel.

[Winetalk.com]

...and while you are at it,
please explain me how this works?



What is an 'authorization only' charge?

If it's free, why do you need my credit card or checking account?

Those are two valid questions and here is why we require either one.
J4F Premium offers a totally FREE lifetime membership so you can experience great content without having to pay for it. Unfortunately our
agreements with the content providers require we can only let users view
their content once they have entered a valid credit card or checking
account to access our member area. The only way to comply and please
the content providers, while still giving members FREE access was to do
an authorization only charge. This type of transaction does not charge
any dollar amount on your account, but verifies that the account is
valid; the person is real and knew the correct information that matched
the account information on file.

Though a credit card or checking account does not qualify to verify your age, and you are required to be 18 years or older, it does give the content providers peace of mind knowing they have some course of action should a minor be caught viewing any of their content.


CLOSE

Content providers demanding you collect CC numbers and Bank Acounts??????


Content providers, is thsi TRUE? or UTTERLY BULLSHIT?

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

now from webmaster's point of view:
it sucks even more.
e-mail list which would be banged ad nauseum and resold 3 times over is worth more than $1.5 per e-mail to the owner.

If I was webmaster - I'd collected e-mails for myself and make much more than $1.50 per e-mail.

Just my 150 cents.

Good morning Serge, these are all great questions, this one however stood out a bit so I will tackle it first; I just got in and am about to head to a meeting, however I will give this thread my attention all day.

-

Webmasters are more than welcome to create email collection programs, however utilizing email list is a tough world. I know you and Jordan go way back, however, in concern with your comment about the the list being sold 3 times over, that simply isn't true. We do not sell our email list.

Using all proper, legal protocol, I do not think most webmasters could make more money collecting emails rather than sending to our program. I feel the same about other programs.

[Weg Cory]

BTW Serge, these are all great questions.

This will be a very good thread by day's end.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

Good morning Serge, these are all great questions, this one however stood out a bit so I will tackle it first; I just got in and am about to head to a meeting, however I will give this thread my attention all day.

-

Webmasters are more than welcome to create email collection programs, however utilizing email list is a tough world. I know you and Jordan go way back, however, in concern with your comment about the the list being sold 3 times over, that simply isn't true. We do not sell our email list.

Using all proper, legal protocol, I do not think most webmasters could make more money collecting emails rather than sending to our program. I feel the same about other programs.

darn! too bad you don't sell it, I just been hit on ICQ from somebody who is looking to buy webmaster/affiliate list...like I would know!
You bring good points about difficulties of running your own e-mail programs by small webmasters, tough laws make it harder and harder.

But still, for somebody with the mind for innovations, those obstacles can be overcome and make it rather profitable.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

BTW Serge, these are all great questions.

This will be a very good thread by day's end.

It might be...you are one smart fellow and your answers get nothing but respect from me. I'm sure you'll make all sense to me and others Ruth couldn't.

We are not pissing and just discussing pro and cons, and let THAT be the framework of our Q and A session.

[TheEnforcer]

Thanks for coming over Cory. I look forward to the full thread as I know that you and Serge both will get the best out of each other and the webmasters here will benefit from it.

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

But still, for somebody with the mind for innovations, those obstacles can be overcome and make it rather profitable.

I think this statement is a true yet sweeping statement in every industry. I will now make a sweeping statement that hopefully compliments yours:

In every industry, there are very few people that are innovative and have the ability to tackle obstacles that will make them profitable.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

Thanks for coming over Cory. I look forward to the full thread as I know that you and Serge both will get the best out of each other and the webmasters here will benefit from it.

sorry, but we are not gladiators.

If you wanna watch - you should join it..for "free"

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

sorry, but we are not gladiators.

If you wanna watch - you should join it..for "free"

Funniest post I have read in a long time.

I am going to start a new thread in response to your questions.

[Weg Cory]

In response to the “authorization” charge.

To be honest, I have no idea who wrote that. However, it is of course, only partially true.

The most direct response I can give in this situation is to say: We want the CC. Point blank, we want the Credit Card information, it is the life blood of a program such as ours. That Auth page explanation? We can rewrite it 100 ways that could all be true. That said, I don’t see that page as being misleading as I don’t think it persuades a user to submit a CC. It simply defines one reason we would take the CC.

I can rewrite that page over lunch. But I doubt it would make a difference. I am pretty sure that no one at Weg would trump me if I changed it. In other words, the page is not methodical.






For free content?

We offer free content in Join4Free, however, the ease of access is relative, and therefore I will not define it. I know one thing, we don’t make a living providing the best free porn on the Internet. We make money from consumers upgrading. This presents an all to common problem of balancing between “webmasters” and “consumers.”

We are not a perfect program; We could stand to improve our program for webmasters and we attempt to improve it every day. In the same respect, we are always attempting to improve the program for consumers. At the end of the day, we are trying to flush the program out as a whole so that webmasters make money and that consumers get what they want.

We can’t giveaway the farm for content no differently than we can’t offer $200 payouts and expect to profit.

Here are the key points: Webmasters are always paid even if the consumers never make us money. Consumers are never forced to sign up. If our “free” content is inadequate, the only entity that loses is us, because we already paid the webmaster.


We ensure that our program remains consumer focused in concern with the handling of emails, processing of transactions and consumer support. We do not ever sacrifice our business for profits. I have been here for two years; we have not sold an email list in that time. Our consumer disclosure and mailers are above and beyond in all compliance oriented obligations respectfully.





Why promote J4F over Free Trials?

Well, we have both options in our portfolio. We have our own merchant accounts and we see to it that those accounts remain unscathed. We have a history of doing such.

In our system, we process free trials with EZ Pass. We also have paid trials (I am currently building 2 new paysites that will compliment this portfolio). So lets talk about Free email, Free Trials and Paid Trials.

Where do we want traffic to go? Paid trials. Period. We will make more money for traffic that hits our paid trial sites, not too mention that we get a “proven transaction” out of the deal, as opposed to an “authorization.”

Where do webmasters want to send? Free. They have an easier time promoting free in many cases.

What is the incentive to promote Paid? Exclusive content. Hence, I am having content shot as we speak.

Now, why would anyone promote J4F over EZPass? Because simply put, they do better with the promotion methods that J4F offers. Do not get caught up in thinking that Wegcash is just J4F, I assure you, we do a great many straight Free Paysite transactions and we do a good amount of Paid transactions on a daily basis. However, we do have an elite J4F following.

Could I personally do better with J4F, rather than Free Paysite trials? No. But I am not every webmasters. If I could make the same money as many J4F webmasters make, would I then? Yes, I would. It is a different beast. J4F is a legacy beast in terms of this industry.

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I hope my response is a good start. Keep the questions coming. I am heading to the store now to grab a fruit smoothie for lunch.

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

Funniest post I have read in a long time.

I am going to start a new thread in response to your questions.

I guess I stayed in this thread

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

In response to the “authorization” charge.

To be honest, I have no idea who wrote that. However, it is of course, only partially true.

The most direct response I can give in this situation is to say: We want the CC. Point blank, we want the Credit Card information, it is the life blood of a program such as ours. That Auth page explanation? We can rewrite it 100 ways that could all be true. That said, I don’t see that page as being misleading as I don’t think it persuades a user to submit a CC. It simply defines one reason we would take the CC.

I can rewrite that page over lunch. But I doubt it would make a difference. I am pretty sure that no one at Weg would trump me if I changed it. In other words, the page is not methodical.

Cory,
I speak with some friends who are not webmasters and the memory of
"Your credit card will never be charged" is still alive and well in their memories. I'm sure I don't have to brush yours and you KNOW what I am talking about. Re-writing of this page is not as easy as you think it is.
WEG lawyer will charge a few grands to "study" each revision. Ask Jordan if you don't beleive me,

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

For free content?

We offer free content in Join4Free, however, the ease of access is relative, and therefore I will not define it. I know one thing, we don’t make a living providing the best free porn on the Internet. We make money from consumers upgrading. This presents an all to common problem of balancing between “webmasters” and “consumers.”

We are not a perfect program; We could stand to improve our program for webmasters and we attempt to improve it every day. In the same respect, we are always attempting to improve the program for consumers. At the end of the day, we are trying to flush the program out as a whole so that webmasters make money and that consumers get what they want.

We can’t giveaway the farm for content no differently than we can’t offer $200 payouts and expect to profit.

Here are the key points: Webmasters are always paid even if the consumers never make us money. Consumers are never forced to sign up. If our “free” content is inadequate, the only entity that loses is us, because we already paid the webmaster.


We ensure that our program remains consumer focused in concern with the handling of emails, processing of transactions and consumer support. We do not ever sacrifice our business for profits. I have been here for two years; we have not sold an email list in that time. Our consumer disclosure and mailers are above and beyond in all compliance oriented obligations respectfully.
.

I asked for a lousy 5 FREE PICS URL I am entitled as a member. You gave 17 lines worth of text and ZERO urls. As a surfer, I suffered financial loss due to:
detrimental reliance violation by WEG which resulted in me joining pay sites to get to the content I was promissed for FREE and my credit card was banged 27 times. The word FREE was misleading and the promisses and covenants were broken.

The issue of "circle jerk" with
hasn't even been touched by you.

[Winetalk.com]

Why promote J4F over Free Trials?
I have no problems with.

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

I asked for a lousy 5 FREE PICS URL I am entitled as a member. You gave 17 lines worth of text and ZERO urls. As a surfer, I suffered financial loss due to:
detrimental reliance violation by WEG which resulted in me joining pay sites to get to the content I was promissed for FREE and my credit card was banged 27 times. The word FREE was misleading and the promisses and covenants were broken.

The issue of "circle jerk" with
hasn't even been touched by you.

The MILF content is not present. Other content is present however.

We don't bang the CC at all unless they upgrade. So if they do not find what they are looking for, they have the option to leave without getting charged.

[Winetalk.com]

you are right,
MILF content is not present and I did find some free nekkid pics on the pay site tours,
so this is true but....

If you have MILF entrance and no FREE Milf content,
it's a violation of detremental reliance.

The other thing,
I checked the category which is a story of my life
"More cock than she can handle." and not a single movie loaded.
You think I need to update my quicktimes software?

[Winetalk.com]

[invisible ink] for Cory only

do you have membership in J4F? [/invisible ink]

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

you are right,
MILF content is not present and I did find some free nekkid pics on the pay site tours,
so this is true but....

If you have MILF entrance and no FREE Milf content,
it's a violation of detremental reliance.

The other thing,
I checked the category which is a story of my life
"More cock than she can handle." and not a single movie loaded.
You think I need to update my quicktimes software?

We are changing our movie content to flash files for two reasons:

1) It is better.
2) Too many technical issues cited similar to what you are experiencing.

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

[invisible ink] for Cory only

do you have membership in J4F? [/invisible ink]

Yep, I have one.



Again, free is relative man. Free is being paid for somewhere.

[Weg Cory]

And no Serge, I am not finished with all your questions, so don't be fooled into thinking I skipped anything

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

Yep, I have one.

That's a mistake....you are getting hooked on your own supply


I never joined Yishai's or any other sites I promoted, so when they've come and asked if I knew what was going on -
I gave them the very truthful answer:
NO.

side question:
how do you cancel your "free membership" which "is being paid for somewhere." - your words.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

And no Serge, I am not finished with all your questions, so don't be fooled into thinking I skipped anything

Due to the family obligations, we might continue tomorrow.

[TheEnforcer]

I am greatly enjoying this thread and the webmasters here at Oprano should be as well.

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

That's a mistake....you are getting hooked on your own supply


I never joined Yishai's or any other sites I promoted, so when they've come and asked if I knew what was going on -
I gave them the very truthful answer:
NO.

side question:
how do you cancel your "free membership" which "is being paid for somewhere." - your words.

Technically, if you never upgrade, you never cancel; however, you would (to use appropriate terminology) unsubscribe. And we make that very simple and easy

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

I am greatly enjoying this thread and the webmasters here at Oprano should be as well.

TE, my wife is out of town and I have lots of free time on my hands.
You show me affiliate proggy, and as you know I can't care less if they are Oprano sponsors or not, and I'll find holes and inconsistency and half truths in their shpills to either webmasters, or surfers, or both.

I just donated all my earthly possesions to
Russki-Pusski Crematorium Trust based in Madagascar and practically pennyless. I have nothing to fear and can't be intimidated by frivolous law suits.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

Technically, if you never upgrade, you never cancel; however, you would (to use appropriate terminology) unsubscribe. And we make that very simple and easy

This is a potential LIABILITY.
FTC rules state clearly,
see FTC vs FM,
FTC vs RB and similar cases that UNSUBSCRIBE button should be easily available to members.
I am a member, therefore I have to have access to unsubscribe button BY LAW. Free or not Free....I am not asking for
"I want my MTV",
I am asking what FTC required websights me to have.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

I am greatly enjoying this thread and the webmasters here at Oprano should be as well.

only on Oprano???? Everybody can benmefit from it.
If I was running Oprano, I'd go and post:
"Serge stuck his finger up Jordan's ass, click here for the picture"
on all webmasters boards

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

This is a potential LIABILITY.
FTC rules state clearly,
see FTC vs FM,
FTC vs RB and similar cases that UNSUBSCRIBE button should be easily available to members.
I am a member, therefore I have to have access to unsubscribe button BY LAW. Free or not Free....I am not asking for
"I want my MTV",
I am asking what FTC required websights me to have.

That is what I said, Free members unsubscribe And they have clear access to it.

Free doesn't have a paying membership to cancel.

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Cory,
I speak with some friends who are not webmasters and the memory of
"Your credit card will never be charged" is still alive and well in their memories. I'm sure I don't have to brush yours and you KNOW what I am talking about. Re-writing of this page is not as easy as you think it is.
WEG lawyer will charge a few grands to "study" each revision. Ask Jordan if you don't beleive me,

https://free.wegcash.com/premium/auth.html

I rewrote it. Only John Skorick and our programmer read it prior to upload. No attorney involved, not even Jordan, the only way Jason or Jordan will see this was done is if they log on and view it on Oprano.

I wrote it in Microsoft Word

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

https://free.wegcash.com/premium/auth.html

I rewrote it. Only John Skorick and our programmer read it prior to upload. No attorney involved, not even Jordan, the only way Jason or Jordan will see this was done is if they log on and view it on Oprano.

I wrote it in Microsoft Word

well,
if it lands Jordan and Jason in prison or result in $60,000,000 fine,
it's OK by me,
I'll visit them if worst comes to worst or lend them money at 18% interest.

If you wanna be on the safe side, assuming you like them both, I can have my lawyer review it at the flat rate of $500 payable in advance.

Your choice. I don't intimidate you but as I said..
"somebody gotta pay for FREE"


(I can broker deal with Joe and Gonzo that they delete this blasphemous claim for $300 flat)


Joe, Gonzo, my FREE brokerage fee is just 20%..flat

[Winetalk.com]

side note:
Skoric pays only 50% of whatever you decide to pay. He is married to the old Oprano family and gets "family Jesus look alike" discount!

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

well,
if it lands Jordan and Jason in prison or result in $60,000,000 fine,
it's OK by me,
I'll visit them if worst comes to worst or lend them money at 18% interest.

If you wanna be on the safe side, assuming you like them both, I can have my lawyer review it at the flat rate of $500 payable in advance.

Your choice. I don't intimidate you but as I said..
"somebody gotta pay for FREE"


(I can broker deal with Joe and Gonzo that they delete this blasphemous claim for $300 flat)


Joe, Gonzo, my FREE brokerage fee is just 20%..flat

Does Cory get a 2.5% fee for being in this thread as well?

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

side note:
Skoric pays only 50% of whatever you decide to pay. He is married to the old Oprano family and gets "family Jesus look alike" discount!

hahaha

I will let him know!

[Winetalk.com]

Gonzo, please don't cut yourself on MY action..or you end up paying me some $$ as well. The FREE cutting in fee is a bitch to unsubscribe!

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Gonzo, please don't cut yourself on MY action..or you end up paying me some $$ as well. The FREE cutting in fee is a bitch to unsubscribe!

Hahahahaha I hear its a rough lesson to learn!

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Hahahahaha I hear its a rough lesson to learn!

Our unsubscribe is fine.