please rate(rape) my gallery attempt

nap · 04-02-2003

still playing around with gallaries and whats appealing. this is what i've come up with while watching the war on whatever.

i will not be using my cox space when i finally submit my gallaries, i will move them all to my paid hosting. so please, comments, problems, suggestions, rants, knocks, whatever i'm thankful!

http://members.cox.net/naptymespn/latina/latina.html

RawAlex · 04-02-2003

Squished thumbs ain't pretty...

Alex

Vick · 04-02-2003

Where to start
1 - you're serving from cox.net http://www.cox.net/wwwredir/index.htm . I think that is an ISP and you may be in violation of their terms but not sure
2 - Compressed pix look poor, make actual thumbnils not not just resize the pix

gigi · 04-02-2003

1. A plain white background! make it interesting for the surfer! Try using a colored table on the gallery. Try matching the colors with the colors of your sponsors tour....
2. Both text links are the same wording. Diversify! Neither text refers to 'latina' which is what you are trying to sell. Get a couple of good text links going that will get a latina looking surfer to click!
3. No text accompanying the banner. Try a good one liner right above or below the banner pumping up your sponsor.
4. At 800x600 you are forcing a horizontal scroll....make the thumbs small enough so that doesn't happen.
5. Try using a mouseover on your sponsor links so the surfer doesn't see your sponsor code. This can up your click thrus by up to 10%.

Hope this is helpful

gigi · 04-02-2003

Oh, and if you want a good thumbnail maker/gallery page maker try:

Arles
http://digitaldutch.com

sarettah · 04-02-2003

Ok.. lets see....

First of all, like was said before me, make some actual thumbnail images to show. The way you have done it, you are loading all your full size pics into the gallery then forcing them into a smaller box. This produced the distortion affect. It also burns a shitload more bandwidth then you need to. I looked at the properties on 2 images, they were 36k and 38k respectively. You are showing 13 images, at an average weight of 37K, that is 481K being loaded just to view the page. At that rate you will be burning a gig of bandwidth just on images for every 2079 page views...

You could make this a lot smaller by using thumbe... Size them at about 100-125 on the long side (depending on who you might be listing with) take them down in weight to a max of 2.5 or 3k. If you can average out at 2.5k then you are only burning 32.5k per page load and you will burn one gig with every 31,250 page views, so more than 10 times the number of cattle..err I mean surfers can look at the page. That is 10 times the sales opportunities.

Speaking of sales... You are wasting your best sales area, the top two inches of the page. Put a nice juicy graphic banner up there surrounded with some good juicy text.... Like gigi said.. You repeat the line "can you fill her up from behind" as two text links.... You have two links there, use them both to talk to your cattle..er.. damn I hate when I do that...I mean surfer....

Get rid of the banner on the bottom of the page, it is wasted bandwidth.. Put a nice text link to your empire or to an alternate sponsor...

You dont have this page at all search engine ready... You need to do up your meta tags.... get your keywords in there... Use your alt tags for descriptive phrases, get keywords and spider food in there anywhere that you can.....

Get rid of the div tags in the code...they are doing nothing for you.... Instead size your tables around 600 or 650 and align them at center... AOL's default browser is 800X600 a nice 600 pix table centered works great for the aol losers...err I mean users (sorry about that, these things just tend to come out...eeek)

If you are going to do this stuff, you need to get away from thinking like a surfer... You are offering up some nice pics with absolutely no incentive to make them go to the sponsor... You are a webmaster now, surfers are cattle.. herd them up... make them want to click on that sponsor, talk to them, convince them..... Give as little as possible away for free... your job in this thing is to sell the sponsor, not your content...

Hope that helps

edited to include credits....

btw, everything I know I learned at VNWR

Last edited by sarettah at Apr 2 2003, 11:57 PM

nap · 04-03-2003

thanks for your info, im gonna work on my gallery.

04-02-2003	#2
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04-02-2003	#3
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04-02-2003	#4
gigi on prozac - be gentle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada, eh! Posts: 1,069	1. A plain white background! make it interesting for the surfer! Try using a colored table on the gallery. Try matching the colors with the colors of your sponsors tour.... 2. Both text links are the same wording. Diversify! Neither text refers to 'latina' which is what you are trying to sell. Get a couple of good text links going that will get a latina looking surfer to click! 3. No text accompanying the banner. Try a good one liner right above or below the banner pumping up your sponsor. 4. At 800x600 you are forcing a horizontal scroll....make the thumbs small enough so that doesn't happen. 5. Try using a mouseover on your sponsor links so the surfer doesn't see your sponsor code. This can up your click thrus by up to 10%. Hope this is helpful __________________ A bit of fragrance always clings to the hand that gives the rose mail me

04-02-2003	#5
gigi on prozac - be gentle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada, eh! Posts: 1,069	Oh, and if you want a good thumbnail maker/gallery page maker try: Arles http://digitaldutch.com __________________ A bit of fragrance always clings to the hand that gives the rose mail me

04-02-2003	#6
sarettah Stay Out Of The Box Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lost in the ozone Posts: 10,318	Ok.. lets see.... First of all, like was said before me, make some actual thumbnail images to show. The way you have done it, you are loading all your full size pics into the gallery then forcing them into a smaller box. This produced the distortion affect. It also burns a shitload more bandwidth then you need to. I looked at the properties on 2 images, they were 36k and 38k respectively. You are showing 13 images, at an average weight of 37K, that is 481K being loaded just to view the page. At that rate you will be burning a gig of bandwidth just on images for every 2079 page views... You could make this a lot smaller by using thumbe... Size them at about 100-125 on the long side (depending on who you might be listing with) take them down in weight to a max of 2.5 or 3k. If you can average out at 2.5k then you are only burning 32.5k per page load and you will burn one gig with every 31,250 page views, so more than 10 times the number of cattle..err I mean surfers can look at the page. That is 10 times the sales opportunities. Speaking of sales... You are wasting your best sales area, the top two inches of the page. Put a nice juicy graphic banner up there surrounded with some good juicy text.... Like gigi said.. You repeat the line "can you fill her up from behind" as two text links.... You have two links there, use them both to talk to your cattle..er.. damn I hate when I do that...I mean surfer.... Get rid of the banner on the bottom of the page, it is wasted bandwidth.. Put a nice text link to your empire or to an alternate sponsor... You dont have this page at all search engine ready... You need to do up your meta tags.... get your keywords in there... Use your alt tags for descriptive phrases, get keywords and spider food in there anywhere that you can..... Get rid of the div tags in the code...they are doing nothing for you.... Instead size your tables around 600 or 650 and align them at center... AOL's default browser is 800X600 a nice 600 pix table centered works great for the aol losers...err I mean users (sorry about that, these things just tend to come out...eeek) If you are going to do this stuff, you need to get away from thinking like a surfer... You are offering up some nice pics with absolutely no incentive to make them go to the sponsor... You are a webmaster now, surfers are cattle.. herd them up... make them want to click on that sponsor, talk to them, convince them..... Give as little as possible away for free... your job in this thing is to sell the sponsor, not your content... Hope that helps edited to include credits.... btw, everything I know I learned at VNWR Last edited by sarettah at Apr 2 2003, 11:57 PM __________________ Free Adult Webcams

04-02-2003	#1
nap Members Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 17	still playing around with gallaries and whats appealing. this is what i've come up with while watching the war on whatever. i will not be using my cox space when i finally submit my gallaries, i will move them all to my paid hosting. so please, comments, problems, suggestions, rants, knocks, whatever i'm thankful! http://members.cox.net/naptymespn/latina/latina.html

04-03-2003	#7
nap Members Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 17	thanks for your info, im gonna work on my gallery.