If you were the feds

sarettah · 12-15-2006

and were going after certain websites and certain hosts for those websites and you wanted the sites down who would you go to?

gonzo · 12-15-2006

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Originally Posted by sarettah

and were going after certain websites and certain hosts for those websites and you wanted the sites down who would you go to?

www.betterwhois.com

sarettah · 12-15-2006

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Originally Posted by gonzo

www.betterwhois.com

That tells them who to shut down. Let's assume they already know that. They want to do it without alerting the host as to what is going on.

Who do they go to?

gonzo · 12-15-2006

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Originally Posted by sarettah

That tells them who to shut down. Let's assume they already know that. They want to do it without alerting the host as to what is going on.

Who do they go to?

You can have a hosts entire upstream cut off for a lot less.

sarettah · 12-15-2006

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You can have a hosts entire upstream cut off for a lot less.

Don't want the host to be alerted to it. Cutting off the upstream would probably alert the host quite loudly.

gonzo · 12-15-2006

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Don't want the host to be alerted to it. Cutting off the upstream would probably alert the host quite loudly.

Always did us! hahaha

Toby · 12-15-2006

If that were the case then DirectNic would not have given Slick a deadline prior to shut down. The shit storm this created on the boards most certainly notified the host.

If the Feds wanted the sites down they show up at the host unannounced, with a warrant, and sites are shut down. The Feds have no need to be subtle.

sarettah · 12-15-2006

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Originally Posted by Toby

If that were the case then DirectNic would not have given Slick a deadline prior to shut down. The shit storm this created on the boards most certainly notified the host.

If the Feds wanted the sites down they show up at the host unannounced, with a warrant, and sites are shut down. The Feds have no need to be subtle.

In an ongoing investigation they have every reason to be subtle.

gonzo · 12-15-2006

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In an ongoing investigation they have every reason to be subtle.

I hear big kiddie porn investigation rumblings too.

And dont forget we are coming up on elections. Time to distract people from the issues and get some votes!

Toby · 12-15-2006

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In an ongoing investigation they have every reason to be subtle.

A huge shit storm on all the adult webmaster boards, yeah right, real subtle.

Peaches · 12-15-2006

In true CP investigations, they do keep things quiet and even more disturbing, keep the investigations going on for quite some time. It seems you're always hearing "After a 2 year investigation.....". My thoughts are always "And how many kids got abused in those 2 years? Did you REALLY need all that time?". I guess they do, but it still pisses me off and makes me sad

sarettah · 12-15-2006

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Originally Posted by Toby

A huge shit storm on all the adult webmaster boards, yeah right, real subtle.

That was caused by Slick. Myself, I get an email like that only me and my closest advisors are going to know about it, kind of like if you got a sumons from the city for too much dog shit in your yard. I would be embarassed to have it come out that I was being looked at by anyone as possible cp and further I would not go and show my ignorance by saying I didn't think it looked like cp and I didn't have enough time/energy to run my business properly.

Hammer · 12-15-2006

Yeah, DirectNic posted on the boards to let everyone know what they were doing and to stir up a shit storm.

Jace · 12-15-2006

when you are to the point of a site needing to be shut down, the whole days of being subtle are past

if you are a fed, and you are to the point of the site coming down, you are ready for the shit storm and you show up at the host and direct the host to pull the plug

softball · 12-15-2006

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Originally Posted by sarettah

That was caused by Slick. Myself, I get an email like that only me and my closest advisors are going to know about it, kind of like if you got a sumons from the city for too much dog shit in your yard. I would be embarassed to have it come out that I was being looked at by anyone as possible cp and further I would not go and show my ignorance by saying I didn't think it looked like cp and I didn't have enough time/energy to run my business properly.

What exactly is the point of this ramble?

sarettah · 12-15-2006

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What exactly is the point of this ramble?

Maybe I should repeat it in small words for you?

softball · 12-15-2006

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Maybe I should repeat it in small words for you?

If you thought those were big words, than you need some learnin' bud. (shrug)

sarettah · 12-15-2006

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If you thought those were big words, than you need some learnin' bud. (shrug)

Well, they obviously were too big for you.

Btw, did you ride the big bus or the little bus to school?

softball · 12-15-2006

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Well, they obviously were too big for you.

Btw, did you ride the big bus or the little bus to school?

Obviously?....I think not. Your pissing is getting pedestrian and childish. Poof.

Hell Puppy · 12-16-2006

Shutting them down is easy, the feds can do that a number of ways. But that's not typically how they run a child porn investigation.

What they really want is:

1) The source of the content. Who shot it, where, who are those kids in the pics, etc. This is always priority one.

2) Who is behind it all? "follow the money"

3) Who are the buyers? They like to collect these lists because each one is a potential predator. They may not go after every one who buys a membership, probably wont, but you can bet they catalog the data and list them as people with known interests in KP.

Basically I think it would be a real stretch to think this is what's going on with Directnic right now. Doesn't really add up for me.

Peaches · 12-16-2006

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Basically I think it would be a real stretch to think this is what's going on with Directnic right now. Doesn't really add up for me.

It could be something crazy like: they were following their own TOS.

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Hell Puppy Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,523	Re: If you were the feds Shutting them down is easy, the feds can do that a number of ways. But that's not typically how they run a child porn investigation. What they really want is: 1) The source of the content. Who shot it, where, who are those kids in the pics, etc. This is always priority one. 2) Who is behind it all? "follow the money" 3) Who are the buyers? They like to collect these lists because each one is a potential predator. They may not go after every one who buys a membership, probably wont, but you can bet they catalog the data and list them as people with known interests in KP. Basically I think it would be a real stretch to think this is what's going on with Directnic right now. Doesn't really add up for me.