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Old 11-18-2002   #1
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I am not trying to be an alarmist, but the period of November 18th - 29th carry some very dangerous cycles that could involve some surprises.

Although I believe that any events, whether they be this month or in mid-January, are only precursor events to the more dangerous cycles surrounding Sept - Oct 2003, I have learned to anticipate fundamentals when there is a large synergy of cycles.

Most would agree as to the players and the likeliness of war, and I am only speculating on the timing. With that in mind, and only in conjunction with the plethora of cycles that are aligned, the coming holiday period is one of the most vulnerable economic periods in recent history.
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When Wig gets weird, he goes all the way.

And .. you're being an alarmist. ;-)
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When Wig gets weird, he goes all the way.

And .. you're being an alarmist. ;-)
Colin, back in 2000 I told a few people that Sept 2001 was a huge cycle period and that I expected a MAJOR low in the Stock indexes. Look what happened.

Look what happened on my cycles periods where I also projected a low in July and again in October. All in advance and all posted right here.

It is what it is. I would be remiss if I did not at least acknowledge the possibilities / probabilities and likely corresponding fundamentals.

And... I am being a realist.

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Saddam might attack because Mars is aligned with Venus or what?
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The liklihood of an attack from Saddam I think personally is far less than the liklihood of an attack from Al Queda. Iraq is much more easily punished for any open actions than a terrorist organization that can move about at will. I doubt that Saddam, even as crazy as he is, would actually give the entire world an open invitation to come in and kick his ass. He would be writing his own death warrent, as if it wasn't already written.
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Saddam might attack because Mars is aligned with Venus or what?
I vote to attack Venus to avert a dual catastrophe in the Middle East and NYSE

where is Madame Cleo when we need her?
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I guarantee something will go bad in the world Nov. 18-29. Something is going terribly bad every day. Something is going on terribly bad right now. How would you verify the predictions of any such method? Sounds like Modern day Nostradamism.

Also .. Do you mean for the world or the US in particular?



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there is NATO summit here in Prague Nov 21st-24th, btw
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Colin,
the proof will be in the form of major drop of the stock market.

Wig,
am I answering it correctly for you?
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there is NATO summit here in Prague Nov 21st-24th, btw
Prague looks so beautiful in pictures. I really need to plana trip.
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Colin,

I have somewhat detailed for you in email how I approach cycles and, as you know, it has nothing to do with Mars or Venus.

I believe I have shown by past forecasts that my cycle work has some validity. Those who have been following closely can see this.
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I called John Edward of the TV show crossing over with some serious questions about our future.

here is the transcript of that conversation:

JR: Mr Edward, what can you tell us about Iraq and the stock market?

Edward: .... Hmm..... i sense something.... i sense something either good or bad..... does this mean anything to anyone?

JR: *slightly befuddled but trying to be respectful* --- "uhmm... could you elaborate?"

Edward: "its about the energy... i dont have a clear picture, just a sensation. this sensation i feel right now is either good or bad"

JR: so what does that mean exactly?

Edward: "look, i dont know how to make it any clearer"
*fat lady in audience shakes her head in disgust at my questions and apparent disbelief*

JR: I am not sure what is clear? are you predicting something will happen?

JR: ok... lets start over.. what exactly are you sensing will happen?

Edward: I am sensing big change.

JR: can you elaborate?
*fat lady in the audience throws her french fries at me and screams "your just an asshole... why dont you go home with all the other negative assholes"

Edward: you see, change will come, i know this because i can sense it. the sensation is really strong. i can also feel the definate sensation that it will be either a positive or negative change.

JR: can you describe the "change" exactly?

Edward: *chuckles, trying to show patience with my stupidity* of course! The change will be something different than before. You see JR, thats what change is.
*fat lady in the audience now laughs triumphantly at my brutal defeat*

JR: ok. what i can gather from todays conversation is that you know something will happen, but you dont know what?

Edward: Look JR, are you trying to be ignorant? i told you what. I told you it will be a good or bad change. How can it be clearer?
*several fat ladies in the audience chuckle together at me being buried in a storm of logic that only wayward, divorced housewives of talk show audiences seem to understand as i leave the stage*
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Colin,
the proof will be in the form of major drop of the stock market.

Wig,
am I answering it correctly for you?
;-)
Serge,

Actually, there is some truth to this but with a small caveat. I stated in October that I felt that a low was in the making. It was during the same period when many were predicting a collapse.

I think we have just realized the first leg up from that low and that now the market is vulnerable to a "B" wave decline. This "B" wave decline will be a sharp pull-back which I believe will be followed by another rally into January.

If it unfolds like I think, this could be a very important top.

My comments regarding Saddam or Al Qaeda are based on middle east cycles. Again, I believe any near term events to be a precursor to Sept - Oct 2003 when the real fireworks are likely.

We'll see.
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Wig - you are only publishing and recalling your successes and not your failures. Selective results.

Curious though - how would you apply any such methodology to the Earth as a whole?

"the period of November 18th - 29th carry some very dangerous cycles that could involve some surprises."

How would you know if you were right or wrong? What constitutes success? Another bombing in Israel, a natural disaster, a new law passed by the evil Republicans?
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Wig - you are only publishing and recalling your successes and not your failures. Selective results.


How would you know if you were right or wrong? What constitutes success? Another bombing in Israel, a natural disaster, a new law passed by the evil Republicans?
Colin,

Feel free to highlight my failures. I have never professed to know it all or to be right all the time.

I measure whether I am right or wrong in dollars in my portfolio.

If you and JR want to make fun of my work I'm cool with that.
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Wig - if you want a very interested audience, try your methods on the NFL and beating point spreads.
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Wig - if you want a very interested audience, try your methods on the NFL and beating point spreads.
Colin,

I am interested in making money in my investments and speculations in the markets. I do not care about football, nor have I put any time towards studying it. I have been studying and trading markets for 17 years.

The fact is, the equity markets and events in the middle east are closely related.

My post was not meant to get into a debate about the validity of cycles, astrology, football spreads or psychics. Some people may find it interesting and see the correlation and others just like to stir shit.
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wig,
I am selling positions bought in October and raise cash to take advantege of any drop.

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Serge,

Thanks. I'll let you know when I have specific price targets for the anticipated low.
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Wig,
Again, I don't know why you waste your time revealing your market & cycles calls here! For most, you could connect the dots and they STILL won't see the picture!
Fuck'em!

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i am not making fun of you Wig. i am just joking with myself at your expense. sorry.

everyone who predicts anything is vague and points to past successes to give those predictions credibility.

Gamblers remember the times they won... and forget the times they lost. in fact, the more they lose, the more they believe they will win. Thats why hundreds of billions flow through Vegas every year and why Trillions change hands in the stock markets.

I never met a gambler that did not believe he had a system.
I never met a gamber that won more than he lost.
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My post was not meant to get into a debate about the validity of cycles, astrology, football spreads or psychics.
Surely you understand Oprano's cycles though.
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i am not making fun of you Wig. i am just joking with myself at your expense. sorry.

everyone who predicts anything is vague and points to past successes to give those predictions credibility.

Gamblers remember the times they won... and forget the times they lost. in fact, the more they lose, the more they believe they will win. Thats why hundreds of billions flow through Vegas every year and why Trillions change hands in the stock markets.

I never met a gambler that did not believe he had a system.
I never met a gamber that won more than he lost.
JR,

It's all good and no need to apologize.

While there may be some vagueness regarding the middle east events to come and my post, my forecasts on markets (including both price and time) have been pretty specific.

If you have never met a gambler that makes money, you better get out more. There are many forms of gambling. For instance, do you not think Warren Buffet gambles when he decides to invest?

What about a business owner? Did you and Colin not gamble when you started pleasure labs?

Yes, trillions change hands in the stock market, but it is a zero sum game. For every buyer there is a seller.

Your explanation and conclusions of the life and times of the "gambler" leave a lot to be desired.
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Wig,
Again, I don't know why you waste your time revealing your market & cycles calls here! For most, you could connect the dots and they STILL won't see the picture!
Fuck'em!

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Again, I don't know why you waste your time revealing your market & cycles calls here! For most, you could connect the dots and they STILL won't see the picture!
Fuck'em!

BPJ,

It's all in the exposure.

Controversial topics rule and they can't always be about politics.
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I wouldn't have even considered the possibility that you'd be offended. You're WIG!

Okay.... Thanks for the confirmation.
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"Inquisition". Interesting choice of words.
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Your explanation and conclusions of the life and times of the "gambler" leave a lot to be desired.
ok :P
will you reveal the "secret formula" ?
or is this a personal thing between you and Saddam?
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Again though Wig, I think you are ignoring the fundamental question and it should be simple to answer. How will we know whether you are correct or incorrect about November 18th - 29th? What constitutes success and failure? I mean - considering the number of problems in the Middle East normally, there aren't that many thing worthy enough of fulfilling predictions. A suicide bombing in Israel is just par for the course. So is blowing away another Iraqi radar installation.
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"Inquisition". Interesting choice of words.
Not sure what you are trying to imply.

"Curious though - how would you apply any such methodology to the Earth as a whole?

"the period of November 18th - 29th carry some very dangerous cycles that could involve some surprises."

How would you know if you were right or wrong? What constitutes success? Another bombing in Israel, a natural disaster, a new law passed by the evil Republicans?"

Inquisition - The act of inquiring into a matter.

Personally, I thought Ophiuchus was a much more interesting choice.
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will you reveal the "secret formula" ?
Yes, "Inquiring Minds" want to know.
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Wig - certain historical undertones come to mind when one says "Inquisition".
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Again though Wig, I think you are ignoring the fundamental question and it should be simple to answer. How will we know whether you are correct or incorrect about November 18th - 29th? What constitutes success and failure? I mean - considering the number of problems in the Middle East normally, there aren't that many thing worthy enough of fulfilling predictions. A suicide bombing in Israel is just par for the course. So is blowing away another Iraqi radar installation.
Colin, what I would term as a surprise would be Saddam lobbing a few missiles at Israel or Al Qaeda pulling off another attack. It would have to stand out.

Anyway, this is secondary to market action where I am concentrating my efforts to be correct as much as possible.
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Yes, I would consider that a surprise too but you're EXPECTING it.
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The proof of whether wig is correct or not will be plainly visible based on what the markets do. What or who the event involves isn't the important part when looking at markets from a technical analysis point of view. I don't think wig is Nostradomaus he's just very good at identifying market cycles. Then again, maybe he is Nostradomaus...
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The proof of whether wig is correct or not will be plainly visible based on what the markets do. What or who the event involves isn't the important part when looking at markets from a technical analysis point of view. I don't think wig is Nostradomaus he's just very good at identifying market cycles. Then again, maybe he is Nostradomaus...
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I don't think wig is Nostradomaus he's just very good at identifying market cycles. Then again, maybe he is Nostradomaus...
i dont want Wig to be Nastradamaus. That guy scared the shit out of me when i was little. Then i will have to be scared of Wig.

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Yes, I would consider that a surprise too but you're EXPECTING it.
Colin,

C'mon, guy.... I am merely expressing a probable time frame, based on prior events of similar magnitude, to watch for a POTENTIAL event.

I am not long "Saddam will lob missiles into Israel" futures contracts.

See the difference? I suspect you have already.
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The proof of whether wig is correct or not will be plainly visible based on what the markets do. What or who the event involves isn't the important part when looking at markets from a technical analysis point of view. I don't think wig is Nostradomaus he's just very good at identifying market cycles. Then again, maybe he is Nostradomaus...
Ulfie,

Thanks for expaining it this way.

I have no visions, and I certainly am not psychic. I study history (mostly market history) and I make assessments of probabilities.

Anyone who invests in any market has to base their decisions on something.

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JR - how about Hal Lindsey's "The Late Great Planet Earth"? I saw Lindsey on TV just the other day - still predicting the imminent "end of times". I read many such books as a child. I remember in particular that a "survey of psychics" thought a third world war would be fought and they all agreed that 2000 was the Grand Finale. 2000 came and went and it sure scared many. Now, of course it should be obvious to them that they were just projecting their own Cold War fears onto their predictions. I seriously doubt THEY see it that way though.

Edgar Cayce, Jeanne Dixon, Richard Kieninger. What happened?
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I hope there are no battlefield nukes missing.

Watched that film "Bad Company"with Anthony Hopkins and Chris Rock
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JR - how about Hal Lindsey's "The Late Great Planet Earth"? I saw Lindsey on TV just the other day - still predicting the imminent "end of times". I read many such books as a child. I remember in particular that a "survey of psychics" thought a third world war would be fought and they all agreed that 2000 was the Grand Finale. 2000 came and went and it sure scared many. Now, of course it should be obvious to them that they were just projecting their own Cold War fears onto their predictions. I seriously doubt THEY see it that way though.

Edgar Cayce, Jeanne Dixon, Richard Kieninger. What happened?
i had a girlfriend in high school and after that thought the world would end in 2000. talk about fucking depressing.

it was always a toss up between going to see a movie together, or putting a gun in my mouth and pulling the trigger.
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Wig,

the stock market is not a zero sum game, broker's fees and exchange fees prevent that.
but it's also not a random walk as some people think.

one word describes the correlation between the middle east and the stock market - OIL.

I'm also interested in the cycle technieques your using, I've studied technical analysis but never turned into a good trader, the psychological part is the hardest part of trading.
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Originally posted by wig@Nov 18 2002, 12:15 PM
The premise that a cycle progression in middle eastern events may parallel markets cycles and events is secondary to the market action itself. Nevertheless, it is worth observation IMO.
How would you even begin to determine that? How do you chart middle-eastern events and then determine that an underlying pattern exists and will consistently repeat? Which middle eastern events and dates are part of this cycle you mention and how do you predict the next one?

Why should such patterns exist for something as vague and humanly defined as "events in the middle east"?

or are you saying you are predicting a movement in the market and speculating that the cause of that would be a middle-eastern event. That would still be the same thing though. You would be able to demonstrate that there is a clear pattern to historical events and that it can be used to predict the future.

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