How to get the point across to you LM.....

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Jace

apparently that is what serge has nicknamed his whinetalk internet forum

Oh, ok, I didn't know anything about that.

I just went over to look and when I click on the internet forum it shows zero messages, so I wouldn't guess that Mike is doing much talking in there.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Oh, ok, I didn't know anything about that.

I just went over to look and when I click on the internet forum it shows zero messages, so I wouldn't guess that Mike is doing much talking in there.

it is a hidden forum, you have to be invited

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Jace

it is a hidden forum, you have to be invited

So, you think you could wrangle me an invite? I mean, what are the requirements and what do you guys talk about ?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Jace

it is a hidden forum, you have to be invited

Use a skeleton key.

[helix]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Use a skeleton key.

Or the secret handshake.

[sarettah]

So, how come everyone knows about this cept me? I meazn I wasn't gone that long.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by sarettah

So, how come everyone knows about this cept me? I meazn I wasn't gone that long.

haha, i have not been invited, and I don't expect to be

there are people that post in there that I also am friends with, they keep me updated

[LadyMischief]

I have an acct over there I just need to find my password, and that email address is no longer working lol.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Use a skeleton key.

I hear you can peek under the blinds...

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Use a skeleton key.

Or steal passwords from your own users.

And Jace, you need better intel. Michael's not saying anything anywhere else he hasn't posted on GFY and JBM.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Or steal passwords from your own users.

And Jace, you need better intel. Michael's not saying anything anywhere else he hasn't posted on GFY and JBM.

Would you mind cutting and pasting exactly what Mike is saying elsewhere, because he is not saying it here and no one is quoting him. Those boards are such a pain in the ass to sort through. I am sure you will have some quotable quotes.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Or steal passwords from your own users.

.

When you figure out how to do that in a VB database you are a better person than I am.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by gonzo

When you figure out how to do that in a VB database you are a better person than I am.

Maybe a better person than you, but not a better person than Hellpuppy. Or perhaps he hacked in Serge's site for you. Either way, you nosed yourself into somewhere you knew you weren't wanted without permission of the users. I've written some things there recently with the knowledge you have access. I hope you take them to heart.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Maybe a better person than you, but not a better person than Hellpuppy. Or perhaps he hacked in Serge's site for you. Either way, you nosed yourself into somewhere you knew you weren't wanted without permission of the users. I've written some things there recently with the knowledge you have access. I hope you take them to heart.

Youd think youd learn by now. Once again you jump to a conclusion without know what your talking about yet again. Read the Georgia Computer law do you thnk either of us would risk the consequences of hacking into a site?

Ill let Hellpuppy address the rest.

You assume way too much.

And speaking of an inflamatory post with out knowing what your talking about...

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Maybe a better person than you, but not a better person than Hellpuppy. Or perhaps he hacked in Serge's site for you. Either way, you nosed yourself into somewhere you knew you weren't wanted without permission of the users. I've written some things there recently with the knowledge you have access. I hope you take them to heart.

I do so enjoy coming in from a nice holiday outing to find that someone who claims to want to be a friend has tried to toss me under a bus.

Or I guess this post is supposed to be ok, since you apparently edited one later that would've likely been much worse.

Thanks, I appreciate that.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Oh, ok, I didn't know anything about that.

I just went over to look and when I click on the internet forum it shows zero messages, so I wouldn't guess that Mike is doing much talking in there.

Threads: 3,578, Posts: 29,443, Members: 226

now check out
http://winetalk.com/forum/index.php?

add up the totals on there

the difference is the Mayflower

[softball]

Originally Posted by Jace

Threads: 3,578, Posts: 29,443, Members: 226

now check out
http://winetalk.com/forum/index.php?

add up the totals on there

the difference is the Mayflower

Skull and Bones Masons Knights Templar

[sarettah]

Hmmm. Are we at the tin foil stage over what Serge is doing yet?

I would have thought that the message difference was messages that had been marked deleted (not actually deleted, but flagged for deletion in the database by the script) That is what is usually the case on the boards I have done database work for. It all depends on whether the database is set to delete immediately or keep them marked for recall if rollback is turned on.

[softball]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Hmmm. Are we at the tin foil stage over what Serge is doing yet?

I would have thought that the message difference was messages that had been marked deleted (not actually deleted, but flagged for deletion in the database by the script) That is what is usually the case on the boards I have done database work for. It all depends on whether the database is set to delete immediately or keep them marked for recall if rollback is turned on.

LOL.....what do you think?

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

LOL.....what do you think?

About?

[softball]

Sarettah, have you just whizzed over the FSC opinion? It seems to contradict your posting and interpretation of the law. I would be interested in your thoughts.
Fuck the mayflower thing. It is irrelevant to this thread. I am not interested. I just made a joke, ok?

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Skull and Bones Masons Knights Templar

hey hey now... lets leave the Masonic Lodge out of this ok


spaz

[spazlabz]

For once I think my opinion on a subject is very important.

If you check out the sites for Royal Cash all but one is in the Teen Niche. We refer to them as 'True Teen niche' because the girls look like teens and not strippers in schoolgirl uniforms.

As a company we are also aware that for some reason people might yell and scream and talk all sorts of craziness about the content we have. It is all legal, 2257 compliant and we have been very public about the fact that we will indeed give out redacted IDs to US based webmasters who choose to host our content for promotional purposes.

My opinion is that Directnic fucked up... But once that fuck up became such a huge public issue, they felt they had to stand behind it.

as for someone looking at these images and feeling they should have been taken down immediately...

tough shit for you, sorry your sensitive to images, but your sensitivity does not make the image illegal.

I also write reviews on the side. I have seen sites that offended me very deeply, ones where girls are choked to tears, have their faces spit in, slapped and called names and a host of other foul expressions of sexuality (in my opinion foul) and I detested those sites. That doesn't mean that they should be removed. I have no idea if treating your models like that is illegal or not. I imagine there was a release and full disclosure to the models prior to the shoot I just know I found it very difficult to watch girls having penises shoved down their throats until they vomitted.

We have two issues here;
Legal Ones (directnic should have done what they were supposed to)
Moral Ones (directnic should have left this the fuck alone)

I dont wish any ill will towards Mike AI or any of his companies really but in this case the owner of those sites should sue the fuck out of him and I would keep my fingers crossed that they would win.


spaz

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

For once I think my opinion on a subject is very important.

If you check out the sites for Royal Cash all but one is in the Teen Niche. We refer to them as 'True Teen niche' because the girls look like teens and not strippers in schoolgirl uniforms.

As a company we are also aware that for some reason people might yell and scream and talk all sorts of craziness about the content we have. It is all legal, 2257 compliant and we have been very public about the fact that we will indeed give out redacted IDs to US based webmasters who choose to host our content for promotional purposes.

My opinion is that Directnic fucked up... But once that fuck up became such a huge public issue, they felt they had to stand behind it.

as for someone looking at these images and feeling they should have been taken down immediately...

tough shit for you, sorry your sensitive to images, but your sensitivity does not make the image illegal.

I also write reviews on the side. I have seen sites that offended me very deeply, ones where girls are choked to tears, have their faces spit in, slapped and called names and a host of other foul expressions of sexuality (in my opinion foul) and I detested those sites. That doesn't mean that they should be removed. I have no idea if treating your models like that is illegal or not. I imagine there was a release and full disclosure to the models prior to the shoot I just know I found it very difficult to watch girls having penises shoved down their throats until they vomitted.

We have two issues here;
Legal Ones (directnic should have done what they were supposed to)
Moral Ones (directnic should have left this the fuck alone)

I dont wish any ill will towards Mike AI or any of his companies really but in this case the owner of those sites should sue the fuck out of him and I would keep my fingers crossed that they would win.


spaz

Awesome post.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

We have two issues here;
Legal Ones (directnic should have done what they were supposed to)
Moral Ones (directnic should have left this the fuck alone)

I dont wish any ill will towards Mike AI or any of his companies really but in this case the owner of those sites should sue the fuck out of him and I would keep my fingers crossed that they would win.


spaz

From all accounts, several of these girls looked WAY below 18 - and not just "looked". DirectNic did exactly what they had the rights to do per thier TOS. Yes, they could have turned him directly over to the police and Slick would be coming up with bail and more than likely be a registered sex offender once everything came out in the wash. But instead they locked the domains (so if he WAS a CP trafficker, he couldn't move them and disappear) and contacted him and gave him time to clear his name.

SLICK took this to the boards, not DirectNic. Slick then gave 100's of webmasters the opportunity to point out that many of his thumbs/trades looked VERY, VERY underage. Now all that's going to be there, in writing, forever. Had he dealt with DirectNic directly, no one would have known anything.

From what I've read, Google has removed at least one of his sites. Now, are you going to boycott Google too? Did they overreach their bounds?

I've seen time and time again where it's state specific if you "own" the domain or not. Since DirectNic is loaded with lawyers and probably has more contact with legal jurisdictions that any of us will EVER have contact with, I'm going make a wild ass assumption that they were within their legal right to take down the sites in question.

If not, Slick can sue them - simple as that.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by Peaches

From all accounts, several of these girls looked WAY below 18 - and not just "looked". DirectNic did exactly what they had the rights to do per thier TOS. Yes, they could have turned him directly over to the police and Slick would be coming up with bail and more than likely be a registered sex offender once everything came out in the wash. But instead they locked the domains (so if he WAS a CP trafficker, he couldn't move them and disappear) and contacted him and gave him time to clear his name.

SLICK took this to the boards, not DirectNic. Slick then gave 100's of webmasters the opportunity to point out that many of his thumbs/trades looked VERY, VERY underage. Now all that's going to be there, in writing, forever. Had he dealt with DirectNic directly, no one would have known anything.

From what I've read, Google has removed at least one of his sites. Now, are you going to boycott Google too? Did they overreach their bounds?

I've seen time and time again where it's state specific if you "own" the domain or not. Since DirectNic is loaded with lawyers and probably has more contact with legal jurisdictions that any of us will EVER have contact with, I'm going make a wild ass assumption that they were within their legal right to take down the sites in question.

If not, Slick can sue them - simple as that.

So you have difinitive proof that he had CP on his site? I don't think even DirectNIC has PROVEN that, if they ever do.