Interesting post on blog about Iraq and war on terrorism.

[Mike AI]

http://libertarianhawk.livejournal.com/12352.html

Please try to wrap your brains around this.

I think JR will be able to handle it. But the liberals of Oprano might have their delicate sensibilities warped.

[Winetalk.com]

that looks like eunichs discussing the benefits of sex life.

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

that looks like eunichs discussing the benefits of sex life.

Serge, had a hard time grasping the concepts? Where is the flaw in his thinking?

[PornoDoggy]

Balderdash and poppycock ...

[Mike AI]

Another deep thought from a liberal.

[PornoDoggy]

Life is easy when you start with a conclusion, however convoluted, and produce graphics to support it.

The Agnewian phrase "pseudointellectual" was the first thing that came to my mind when I looked at that malarky ...

[Winetalk.com]

PD, you don't get it because you have not
studied singular semialgebraic, subanalytic and complex analytic sets from a metric viewpont. Each connected set of these types can be considered as a metric space with different natural metrics. The most interesting metrics are induced (euclidian) metric and intrinsic metric. A set is called normally embedded if these two metrics are bi-Lipschitz equivalent. The main result of the talk is the following : Every closed semialgebraic set is intrinsically bi-Lipschitz equivalent to some normally embedded semialgebraic set. This result does not admit a complex analog. We present an example of a complex analytic set which is not intrinsically bi-Lipschitz equivalent to any normally embedded complex analytic set.

Do you see how simple this chart really is???

[PornoDoggy]

Like ... wow.

[Winetalk.com]

You see, MikeAI, we get it!

[Bishop]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

PD, you don't get it because you have not
studied singular semialgebraic, subanalytic and complex analytic sets from a metric viewpont. Each connected set of these types can be considered as a metric space with different natural metrics. The most interesting metrics are induced (euclidian) metric and intrinsic metric. A set is called normally embedded if these two metrics are bi-Lipschitz equivalent. The main result of the talk is the following : Every closed semialgebraic set is intrinsically bi-Lipschitz equivalent to some normally embedded semialgebraic set. This result does not admit a complex analog. We present an example of a complex analytic set which is not intrinsically bi-Lipschitz equivalent to any normally embedded complex analytic set.

Do you see how simple this chart really is???

I was going to say you took the words right out of my mouth but I can't possibly say that with a straight face. hahahahahaha..

[Winetalk.com]

Bishop,
having relatives in the right places definately helps..

http://www.math.neu.edu/GASC/GAS/birbrair.html

[Bishop]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Bishop,
having relatives in the right places definately helps..

http://www.math.neu.edu/GASC/GAS/birbrair.html

Nice.. math was never my strong point.. well it wasn't until I learned to put a $ in front of all the numbers then it made complete sense.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by Bishop

Nice.. math was never my strong point.. well it wasn't until I learned to put a $ in front of all the numbers then it made complete sense.

Stop using my lines , Ken.

You are getting worse than Steve!!

[Bishop]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Stop using my lines , Ken.

You are getting worse than Steve!!

Nope I didn't get it from you. I got it from my wife.

[Anthony]

I hate to pop up here after being told to leave by you Ken, but this is one of those times...

Krystal may have or not said it, but I know this is one of the old man's sayings.

Come on, who did we always burn for repeating other people's stories?!

Who bought a prowler?

Who do you idiolize?!

[Bishop]

Originally Posted by Anthony

I hate to pop up here after being told to leave by you Ken, but this is one of those times...

Krystal may have or not said it, but I know this is one of the old man's sayings.

Come on, who did we always burn for repeating other people's stories?!

Who bought a prowler?

Who do you idiolize?!

haha.. I've known my wife longer than you guys.

[Mike AI]

Serge thank goodness you finally engaged your brain!!

[Winetalk.com]

I have no brain, it's a well documented fact.

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

I have no brain, it's a well documented fact.

Did Lady law fuck your brains out in Japan??

[Winetalk.com]

No, not in Japan.

[JR]

i would agree with his reasoning completely. peace is only (and always has been) nothing more than the downtime between wars. as long as their are kids who get raped or don't get a puppy for christmas or whatever, there will always be those who grow up to be cunning and charismatic sociopaths/psychopaths bent on causing as much pain, death and destruction as possible. or there will always be those "have nots" (either percieved or otherwise) who will lash out as well as a natural biological and genetic function of simple protecting our own DNA in fulfilling the primary mission of any living organism.

they will always find enemys and they will always rally others to their cause and there will always be a fight. its very strange to me that people, after witnessing thousands of years of war, refuse accept that as a fact of life.




"There's some key assumptions going into this:
1. There isn't enough time to let the MidEast evolve into a democracy on its own before somebody cooks up a megadeath attack.
2. America doesn't have the willpower to maintain an empire.
3. Staying on the offensive will keep terrorists from launching a major attack against the US.
4. Islamofascism is powerful and agressive enough that we can't coexist with it.

I favor "Gunpoint Democracy" as the option that gives us the best chance of getting the best outcome, and gets us as far as possible from the worst. Given that strategy we've got to start somewhere. Iraq (for many good reasons) was it."

[PornoDoggy]

It is difficult to take seriously anyone who is capable of making the statement "Staying on the offensive will keep terrorists from launching a major attack against the US."

[JR]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

It is difficult to take seriously anyone who is capable of making the statement "Staying on the offensive will keep terrorists from launching a major attack against the US."

and yet... since we have been on the offensive, there have been none.

[Nickatilynx]

The UK were actively on the offensive but suffered an attack....

So that bit is fundamentally and proven to be flawed.

[JR]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

The UK were actively on the offensive but suffered an attack....

So that bit is fundamentally and proven to be flawed.

his statement was about the US... so you are incorrect.

besides, i don't think many will agree that there are many parallels in what the US does domestically and abroad to combat terrorism and what Britain does. Britain did not overhaul their government as the US did, did not expand the poweres of government etc etc.

how long did it take the Brits to kick captain hook out? how many people were actively preaching Jihad, recruiting and funding terrorism OPENLY in Londonistan long AFTER 9/11?

[slavdogg]

good article

this is what i've always siad
""we've got to start somewhere. Iraq (for many good reasons) was it."
the plagiarised my posts from this board

[PornoDoggy]

Originally Posted by JR

and yet... since we have been on the offensive, there have been none.

Sell that shit to the bobble-heads. That implies a cohesion/organizational structure that the enemy simply ain't got.

[JR]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

Sell that shit to the bobble-heads. That implies a cohesion/organizational structure that the enemy simply ain't got.

huh?

please explain to the class how YOU think this cohesion/organizational structure that existed pre 9/11 was all but completely demolished post 9/11. that is the point.

my right wing, bobble head, misguided brain thought it was because the US led a full frontal assualt on terrorism world wide. maybe you think it was magic elves that brought these changes about ? maybe you think some other country was taking the lead in taking action?

are you saying no terrorist attacks have been thwarted post 9/11 in the US? no cells broken up? that post 9/11 offensive tactics and a proactive stance are not working? hate to break it to you, but the fact of the matter is that no attacks have happened. thats a fact. thats not right wing propaganda to annoy liberals... its a fact.

[PornoDoggy]

I don't dispute the fact that no attacks have happened. As a result of 9/11 a lot of things happened, and a lot of the things that happened are part of the reasons that no subesquent attack has happened.

Where I think the bobbling of your head has damaged your brain is the attempt to tie the war in Iraq to the war on terror.

[JR]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

I don't dispute the fact that no attacks have happened. As a result of 9/11 a lot of things happened, and a lot of the things that happened are part of the reasons that no subesquent attack has happened.

Where I think the bobbling of your head has damaged your brain is the attempt to tie the war in Iraq to the war on terror.

oh... "a lot of things happened"...... well thanks for clearing up your position and for taking the time to make such a rock solid argument.

HAHAHA

[PornoDoggy]

Specifics? Afghanistan. Efforts on our behalf/at our behest by Pakistan, Indonesia, and a lot of other places. None of which has anything to do with Iraq, which has probably diverted resources that would have been better expended fighting the alQaidas of the world.

I have no doubt that some of the domestic efforts undertaken have also thwarted terrorism. I am admittedly skeptical about anything the Administration has attempted to claim credit for, because the press conference ballyhoos has generally turned out to be smoke and mirrors. I can only hope that a lot has gone on in the shadows, where it belongs.

I do not believe - and I'm pretty sure you know this already - that the war in Iraq has done anything to make America safer. In fact, I think the long term effects will be the opposite.

I think a whole lot of other folks agree with me, and they ain't all Cindy Sheehans. Awful lot of retired star-studded shoulders speaking out lately - and that should speak a lot louder than a million Sheehans, Moores, Striesands, et al.

[softball]

Kids, its only been five years. That is nothing. You actually think this administration is protecting the US? Tick tick tick tick. Fuck all the rhetoric. The muslims are very patient.
I also hear the crowing of a lot of armchair generals who gladly send their neighbours kids off to fight and die so they can continue to drive their Escalades. It is viet nam all over again but much more dangerous.

"Some folks inherit
star spangled eyes,
Ooh, they send you down to war.
And when you ask them,
"How much should we give?"
They only answer "More! More! More!"

[Winetalk.com]

Dude on vacation,
the private stash:

[JR]

PD... try to focus. with me, you singled out a simple remark "Staying on the offensive [against terrorism] will keep terrorists from launching a major attack against the US". nothing more. thats it. thats all. thats what you and i were talking about. it had nothing to do with whether or not ms piggy and kermit will ever do another tv special. it was about an offensive stance on "terrorism" and "major attacks" against the USA. and I will say it again... post 9/11, the USA has adopted a VERY offensive stance on terrorism and post 9/11 there have been NO successful attacks against the USA.

there is just nothing to argue there... and thats all i have been saying.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Dude on vacation,
the private stash:

I would rather see another picture of your Picasso. Blue period if I am not mistaken. I am always humbled to be in the company of rich collectors and raconteurs. I truly hope some of your good taste will wear off on me.

[softball]

"the USA has adopted a VERY offensive stance on terrorism and post 9/11 there have been NO successful attacks against the USA."

The success of this strategy clearly depends on if there has been a serious attempt contemplated. It could very well still be in the planning stages. In which case, this aggressiveness could just be a drain on resources setting the stage for the big one. You remember rope a dope don't you?

[JR]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Dude on vacation,
the private stash:

another one of sailor graham on vacation

[softball]

Originally Posted by JR

another one of sailor graham on vacation

Hey, JR. you do need a little help here. Is this what you got when the reality of the situation is made clear? Its typical of neo cons when confronted with the truth. Just keep stating your key message. Its the Karl Rove school of politics. All show and no go.

[Mike AI]

I do not think JR is a neo-con. Neo-con's think that people in the middle east can form some kind of civil, democratic society.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

I do not think JR is a neo-con. Neo-con's think that people in the middle east can form some kind of civil, democratic society.

Well, I guess you might be right. If the Israelis can't do it. There ain't much hope is there.

[pornochick]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Well, I guess you might be right. If the Israelis can't do it. There ain't much hope is there.

This is sad but true

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I would rather see another picture of your Picasso. Blue period if I am not mistaken. I am always humbled to be in the company of rich collectors and raconteurs. I truly hope some of your good taste will wear off on me.

More pics from Dude's travels:


Graham visits Lake Titicaca

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Graham's visit to Russia:

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by pornochick

This is sad but true

This is why sometimes I think women should just be seen and not heard.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

This is why sometimes I think women should just be seen and not heard.

..or eaten.

[Mike AI]

Serge, I think we may have a candidate for the thing we were just talking about in ICQ.

Remember talk S L O W L Y!

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

..or eaten.

[Winetalk.com]

hahahahahaha



O...............................K................. ........

[softball]

Serge, the Picasso. I want to see the Picasso you have in your dining room. Have you forgotten so soon?

[softball]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

This is why sometimes I think women should just be seen and not heard.

Or Floridians, obviously. Maybe its the checked pants or the white belts or being pummled by high winds that has a kind of mind "dumbing" effect.

[Winetalk.com]

Graham on vaction in Rio: