Here’s A Hosting Provider You’ll Probably Want To Avoid

buzzsaw · 05-06-2008

Websites go down every day (see, for example, Twitter), but this is the first time I’ve heard that reason for an outage was due to the fact that servers were stolen from a data center.That’s exactly what appears to have happened, though, to PeterGabriel.com. His site is down (along with nine related sites) and shows [...]

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mmemmer · 05-06-2008

Well it certainly isn't funny for the companies affected by it but this is not the first time it has happened. You may be able to do a search a few years back for a company by the name of LikeWhoa, they had a disgruntled employee leave with a few key peices of equipment in the middle of the night (name servers, etc).

Rumor had it at the time that the employee wanted compensation for wages he was due. The wriiting had been on the wall for a long time and it wasn't long after that before they closed there doors. Bad as it was at the time for their dedicated clients, there colo customers really got the shaft.

Back to the old saying though, you get what you pay for. Beware the hosts that promise the world for FREE, hosting and especially good hosting, cost money to maintain and deliver. Beware the hosts that promise great deals if you pay cash up front. Sadly they were not the first and won't be the last. Hosting represents the cornerstone of your online presence and for the little bits that you can save by choosing a "budget host", it can cost you so much in the end.

gonzo · 05-06-2008

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Originally Posted by mmemmer

Well it certainly isn't funny for the companies affected by it but this is not the first time it has happened. You may be able to do a search a few years back for a company by the name of LikeWhoa, they had a disgruntled employee leave with a few key peices of equipment in the middle of the night (name servers, etc).

Rumor had it at the time that the employee wanted compensation for wages he was due. The wriiting had been on the wall for a long time and it wasn't long after that before they closed there doors. Bad as it was at the time for their dedicated clients, there colo customers really got the shaft.

Back to the old saying though, you get what you pay for. Beware the hosts that promise the world for FREE, hosting and especially good hosting, cost money to maintain and deliver. Beware the hosts that promise great deals if you pay cash up front. Sadly they were not the first and won't be the last. Hosting represents the cornerstone of your online presence and for the little bits that you can save by choosing a "budget host", it can cost you so much in the end.

There are so many rumors about that particuliar host including some questionable investment that if you knew them it would make your head spin.

The search function here can provide anyone that wants it a good history on the Like Whoa saga.

DannyCox · 05-06-2008

I forgot all about that! The employee who walked off with little things like the network routers in the middle of the night was an old part-time employee of mine. He was actually quite useless, but his wife was doing support work for me and helped out Carol quite a bit when she was pregnant 11 years ago, that I used to throw him some part-time work. He got his job at LikeWhoa by saying he used to be my Network Admin (and they never checked with me)

ppixel01 · 05-07-2008

That is why we host our own site ourselves. so when ever it is down or got problem you have nothing to worry about.

gonzo · 05-07-2008

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Originally Posted by ppixel01

That is why we host our own site ourselves. so when ever it is down or got problem you have nothing to worry about.

Sure you do. What happens if your upstream connection goes off line?

sarettah · 05-07-2008

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Sure you do. What happens if your upstream connection goes off line?

You dial up to another one?

gonzo · 05-07-2008

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Originally Posted by sarettah

You dial up to another one?

We used to call that a one line BBS.
One person at a time!

sarettah · 05-07-2008

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Originally Posted by gonzo

We used to call that a one line BBS.
One person at a time!

lolol. We used to have the dungeon limited to one hour a day.

Renegade rocked !

gonzo · 05-07-2008

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Originally Posted by sarettah

lolol. We used to have the dungeon limited to one hour a day.

Renegade rocked !

Cott Lang is still a homo.

Toby · 05-07-2008

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Originally Posted by gonzo

We used to call that a one line BBS.
One person at a time!

Ahhh, we're waxing nostalgic this morning.

Dial-in
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The good ol' days

gonzo · 05-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Toby

Ahhh, we're waxing nostalgic this morning.

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The good ol' days

Robomail and EzReader!

Its called googlereader now and RSS.

DannyCox · 05-07-2008

We ran our own hosting for years, and back in the day, made a nice little profit hosting for others. At one time, we were the largest bandwidth users in Montreal, even larger than the ISPs with thier dial-up only

But with the reduction in bandwidth pricing, it wasn't really worth hosting anymore. We finally shut down all our own servers and moved over to Brad at Mojohost. That move saved me a lot of headache, overhead, and the salaries of my two Network Guys.

It was the right decision years ago, but I prefer what we do now for these times.

DannyCox · 05-07-2008

I also see the ppixel01 is hosting his sites in the Philippines. Not a good choice to serve a worldwide market.

raymor · 05-08-2008

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by ppixel01

That is why we host our own site ourselves. so when ever it is down or got problem you have nothing to worry about.

Sure you do. What happens if your upstream connection goes off line?

Or how about if someone comes in and takes your stuff while you're at lunch?
For most webmasters, they have a copy of their site in their office and a copy
on their server. Since their are two copies they still have one should one get
stolen. Hosting it out of your office it sounds like someone could come in and
take everything - you wouldn't even have a copy left. So I'd say you have MORE
to worry about, rather than nothing to worry about.

That said, we have dual high speed connections here in our office, so we have a
development server here that we use for experimenting, not doing anything critical,
and also one running a VOIP service for a local non-profit - again, not a critical service,
as it fails over nicely if the server disappears. We also have someone here virtually
24/7, four very obvious security cameras out front, and alarm system loud enough to
cause permanent hearing damage if you don't get out within two minutes.

EmporerEJ · 05-09-2008

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Originally Posted by Toby

Ahhh, we're waxing nostalgic this morning.

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The good ol' days

Renegade/speakeasy network forever!

EmporerEJ · 05-09-2008

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Originally Posted by sarettah

You dial up to another one?

Hey, I ran one of these...I actually had two phone lines, SLMail, and our very own site in 1997.

Then, we basically turned into an email relay, and it wrecked our bandwidth.

boobbucks · 05-09-2008

Thanks for the info!

DannyCox · 05-09-2008

When we first started back in April 1994, we ran Carol's site off of a Microsoft box with IIS and a 256K ISDN line. We funneled that bandwidth off of a BBS we helped run back in the day. We were set for 72 concurrent connections, and when the page loaded with "Maximum Number Of Connections - Please Try Again Later" more than 50% of the time, we knew it was time to upgrade

05-06-2008	#1
buzzsaw Buzzsaw ROCKS!!! Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: With Keith Roth Posts: 7,497	Here’s A Hosting Provider You’ll Probably Want To Avoid Websites go down every day (see, for example, Twitter), but this is the first time I’ve heard that reason for an outage was due to the fact that servers were stolen from a data center.That’s exactly what appears to have happened, though, to PeterGabriel.com. His site is down (along with nine related sites) and shows [...] More... __________________ A slave to the game I remain . . .

05-06-2008	#2
mmemmer Members Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 140	Re: Here’s A Hosting Provider You’ll Probably Want To Avoid Well it certainly isn't funny for the companies affected by it but this is not the first time it has happened. You may be able to do a search a few years back for a company by the name of LikeWhoa, they had a disgruntled employee leave with a few key peices of equipment in the middle of the night (name servers, etc). Rumor had it at the time that the employee wanted compensation for wages he was due. The wriiting had been on the wall for a long time and it wasn't long after that before they closed there doors. Bad as it was at the time for their dedicated clients, there colo customers really got the shaft. Back to the old saying though, you get what you pay for. Beware the hosts that promise the world for FREE, hosting and especially good hosting, cost money to maintain and deliver. Beware the hosts that promise great deals if you pay cash up front. Sadly they were not the first and won't be the last. Hosting represents the cornerstone of your online presence and for the little bits that you can save by choosing a "budget host", it can cost you so much in the end. __________________ Mark M., 727-433-0745 MMemmer@CaroHosting.com Support is everything! ICQ# 40467849, AIM MMemmer333

05-06-2008	#4
DannyCox I like cheese Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal, QC, CA Posts: 1,185	Re: Here’s A Hosting Provider You’ll Probably Want To Avoid I forgot all about that! The employee who walked off with little things like the network routers in the middle of the night was an old part-time employee of mine. He was actually quite useless, but his wife was doing support work for me and helped out Carol quite a bit when she was pregnant 11 years ago, that I used to throw him some part-time work. He got his job at LikeWhoa by saying he used to be my Network Admin (and they never checked with me) __________________ iAmateurs Network Amateur Niche Affiliate Programs

05-07-2008	#5
ppixel01 Still Waiting Tables... Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9	Re: Here’s A Hosting Provider You’ll Probably Want To Avoid That is why we host our own site ourselves. so when ever it is down or got problem you have nothing to worry about. __________________ KICK ASS WEB DESIGN AND SCRIPTING email: ppixel01@gmail.com icq: 415721476

05-07-2008	#13
DannyCox I like cheese Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal, QC, CA Posts: 1,185	Re: Here’s A Hosting Provider You’ll Probably Want To Avoid We ran our own hosting for years, and back in the day, made a nice little profit hosting for others. At one time, we were the largest bandwidth users in Montreal, even larger than the ISPs with thier dial-up only But with the reduction in bandwidth pricing, it wasn't really worth hosting anymore. We finally shut down all our own servers and moved over to Brad at Mojohost. That move saved me a lot of headache, overhead, and the salaries of my two Network Guys. It was the right decision years ago, but I prefer what we do now for these times. __________________ iAmateurs Network Amateur Niche Affiliate Programs

05-09-2008	#18
boobbucks Thinks Lars is a TOP NOTCH GUY Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 36	Re: Here’s A Hosting Provider You’ll Probably Want To Avoid Thanks for the info!