Old timers, since you are gone now , why do you keep coming back to ...

[JoesHO]

waller in the mudd with us lowly surfmasters?

and try to keep telling everyone how MUCH MORE powerful and smart and rich you are THAN THE REST OF US WORKLING CLAS SLOBS?

is it Nostalgia? are there no other places to try to lie about your value to an industry you are no longer relevant in ?

is it out of Jealousy?

do you need the attention that badly?

or do you feel you can somehow hurt the business trying to be done, and a business that is trying to be run properly and honestly here ?

It is just amazing to me to watch grown men that claim to be wealthy and wise, come and do nothing but cry and moan .

really quite comical if you ask me .

[softball]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

waller in the mudd with us lowly surfmasters?

and try to keep telling everyone how MUCH MORE powerful and smart and rich you are THAN THE REST OF US WORKLING CLAS SLOBS?

is it Nostalgia? are there no other places to try to lie about your value to an industry you are no longer relevant in ?

is it out of Jealousy?

do you need the attention that badly?

or do you feel you can somehow hurt the business trying to be done, and a business that is trying to be run properly and honestly here ?

It is just amazing to me to watch grown men that claim to be wealthy and wise, come and do nothing but cry and moan .

really quite comical if you ask me .

I would say all of the above. Relevance being the most important. We who actually work and support this business have no interest in outdated business theories that don't work on the net any longer. Mostly because they are either hated or illegal as fuck. I hope Oprano can morph into something relevant to today's internet marketing reality. Enouguh potty mouth bullshit already.

[fusionx]

I'd be happy to see the old timers here if they would just give me some cheese.

Not a lot, maybe a few slices now and then.

Not the expensive stinky cheese; maybe some swiss, or some gouda.

Just a little cheese, that's all I ask, and for which I would be very grateful.

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by fusionx

I'd be happy to see the old timers here if they would just give me some cheese.

Since some people and companies do not like the taste or smell of old cheese, then they rather just throw it out of the the fridge, and pretend that the best cheese in the world is ultra mild cheese, which doesn´t scare away the kids

[Jace]

Originally Posted by fusionx

I'd be happy to see the old timers here if they would just give me some cheese.

Not a lot, maybe a few slices now and then.

Not the expensive stinky cheese; maybe some swiss, or some gouda.

Just a little cheese, that's all I ask, and for which I would be very grateful.

I like some cheese every once and a while too

[JoesHO]

I got some fomunda cheese for anybody that is nhungry and willing to work for it .


anybody ever had any fomunda cheese before ?

[helix]

No fomunda cheese. Only goat cheese.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

I got some fomunda cheese for anybody that is nhungry and willing to work for it .


anybody ever had any fomunda cheese before ?

LOL

and no, thank god...i wash down there

[Jace]

Gouda RULES!

[softball]

Reggiano....old, sweet, expensive, and elegant. It is always better to acquire your own cheese, toss out the moldy old shit, get a bottle of nice wine and enjoy your success. Anything less is sucking the hind tit.
And if you are really successful, then you can try great vinegar. It is more expensive and requires good taste to appreciate. Something that I have found very lacking in the past.

[vdc-Loki]

well since I've been in the biz for about 12 years I'd call myself an 'old timers' but since I never made millions of billions of dollars during that time no one seems to care

-Loki-

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by vdc-Loki

well since I've been in the biz for about 12 years I'd call myself an 'old timers' but since I never made millions of billions of dollars during that time no one seems to care

Age is a state of mind

[softball]

Originally Posted by vdc-Loki

well since I've been in the biz for about 12 years I'd call myself an 'old timers' but since I never made millions of billions of dollars during that time no one seems to care

-Loki-

I looked up old timer and it seems it is not a synonym for rich. I am sure there are tons of people who are more recent and have made a shit pot of money. I laugh when I hear the term old timer being used on someone who has been in the biz for what....ten years? I hate to say it, but I made my first successful soft core porn video in 1982. I left the adult business and concentrated on more mainstream entertainment until the internet gave us the opportunity to end run esurient distributors in the nineties. Now that was a time for sure. Lots of people who were around then are still here. Many more have crashed. As for no one caring, I am not quite sure that is the case. If you are still standing, then it means you have cracked it. Lots of the paper tigers could never survive today if they were just starting out and a lot of their "advice" no longer applies. So congratulations on a long internet life.

[JoesHO]

Let me be clear, by old timer --- I do not mean hard working men and women that have been in the industry for a long time .

I mean the useless fucks that always talk down to people like they are better or smarter than them.

Maye I should think of a better /different term.

[softball]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

Let me be clear, by old timer --- I do not mean hard working men and women that have been in the industry for a long time .

I mean the useless fucks that always talk down to people like they are better or smarter than them.

Maye I should think of a better /different term.

I kind of like "useless fucks" myself....works for me. Some are smart, but most are just plain devious. There is a huge difference. There are a lot of rich morons. Brittany Spears comes to mind.
Money can buy a lot of things, but it can't buy class.

[el pres]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

Let me be clear, by old timer --- I do not mean hard working men and women that have been in the industry for a long time .

I mean the useless fucks that always talk down to people like they are better or smarter than them.

Maye I should think of a better /different term.

They are far from usless..

I remember you asking them for advice on a number of occassions

[softball]

Originally Posted by el pres

They are far from usless..

I remember you asking them for advice on a number of occassions

You can learn always learn something from just about anyone. It doesn't mean they are sage or indeed even schooled. Sometimes they are pompous and just plain lucky. Anyone can pontificate when they win the lottery.

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Anyone can pontificate when they win the lottery.

You see that is the difference between us... old timers doesn´t play the lottery, they build, own or control it

[softball]

Originally Posted by Rolo

You see that is the difference between us... old timers doesn´t play the lottery, they build, own or control it

No, Rolo. That is exactly what I did and am still doing. Not sure how long you have been doing it.

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

Maye I should think of a better /different term.

Everyone be quite Joesho is thinking - disturbing a sleepwalker can be dangerous

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by Rolo

Everyone be quite Joesho is thinking - disturbing a sleepwalker can be dangerous

yes, you know me so well. ....


how did you become so dominate in the ways of internet saavy again ?

oh thats right you are NOT

hahaah LOL LOL

anythg useful to offer here Rolo? or are you just bored and slumming ?

tell us how to do it , how do we become great and successful like you ?
Just throw the dog one bone would ya?

or is hate, stupidity, and Jealousy all you have to offer here ?

ANYTHING positive?

[softball]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

yes, you know me so well. ....


how did you become so dominate in the ways of internet saavy again ?

oh thats right you are NOT

hahaah LOL LOL

anythg useful to offer here Rolo? or are you just bored and slumming ?

tell us how to do it , how do we become great and successful like you ?
Just throw the dog one bone would ya?

or is hate, stupidity, and Jealousy all you have to offer here ?

ANYTHING positive?

Is rolo rich and successful? I have no idea. This is not meant to be confrontational, just curious.

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

ANYTHING positive?

Yes, I´m glad that Earl Miller is still paying your bills

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by Rolo

Yes, I´m glad that Earl Miller is still paying your bills

hahaha just wait there is so much more to come.....

but since you know me so well

tell us what all I am working on

[NickPapageorgio]

Originally Posted by Rolo

Yes, I´m glad that Earl Miller is still paying your bills

Hopefully soon we'll be able to stop getting the charity from Earl. We're launching www.sexyjoesho.com in a couple weeks and it's expected to do quite well. SO many people get a hard-on for Joe...we just figured it was the next logical step.

[Jace]

[softball]

"I can sit by watching as the idiotic spam by surfmasters for surfmasters increases, while surfmasters get lined up to go to the AEBN/Xpeeps reform school. "

Man, you need counselling. You are an angry man. I don't see any idiotic spam from anyone but you. I see an emasculated fuck with a hard on for Oprano sinking like a sunset.

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I see an emasculated fuck with a hard on for Oprano sinking like a sunset.

So you never took my poll http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=46958

[softball]

Originally Posted by Rolo

So you never took my poll http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=46958

You should ask trev, nick and serge....all who banned, censored and generally fucked with people's postings effectively trashing the board. Now look before you leap.

[Trev]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

You should ask trev, nick and serge....all who banned, censored and generally fucked with people's postings effectively trashing the board. Now look before you leap.

The really cool thing is that I got paid to do it as well. I can't grumble about that...

[softball]

Originally Posted by Trev

The really cool thing is that I got paid to do it as well. I can't grumble about that...

Just not very much....lmfao....duh

[softball]

BTW, Rolo, while you might think about a few of the above points while you wait for the paint to dry. Its a bitch sitting in a corner all alone.

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Its a bitch sitting in a corner all alone.

You speak of experience?

[softball]

Originally Posted by Rolo

You speak of experience?

I do. Damn you are too easy rolo. There you go lowering the IQ again. You make my point with every post you make. Keep em coming, kid.

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I do. Damn you are too easy rolo. There you go lowering the IQ again. You make my point with every post you make. Keep em coming, kid.

Says the morron who have been coming back to Oprano for years with new nicks - yet hated it here (well, until the surfmasters took him in as a friend, oh well, they will soon learn that history repeats itself).

A genuine question - are you a Masochist?

[domtheboy]

Originally Posted by Rolo

A genuine question - are you a Masochist?

A genuine question ? Sounds more a like a rhetorical question to me.


The guy couldn't dig himself into the shit faster if I lent him a JCB.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Rolo

Says the morron who have been coming back to Oprano for years with new nicks - yet hated it here (well, until the surfmasters took him in as a friend, oh well, they will soon learn that history repeats itself).

A genuine question - are you a Masochist?

And now you are well, loved? Oh damn, you are still here. foot meet mouth.

[JoesHO]

damn man you are really clueless, and just grasping at straws huh.

No puppetmaster, no hidden agendas, only business people that want to encourage other business people to do adult business.

no elitist that think they are better than anyone, no misinformation to manipulate newbies.

just plain and simple good conversation is all that is sought here .

but yet you keep coming back with venom, and saying you are the one trying to raise the Oprano IQ??????

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

just plain and simple good conversation is all that is sought here .

Lets be honest here. You want a board, so you can spam whatever XYZ flavor you try to push. You will not be at the boards, if there were no possibilty to do just that. Now that doesn´t make you wrong - its just takes away from you argument that you are here for the "simple good conversation". You are here to spam - thats it, don´t be affraid to call yourself what you do

Why have you been advocating for months (years?) that the old guard need to leave? My guess is that you think you can push your product to those that are left, without being called a newbie

[softball]

Originally Posted by Rolo

Lets be honest here. You want a board, so you can spam whatever XYZ flavor you try to push. You will not be at the boards, if there were no possibilty to do just that. Now that doesn´t make you wrong - its just takes away from you argument that you are here for the "simple good conversation". You are here to spam - thats it, don´t be affraid to call yourself what you do

Why have you been advocating for months (years?) that the old guard need to leave? My guess is that you think you can push your product to those that are left, without being called a newbie

There is no old guard. Never was. It was a spin machine that spun south.
......just admit that the waters around you have grown.....

[Jace]

I think it is funny the things that people THINK they know, but they are actually totally off with the information......

[JR]

its very amusing that the same few fucking idiots who claim they are here for constructive business discussions can't stop pissing with those who obviously aren't. it's simple idiots... don't reply, don't start these threads, don't reply to other threads started by shit disturbers and shit dies down. but you can't can you? because you both the same. you are all no different than those you claim to dislike.. different sides of the same coin and threads like this prove it.

the bottom line is that you guys are basically newbs talking above your own heads, that frequently got ripped apart by your betters. happy that your betters left out of respect for gonzo, you can't stop talking about the new environment you created for yourselves... never once realizing what has been lost and never understanding why all the bigger players and big ADVERTISERS used to read this board.

its a strategy i guess... if you can't hang with truly intelligent people, then strive to surround yourself with retards so that you can then stand tall among complete idiots and feeling satisfied that you have become the new genius'. while you three amigos (jace, joe, rhetorical) are sitting here alone, patting yourselve's on your back... consider once and a while why you are sitting here alone in the darkness, stop to ask yourselves once in a while why no one is advertising and why fewer and fewer are reading this board.

its amazing. a few fucking idiots triumphantly standing together together claiming some sort of victory. never once realizing or accepting that others simply got tired of engaging in a battle of wits with unarmed surfmasters.

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by JR

its very amusing that the same few fucking idiots who claim they are here for constructive business discussions can't stop pissing with those who obviously aren't. it's simple idiots... don't reply, don't start these threads, don't reply to other threads started by shit disturbers and shit dies down. but you can't can you? because you both the same. you are all no different than those you claim to dislike.. different sides of the same coin and threads like this prove it.

the bottom line is that you guys are basically newbs talking above your own heads, that frequently got ripped apart by your betters. happy that your betters left out of respect for gonzo, you can't stop talking about the new environment you created for yourselves... never once realizing what has been lost and never understanding why all the bigger players and big ADVERTISERS used to read this board.

its a strategy i guess... if you can't hang with truly intelligent people, then strive to surround yourself with retards so that you can then stand tall among complete idiots and feeling satisfied that you have become the new genius'. while you three amigos (jace, joe, rhetorical) are sitting here alone, patting yourselve's on your back... consider once and a while why you are sitting here alone in the darkness, stop to ask yourselves once in a while why no one is advertising and why fewer and fewer are reading this board.

its amazing. a few fucking idiots triumphantly standing together together claiming some sort of victory. never once realizing or accepting that others simply got tired of engaging in a battle of wits with unarmed surfmasters.

so move on then and finsd a place for yourself to go.

Advertising is better than it was at anytime in the prior admiistration, and we are not people to let morons without a clue ( even though they act like they have one ) some did at some point but the scam days are over .

The RAEL big players were gone when Serge anfd Mike still had it ( they all left to go to bradshaws board) and the only people left were fellow scammers of a day gone by, or wannabes like you claiming to be better than everyone else.

why come and be negative, ????

again it is really very simple, if you do not like it leave ...

you are not even in the adult business, so why do you come here ? what is your motivation ? do you think you really matter opinion wise ?

[JR]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

why come and be negative, ????

and you are just spreading the sunshine day in and day out.

you are the anti serge... except less intelligent, slightly better grammar and you resemble a manatee. if you want a constructive environment to discuss business and learn... why do you start threads like this and spend your time here pissing in them, you stupid fucking twit?

shut your mouth and move on and be the person you claim to be... or be man enough to admit that you are no different than anyone else, have nothing more to offer than anyone else and don't care to learn anything or discuss business anymore than anyone else.

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by JR

and you are just spreading the sunshine day in and day out.

you are the anti serge... except less intelligent, slightly better grammar and you resemble a manatee. if you want a constructive environment to discuss business and learn... why do you start threads like this and spend your time here pissing in them, you stupid fucking twit?

shut your mouth and move on and be the person you claim to be... or be man enough to admit that you are no different than anyone else, have nothing more to offer than anyone else and don't care to learn anything or discuss business anymore than anyone else.

Oh but I do. I jsut want to discuss it with people that are actually going to do business, and not talk about old days, or put down ideas of newbies, or put down content people, or harshly critise people who care abotu their customers adn are not out to try to fuck people all day, then claim they are the smart ones.

remember if you will, some of them came out OK with money ( left at the right time) others went to jail, and even more lost it all)

so who is the smart one? the rabbit or the turtle?

you have no fucking clue about me personally, or any of my buisiness involvments so why do you comment on them so much ?

[JoesHO]

yeah they are just gettign pressured to come and spout of, used is the proper term I am looking for I guess. ( or bitch )

but hey if it pays the rent for them I guess a person has to do what a person has to do.

it is hard to make money in todays world LOL

[Trev]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

yeah they are just gettign pressured to come and spout of, used is the proper term I am looking for I guess. ( or bitch )

but hey if it pays the rent for them I guess a person has to do what a person has to do.

it is hard to make money in todays world LOL

I can't help but think you're refering to me... I'm here on my own coin posting what I want to post. No one pays my bills but me.

As for it's hard to make money in today's world... that must be just you.

[Jace]

dude, do you really think thay I sit all day on oprano waiting for posts?

I post actively on 7 boards, oprano is just in a list of boards that I hit from my bookmarks when I get bored

I never take much seriously on the boards anymore, they are all but useless these days...I enjoy the chatting and banter that the boards bring me on a daily basis, that is IT....I am not here to learn or teach, I am not here to sell myself or be bought...I am here for the entertainment when I am not busy working

some of you all think you have everyone figured out, when you really have no clue

I love Gonzo, he is a dear friend and I will do everything to support him, but Oprano is just like the 7 other boards I have bookmarked, a place to stop, type and move on

[JR]

Originally Posted by Jace

I enjoy the chatting and banter that the boards bring me on a daily basis, that is IT....I am not here to learn or teach, I am not here to sell myself or be bought...I am here for the entertainment when I am not busy working

holy jesus fucking christ. really? you are now quoting my sentiments about message boards verbatim?

but ... but... but... i thought you were here to learn. thats what you said sooooooo many times. now you are quoting me. you said you wanted to learn. you wanted a positive, constructive environment yada yada yada... now you're here for "entertainment".

thanks for proving my point for me AGAIN. you, joe, rhetorical and the others are EXACTLY those people you claim you don't want here. the only difference is that you don't have to fear the fact that you guys are constantly saying mind numbingly stupid shit anymore... and no one will call you on it.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by JR

holy jesus fucking christ. really? you are now quoting my sentiments about message boards verbatim?

but ... but... but... i thought you were here to learn. thats what you said sooooooo many times. now you are quoting me. you said you wanted to learn. you wanted a positive, constructive environment yada yada yada... now you're here for "entertainment".

thanks for proving my point for me AGAIN. you, joe, rhetorical and the others are EXACTLY those people you claim you don't want here. the only difference is that you don't have to fear the fact that you guys are constantly saying mind numbingly stupid shit anymore... and no one will call you on it.

isn't it possible to be somewhere for one reason and learn in the process?

sorry if I don't get all my thoughts out at the same time for you to dissect, if you would like me to write a big long dramtic post about how I feel about the boards I will, but I really don't feel like it