PornoTube - The Price of Porn Will Fall

gonzo · 09-05-2006

Mainstreamers rationalize pornotube. They seem to understand it a little more than some in our industry... interesting perspective to discuss.

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You’re starting to see the development of user-created pornography. PornoTube does just that (think YouTube, except just for porn).
What does this mean for the internet pornography industry? Very bad news. For consumers? Very good news.
Right now the porn industry isn’t terribly difficult to enter, but still has some barriers. For starters:

You need some money (probably $1000 - $2000, if that)
You need an audience.
You need a website.
You need a way to make money.
You need a way to collect money.
You need equipment (a computer, webcam, digi-cam, internet connection, dildos, etc…).
You must be sexually attractive.

PornoTube reduces barriers #1 and #2. You still need to buy a PC/DigiCam/Dildo, but you don’t need to buy a website. You also get an interested audience and don’t have to advertise for one.
Barrier #3 goes away completely.

#4 and #5 are not addressed by PornoTube yet, but given current trends with “Social” sites sharing revenues with contributors, they will be soon. Of course, this assumes PornoTube can find a valid business model (that shouldn’t be as difficult as YouTube’s search for a revenue model, because history shows that consumers are willing to pay for porn, rather than for 30 second snippits that belong on America’s Home Video).
#6 and #7 remain. You’ve got to have a PC, and you’ve got to be hot*. There are millions of people who have both.
*hot is a relative term, and varies from person-to-person and culture-to-culture

My Prediction: The Price of Porn Will Fall
By reducing entrance costs, sites like PornoTube will allow for more people to contribute. Supply of content will increase. Assuming demand remains constant (you can only masturbate so many times per day), prices will go down. Established sites that have high margins, and cannot distinguish themselves clearly from content appearing on PornoTube will become commoditized. Their margins will fall. Consumers will benefit due to an increase in supply and decrease in price.
How should internet pornographers respond? They should either differentiate their content relative to that of low-margin content, and/or strike exclusive deals with celebrity porn stars that can drive traffic.

Note...dont click on this source site unless you want Dave to install some spyware on your machine. Apparently hes chosen to take the short cut way for making money in this business.
http://www.dave-gallagher.net

Jace · 09-05-2006

I seriously think the next trend in porn is "on demand"

even paysites, the members area will be open to the public, you chose which scenes you want to see, and pay for just those scenes

same with solo girl sites, you create an account to your favorite solo girl's site....and any time you want to do something you get charged
wanna see her latest cam show? pay $3.99 for access
wanna see her latest video? $2.99
Wanna see that latest picture gallery? $3.50

everything on demand and you only see what you ask and pay for, but the entire members area is open for full view

Hammer · 09-05-2006

So, let me get this straight. Pornotube causing the price of porn to fall and increasing competition is a good thing for us?

Jace · 09-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Hammer

So, let me get this straight. Pornotube causing the price of porn to fall and increasing competition is a good thing for us?

where did you read that?

Hell Puppy · 09-06-2006

Whether pornotube is good or bad, whether it's a catalyst or not... The whole price and economic structure of our business is fucked. And it may ultimately be doomed as it gets tougher and tougher to process a recurring adult sale.

We overcharge so we can overpay affiliates. Then we pray that the user forgets to cancel for as long as possible.

Biggy · 09-06-2006

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Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

The whole price and economic structure of our business is fucked.

Everyone, get out now.

Hammer · 09-06-2006

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Originally Posted by Jace

where did you read that?

I was being sarcastic. The author of the article states that he thinks the price of porn will fall and that's a bad thing for webmasters. Gonzo and AEBN want us to believe that Pornotube is good for webmasters.

gonzo · 09-06-2006

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Originally Posted by Hammer

I was being sarcastic. The author of the article states that he thinks the price of porn will fall and that's a bad thing for webmasters. Gonzo and AEBN want us to believe that Pornotube is good for webmasters.

Its been good for me!

Hammer · 09-06-2006

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Its been good for me!

Yeah, but it hasn't caused the price of porn to fall yet. So, is your plan to make as much as you can before it kills business for everyone and then bail?

gonzo · 09-06-2006

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Originally Posted by Hammer

Yeah, but it hasn't caused the price of porn to fall yet. So, is your plan to make as much as you can before it kills business for everyone and then bail?

Im hoping to be totally out before the end of the year!

Hammer · 09-06-2006

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Im hoping to be totally out before the end of the year!

You gonna sell Oprano back to Serge?

tony404 · 09-06-2006

if 2257 goes thru with secondary producers, you can say goodbye to a bulk for free porn coming out of the us. Also if you produce tired garbage you will fail, if you dont you will succeed. Ive heard the price is going to drop song for so long,remember when they were doing 10 dollar sites , oh its going to change everything and it didnt. free porn is nothing new, I could jack off forever online and never take out a credit card.lolGonzo your not going any where lol

Jace · 09-06-2006

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Originally Posted by Hammer

I was being sarcastic. The author of the article states that he thinks the price of porn will fall and that's a bad thing for webmasters. Gonzo and AEBN want us to believe that Pornotube is good for webmasters.

ah, gotcha

pornotube isn't a bad thing really. anyone can upload 15 second clips, throw a url on the clips, and get thousands of free targetted hits within hours....how is that a bad thing?

while not everyone has the privledge of placing urls on the clips quite yet, once that happens pornotube will be a benefit for site owners and affiliates alike...but right now, I do agree, it is not a good thing for affiliates....but as a site owner, having a site that allows me to upload videos and have them viewed over a thousand times within a few hours is an incredible thing

gonzo · 09-06-2006

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Originally Posted by Hammer

You gonna sell Oprano back to Serge?

You busted me. Caught me with no one reading or posting here and we arent making any money. I should have listened when they told me Id fail.

09-06-2006	#12
tony404 Members Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 926	Re: PornoTube - The Price of Porn Will Fall if 2257 goes thru with secondary producers, you can say goodbye to a bulk for free porn coming out of the us. Also if you produce tired garbage you will fail, if you dont you will succeed. Ive heard the price is going to drop song for so long,remember when they were doing 10 dollar sites , oh its going to change everything and it didnt. free porn is nothing new, I could jack off forever online and never take out a credit card.lolGonzo your not going any where lol

09-05-2006	#1
gonzo Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga. Posts: 17,795 Blog Entries: 11	PornoTube - The Price of Porn Will Fall Mainstreamers rationalize pornotube. They seem to understand it a little more than some in our industry... interesting perspective to discuss. ---------------------------------------------------------- You’re starting to see the development of user-created pornography. PornoTube does just that (think YouTube, except just for porn). What does this mean for the internet pornography industry? Very bad news. For consumers? Very good news. Right now the porn industry isn’t terribly difficult to enter, but still has some barriers. For starters: You need some money (probably $1000 - $2000, if that) You need an audience. You need a website. You need a way to make money. You need a way to collect money. You need equipment (a computer, webcam, digi-cam, internet connection, dildos, etc…). You must be sexually attractive. PornoTube reduces barriers #1 and #2. You still need to buy a PC/DigiCam/Dildo, but you don’t need to buy a website. You also get an interested audience and don’t have to advertise for one. Barrier #3 goes away completely. #4 and #5 are not addressed by PornoTube yet, but given current trends with “Social” sites sharing revenues with contributors, they will be soon. Of course, this assumes PornoTube can find a valid business model (that shouldn’t be as difficult as YouTube’s search for a revenue model, because history shows that consumers are willing to pay for porn, rather than for 30 second snippits that belong on America’s Home Video). #6 and #7 remain. You’ve got to have a PC, and you’ve got to be hot. There are millions of people who have both. hot is a relative term, and varies from person-to-person and culture-to-culture My Prediction: The Price of Porn Will Fall By reducing entrance costs, sites like PornoTube will allow for more people to contribute. Supply of content will increase. Assuming demand remains constant (you can only masturbate so many times per day), prices will go down. Established sites that have high margins, and cannot distinguish themselves clearly from content appearing on PornoTube will become commoditized. Their margins will fall. Consumers will benefit due to an increase in supply and decrease in price. How should internet pornographers respond? They should either differentiate their content relative to that of low-margin content, and/or strike exclusive deals with celebrity porn stars that can drive traffic. Note...dont click on this source site unless you want Dave to install some spyware on your machine. Apparently hes chosen to take the short cut way for making money in this business. http://www.dave-gallagher.net __________________ We are putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage." "Never try and be like anyone else" - Hunter S. Thompson "The truth is the truth no matter how you try and package a lie" - Shellee Hale

09-05-2006	#2
Jace .... $100 for every ImLive sign-up Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,392 Blog Entries: 1	Re: PornoTube - The Price of Porn Will Fall I seriously think the next trend in porn is "on demand" even paysites, the members area will be open to the public, you chose which scenes you want to see, and pay for just those scenes same with solo girl sites, you create an account to your favorite solo girl's site....and any time you want to do something you get charged wanna see her latest cam show? pay $3.99 for access wanna see her latest video? $2.99 Wanna see that latest picture gallery? $3.50 everything on demand and you only see what you ask and pay for, but the entire members area is open for full view

09-05-2006	#3
Hammer Master of My Domains Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 1,701	Re: PornoTube - The Price of Porn Will Fall So, let me get this straight. Pornotube causing the price of porn to fall and increasing competition is a good thing for us? __________________ Porn Site Pros - Custom Website Design, Turnkey Webcam and Pay Sites, SEO, and Consulting

09-06-2006	#5
Hell Puppy Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,523	Re: PornoTube - The Price of Porn Will Fall Whether pornotube is good or bad, whether it's a catalyst or not... The whole price and economic structure of our business is fucked. And it may ultimately be doomed as it gets tougher and tougher to process a recurring adult sale. We overcharge so we can overpay affiliates. Then we pray that the user forgets to cancel for as long as possible.