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Anyone read about this? Rick has played jokes before for hype, wonder if this is some kind of fake drama?
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I'm pulling my hosting account unless you come clean. Your admin password was comprimised according to the rumor mill. I wasn't going to say anything but someone just saw a trojan on my site.
I want compensation and YOU to take the blame.
I'm fucking livid.
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Funny how quick Rick turned on T. Tony did mroe then just host, he helped build their business.
Some people would say what was done to CJ is "Clever Marketing" It is going to get worse before it gets better....
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Jul 20 2004, 10:31 PM Funny how quick Rick turned on T. Tony did mroe then just host, he helped build their business.
Oh, if I were Sweet T I would be just absolutely livid. Maybe a bit of a lesson learned there for him seeing how quick Rick was to break it off in him. He was on the boards raising hell without even doing basic troubleshooting or even talking to his own guys apparently.
The number of relatively large outfits in this industry who are basically running a house of cards operationally never ceases to amaze me. They depend on those servers for revenue, but they have no monitoring, no controls on who can apply updates, and single points of failure all over the place just waiting to bite their ass.
In this case someone allowed an IFRAME....I'm not sure there's anyone I trust well enough in the industry right now to sell an IFRAME based ad to.
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Some people would say what was done to CJ is "Clever Marketing" It is going to get worse before it gets better....
Funny how perspectives on that change when it's your own customers and traffic that is taking an ass whipping at the hands of this bullshit.
Originally posted by Mike AI@Jul 20 2004, 10:31 PM Funny how quick Rick turned on T. Tony did mroe then just host, he helped build their business.
Some people would say what was done to CJ is "Clever Marketing" It is going to get worse before it gets better....
Yup
I can't speak for Tony, but if it were my business and he went badmouthing it on the boards without even the courtesy of a phone call, I'd shut that fucking server off instantly...
that whole "be careful what you wish for" thing...
Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Jul 20 2004, 10:19 PM Looks like he jumped the gun. One of his own ads apparently biting him. Someone was stupid...errr...naive enough to sell someone an ad using IFRAME.
Gonna be interesting to see what that exploit was mailing....
DOS TIP - Dont get in your stash prior to opening up a can of whoop ass on someone to find out 50 minutes later it was your own zeal to "follow tha money" that fucked you in the ass. Pissing and impared judgement dont mix!
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natnet hosted sites are being blocked by isp's for non-compliance with letting spammers run wild, it doesn't surprise me that they'd host cats being burnt alive mpegs. his site is up now.
this is likely a publicity stunt, i doub natnet would shut anyone down unless they didnt pay their bill.
Originally posted by pushpills@Jul 21 2004, 12:53 AM natnet hosted sites are being blocked by isp's for non-compliance with letting spammers run wild, it doesn't surprise me that they'd host cats being burnt alive mpegs. his site is up now.
this is likely a publicity stunt, i doub natnet would shut anyone down unless they didnt pay their bill.
Apparently Adelphia had them blocked earlier today, but the block was lifted after engineers from both sides talked.
Though that's likely a wake up call that the tolerence of the ISPs is being approached if not exceeded.
1) Whine
2) Complain
3) Accept it
Whattaya know...some people have a problem with step 3.
Originally posted by Rick Latona@Jul 21 2004, 01:04 AM I fucked up. I'm guilty as charged.
Well I have to give you credit for posting this, especially here.
I just hope T doesn't raise your prices too much now!
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I think you went with the right host. I think your content is mostly sick as hell, but I think it has a place on the web and I could care less. I hate cats, but I'd rather throw them off a large building than burn them alive and have it posted.
Good to see you are up and running with no problems. Best of luck, keep some backups in mind.
Originally posted by pushpills@Jul 20 2004, 10:23 PM I think you went with the right host. I think your content is mostly sick as hell, but I think it has a place on the web and I could care less. I hate cats, but I'd rather throw them off a large building than burn them alive and have it posted.
Good to see you are up and running with no problems. Best of luck, keep some backups in mind.
Well our site is pretty hosed right now but that is because our programmer went on a code ripping binge to stop the trojan and fucked up other things.
But it'll all be back to normal soon enough.
Hey, that's 3 posts by me on this board in one day. I think that is a record.
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you know that having stuff like the cat burned alive encourages your faithfull audience to repeat, and, exceed the above said.
encouraging guys to jizz on a girls face is one thing, but hailing and joking about the burning alive of defensless animals really is kinda sick, it really does encourage it considering your loyal audience.
I'm sure you'll make money regardless, but, sometime think about what you are encouraging.
Originally posted by pushpills@Jul 20 2004, 10:30 PM Addition....
you know that having stuff like the cat burned alive encourages your faithfull audience to repeat, and, exceed the above said.
encouraging guys to jizz on a girls face is one thing, but hailing and joking about the burning alive of defensless animals really is kinda sick, it really does encourage it considering your loyal audience.
I'm sure you'll make money regardless, but, sometime think about what you are encouraging.
...Best wishes.
I won't defend this point here. I'm in enemy territory. That said, have a nice night everyone. I'm going to try and get some sleep.
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War executions and such are one thing, but, animal torture that was most likely made on purpose in hopes of getting on your site......don't you feel bad about that?
War executions are ONE thing?!?! WTF is that?!
WAR EXECUTIONS ARE FINE??? burning cats are NOT???
maybe if we saw more burning cats every week we would just as de-sensitized to that as well!
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War executions and such are one thing, but, animal torture that was most likely made on purpose in hopes of getting on your site......don't you feel bad about that?
War executions are ONE thing?!?! WTF is that?!
WAR EXECUTIONS ARE FINE??? burning cats are NOT???
maybe if we saw more burning cats every week we would just as de-sensitized to that as well!
war executions are newsworthy, and al-qaeda isn't beheading people to get on consumption junction. The fact that they were on CJ isn't going to cause them to behead an extra person.
Give someone who likes to torture animals a forum where that shit is appreciated, and they'll go from cats to dogs to kids just to play to their audience.
I for one am waiting for the day when they go too far and get shut down - as someone said above, its a house of cards ... its built with hangers on who will only support the house while its handing out money!
Its the ultimate beer money crowd destination, encourage 20something morons and their ho's to do stupid illegal shit for the fame and glory, throw parties so people will say how great they are etc ...
Speaking of showing off for the masses, how is cybererotica doing these days?!
Just remember that to Ashcroft, one exsposed breast on a statue in a federal building was 'going to far'. I will be honest, I get much more offended when I see a kid smack a guy in the head with a skateboard, or a bunch of kids beating the shit out of some other poor kid laying on the ground then I ever would over a cat getting burned. But I think all of them should serve jail time. I just wish someplace like CJ would have to give up the records of how they got this content, start holding some of these people responsible for their actions. would it ever work? Probably not
Originally posted by cj@Jul 22 2004, 05:14 PM I'd give them a few years (too generous?) before they are shut down by someone who they least expect ...
I know for a fact, that US and EU officials have been meeting several times planing a common goal against "illegal" and "harmful" content on the Internet (so sites can not just move from one country to another, if they get into problems). Now I have no idea about what kind of content consumption-junction have etc, so this comment is not towards them or similar sites..
However sites doing a mix of user submitted content and paid content. which mix includes adult/porn fantasies and very graphic real/fantasy violence etc. they will surely get the attention of the authorities, and I do not think many of them generate enough revenue to cover the legal fees fighting the authorities.
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