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Talking to Joesho, interesting thought came into my mind:
the role of BULLSHIT in this business.
I wonder, would this business survived without bullshit? I see huge piles of it behind every success story on the adult net
(some non adult too!)
Bullshit became such an integral part of internet business life,
we practically don't even notice we swim in the bullshit ocean.
...and if you wanna tell me, you, your proggy, your product uses bullshit which doesn't smell, or doesn't use it at all-
allow me to retort with:
B U L L S H I T ! ! !
Being able to survive will come down to sifting through bullshit, recognizing what is bullshit and what is reality, and then acting upon it.
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Yeah, I agree learning how to wade through bullshit, can be very distracting too many at times .
and frustrating to say the least for many others.
People that understand, that there must be the necassary bullshit, and can seperate the necassary from the non necassary, sure seem to make it a lot farther in life, no matter what businees they are in
Was, not for the first time, watching the World Poker Tour the other night. When it got down to the last four in the four million dollar final, the announcer kept saying "These guys don't even need cards." It was just all down to pure gambit, postering, bluffs, counter-bluffs, and who could best bullshit and rattle the other guy.
This business would still be in the dark ages without bullshit. Myself, I keep it all aboveboard, but I can't totally condemn those who've bullshitted their way to the top and then managed to stay there. A lot of bullshitters are also innovators.
I actually think the bullshit factor is getting lower in this business now, as more and more of the cards are played and less and less cards remain to be seen.
If something comes along to really reshuffle the deck, you will see the bullshit factor go much higher again on that new situation.
Alex
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Originally posted by LadyMischief@May 1 2004, 03:07 PM This business would still be in the dark ages without bullshit. Myself, I keep it all aboveboard, but I can't totally condemn those who've bullshitted their way to the top and then managed to stay there. A lot of bullshitters are also innovators.
LadyMischief - Sorry I don't know you personally and you seem like a nice sort
But here we go for the BS factor, found in 6 seconds or less
I see you promote Legendary Lars in your sig, can you say that progam has no BS?
Originally posted by RawAlex@May 2 2004, 09:33 AM I actually think the bullshit factor is getting lower in this business now, as more and more of the cards are played and less and less cards remain to be seen.
I don't think business would survive without BS. Look at Microsoft when they first started - Gates and Allen (I think) selling their software as complete before they had anything. I think that every business sells BS.
Poker face... self confidence... those are necessary in business, I think. I'd pretty much argue till I was blue in the face about never bulshitting anybody with my hosting company, former phone sex program, new billing company, paysites or anything else in my whole adult experience.
Perhaps that's why we've only got three vehicles at home instead of legions of exotic cars.... those are going to take a few more years! Never made an easy buck, unfortunately, but I do sleep well at night. Work hard, be persistent, smarter than the other guy or gal if you can be..
But - This business was really built on trust - trust that you are going to count my sales correctly, trust that whatever affiliate program is going to actually pay me.
Now - that trust has been tempered in the last few years significantly but there is still a lot of trust required.. Granted we all base on trust on bullshit but hey........ Its till trust.
There is a whole lot of difference between blowing your own horn, about accomplishments - and embellishing or making up lies. I have always considered the first to be bragging & the latter bullshit. Maybe everyone definition of BS is not the same.
It is just too bad that 75% or more, of what everyone does everyday; is to create a favorable perception of them or thier product or services. It is just biz..... and I guess necessary.
But, did you realize how much of everyday (even in your personal life) is spent trying to impress or please OTHER people, and not what YOU really want to say or do? It comes out often in what you wear, how you fix your hair, the car you drive, insincere compliments (because it is expected) and the list goes on......
It is a whole lot less stressful, when you finally can come to the conclusion that in your personal life - some of those things just 'don't matter.... It is more important that you like yourself & other people like you for 'who you really are.
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@May 2 2004, 02:50 AM Bullshit became such an integral part of internet business life,
we practically don't even notice we swim in the bullshit ocean.
Serge is so right.
This board says no BS or spin posts, but that is pretty much 95% of what is here and any other board.
Some would advise: Do not go into business with friends or their children. Some would advise: Do not lend friends money or borrow it from them. We urge the opposite, however, but with all due caution. Why should a little friendship stand in the way of business? And if you ever have to deal harshly with a friend, you'll know his hangouts and habits, the bettter to facilitate any action against him you may want to take. Nothing personal, just business.
Originally posted by cj@May 11 2004, 09:23 AM >Business is business and personal is personal
Lindsay, from page 32 of The Mafia Manager ...
Some would advise: Do not go into business with friends or their children. Some would advise: Do not lend friends money or borrow it from them. We urge the opposite, however, but with all due caution. Why should a little friendship stand in the way of business? And if you ever have to deal harshly with a friend, you'll know his hangouts and habits, the bettter to facilitate any action against him you may want to take. Nothing personal, just business.
Dayum you have a bug up your ass about me girl
So let me get this straight, first a nobody, then a thief, then a homophobe, now some mafia figure.
OK, so that makes me a unknown homophobic kleptomaniac sociopath who eats lots of pasta
Oh damn, I gotta go and lie down, this laughing is killing me.
btw.. NEVER go against the family.
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