REAL SEX and nothing BUT SEX ~ Daily Dose Here

[Dianna Vesta]

Originally Posted by Bhelliom

Smartass

The second time involved a few litres of fresca, a goat, and three nuns.

Oh man you better watch that goat action Serge will hunt you down!

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Dianna Vesta

lol- I didn't read this one but I knew it! LL would never say something like that.

of course she wouldn't. For 2 reasons:
1) she is not a man the last tiem I checked
2) she never been in the porn business

[Dianna Vesta]

Serge I was thinking... you've done quite a bit of traveling in your life & I know you have a filthy perverted mind... in all your travels can't you share at least one TRUE story???

[Winetalk.com]

1) what made you beleive that ANY story I have shared weren't true?

2) I have a question of my own. I couldn't type it, I was very ashamed, so I put it in the song:
http://www.goodiebag.tv/video/do_you_take_it.htm

[Dianna Vesta]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

1) what made you beleive that ANY story I have shared weren't true?

2) I have a question of my own. I couldn't type it, I was very ashamed, so I put it in the song:
http://www.goodiebag.tv/video/do_you_take_it.htm

1: I thought about this but figured anything you would say would be entertianment

2: That's really funny! I love that! SO do you?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Dianna Vesta

2: That's really funny! I love that! SO do you?

Of course! I already scheduled my next colonoscopy!


There are 2 kinds of people in the wolrd:
those who like it and those who still don't know that they do

[Dianna Vesta]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

There are 2 kinds of people in the wolrd:
those who like it and those who still don't know that they do

I could write a book just about people who did things they didn't think they would ever do and like it. Yes, I know this to be true.

[Winetalk.com]

DV, when you visit in April,
let's discuss the book writing project. I think it might be a real hit and I am serious as a hard on.

[Dianna Vesta]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

DV, when you visit in April,
let's discuss the book writing project. I think it might be a real hit and I am serious as a hard on.

Serge I am working on a book right now…at least when I can. Its called “The Feminine Manifesto: The Art of Sexual Power”. I have been planning this for years. It’s about the innate sexual power of women. It shows case studies and even talks a bit about the sex industry.



I’m just getting my income stable so I can devote time and take at least 4 days a week to write.



I have this site called “forbiddengarden.com” I wanted to do something more then a story site but confessions. When I wrote a column in “Nugget” years ago, I received countless letters. The confessions were amazing. I plan on really loading up my own confessions on this site as well as my memoirs.


I look forward to seeing you both. Heat that pool tho. Did you ever get more privacy around your pool?

Whats LL up to these days? I never hear from her.

[Cleo]

I'm surprised that you don't have a Blog.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Dianna Vesta

Serge I am working on a book right now…at least when I can. Its called “The Feminine Manifesto: The Art of Sexual Power”. I have been planning this for years. It’s about the innate sexual power of women.

no, no,no,
I was not talking about "science fiction" book!

[Dianna Vesta]

Originally Posted by Cleo

I'm surprised that you don't have a Blog.

Fuck the blog! Beside why should I tell all my great war stories and no charge admission when there are countless souls ready to fork it over?

[Cleo]

I don't do anything for free…

It really is beyond me why anyone would want to read my boring Blog but the number of readers daily are in the thousands so it has turned into a nice traffic pump.

[Dianna Vesta]

Originally Posted by Cleo

I don't do anything for free…

It really is beyond me why anyone would want to read my boring Blog but the number of readers daily are in the thousands so it has turned into a nice traffic pump.

lol- well I know that game too and agree. Thats why I spend countless hours posting in the right forums. I'm all for good traffic but the truth is that I also know all that free shit converts really low. Don't you think?

[Dianna Vesta]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

no, no,no,
I was not talking about "science fiction" book!

fiction my ass! you know damn well it ain't fiction. I've got witnesses!

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Dianna Vesta

fiction my ass!

I love talking about your ass...something down my alley

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by Dianna Vesta

lol- well I know that game too and agree. Thats why I spend countless hours posting in the right forums. I'm all for good traffic but the truth is that I also know all that free shit converts really low. Don't you think?

I have no idea how well it converts but I do see a lot clicking through to my link list.

[Winetalk.com]

DV, as far as book is concerned,
your main goal is to write a Manifesto
(like Karl Marx before you)
my goal is to just make money and publish something which would have mass apeal.
That's all.

[Dianna Vesta]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

DV, as far as book is concerned,
your main goal is to write a Manifesto
(like Karl Marx before you)
my goal is to just make money and publish something which would have mass apeal.
That's all.

I do understand what you're saying but getting published is not as easy as one might think. I could self publish books and from my following alone make a little money but getting a book in the mainstream and with a good publishing house isn't easy. Now if you have these connections make me a serious offer and email me your ideas. I was contacted by some people a few years back.

[Winetalk.com]

I don't have many connections, but I know somebody who does:
JR

[Sin]

Originally Posted by Dianna Vesta

Pouting and baby talk will surely get a sexy femme far with nasty daddy.

I'm pretty sure that type of behavior will surely get him bitchslapped & told to grow some goddamn balls. He'd then have a fabulous view of my fabulous ass, as I walked away.

Dianne your puppy story is interesting, and ...amusing, for me. I always have commented that if I wanted a bitch, I'd buy myself a dog.

Originally Posted by Dianna Vesta

I was already giving myself orgasms before being with anyone. The first time with someone I was really disapointed.

Yes, that I can relate to!!! I'm still disappointed when I'm with someone, hence why I'm not with anyone! Hahaha..

Originally Posted by Dianna Vesta

Serge the biggest turn off for me is a smart ass. Maybe some women like to be challenged but I’m not one of them. Personally I think it takes a lot of strength to move outside of ego and arrogance and just let go. Especially for a strong man who is use to being in control all time. I have a lot of respect for this type of man. This type of man turns me on. I want a person who bite the world in the ass but crawls to ONLY me.

I find there's a high difference between a smartass who challenges you, and someone who has enough self respect that he crawls to NOBODY. A strong man who is used to being in control all the time should be able to express his devotion to a woman, in ways other than turning into a ball-less simpering idiot who does as 'commanded' regardless of how degrading the requested action/behavior may be. Once he's tossed aside all self respect in a quest to 'respect' me, that "respect" he shows me, is IMO valueless.

I want a man who knows how to bite the world in the ass (when it deserves it) but who also will give in to my requests, while holding onto a degree of self respect that prevents him from crossing any lines he would personally/individually feel are unnecessary to cross. I don't hold an ounce of respect for others who don't respect me, and by asking me to cross personal boundaries, they are most definitely disrespecting me. ...Then again, I have been told I'm a 'natural Alpha' to the degree that it comes out in ALL areas of my life, something I don't have any trouble believing given how easily I can get people to do what I want... I'd like for in the bedroom, to be a place where I am made to feel feminine, and the one area in life where for once, I don't have to be the one wearing the pants so to speak. Unfortunately it thus far, doesn't work out like that unless I molest this one friend of mine (which I do, every time I see him) ...

Stories now...

I lost my virginity pretty much by taking another's... in high school, I was in ...Grade 12? He was in Grade 10?, its not like we discussed it... we were hanging out in my parents living room (while my mom & dad were hanging out in their bedroom) and I decided it was time, and he already had his hand down my pants, so I shuffled my pants down, shuffled his pants down, and crawled on top of him. He had a great cock actually, and then later on we went outside in the dark to fuck again in the yard. Lots of good times with him, actually! He was young'ish though so he was always nervous & if he'd ever lost that & taken charge, wow it would've been awesome! I was in charge though.

Next boyfriend was when I was in College taking secretarial training (yuck) and he was a welder. Was kind of interesting situation, I used to stare at him at lunch, and then one day while I was staring, I somehow lost sight of him & couldn't find him & was trying to see where he was, and then all of a sudden he was right there in front of me! Wow did I ever turn red! LOL Guess I wasn't being anywhere near as discreet as I thought! He was a hick though, and I don't remember much about it. My memories of him circulate more around the times we went offroading & stuff like that, then the times we fucked.

Next boyfriend after that was when I was in Australia, and I don't have very much friendly things to say (it was an abusive relationship) so I won't, but I did watch him masturbate in the shower one time while I pretended to do my makeup, and laughed at the faces he made... (the shower had glass walls & he figured it would be a good idea to masturbate, facing said glass wall) OH! I know what good thing I can say! He's the first boyfriend who asked me to shave absolutely EVERYTHING right off, and I haven't looked back since! He was a virgin too.

After that I had come home seriously damaged from the Australia relationship and sort of fell off the sane wagon & I had one night stands, I had drunken sexcapades, I got pregnant, I got unpregnant, (sorry if that offends anybody) I got men from Holland, Florida, and Alberta to fly out & visit me, and I fucked them. 2 of those were virgins too... at least... (Alberta was the last one, and he was in... Feb 2002)

After that, I at some point regained my senses & just stopped. The last person I slept with was last spring, so coming up on a year ago now I guess... and before him, was January of 2005 although I'm not sure it counts, I had an "introduction" (I'm going to call it that) to a man's penis, and very shortly after (haha no puns intended) decided that my middle finger both WAS longer, and LASTED longer, and therefore oughta just stick with it. Prior to that, was my friend Jim who I got drunk & then ended up straddling & ultimately since he was drunk, he slept with me... that was in July 2004, (and prior to him was Alberta) ..he didn't last very long, since it had been 2 years since he'd gotten laid... knowledge that I knew prior, & used to my own advantage, (as short as the whole thing lasted). We actually spent more time cleaning Merlot out of his carpet since he kept on knocking it over & spilling it, than we did fucking. Jim is still a good friend of mine though & he's the one who built this computer, and the last time he was over here, I grabbed his crotch as he walked past. He seemed ...really surprised that I did... LOL I don't know why he'd be surprised, I had even told him I was going to. He got all "dominant male" on me & grabbed my wrist really hard & told me that I would never do that again, so I got a small degree of satisfaction out of it. I knew beforehand that he would do that though, because the time he was over here prior to the crotch grabbing incident, he had gone to give me a hug goodbye, and I nibbled on his neck, and was rather abruptly shoved up against a wall rather forcefully & told that I would never do THAT again. *grins* And Jim wonders why I never stop molesting him... haha...

So those are my stories!

[Winetalk.com]

Sin,
DV is more right than you are and it's not a "devotion department". It's a simple ...Pavlov, and I don't talk about Pavlov's dog.

According to Pavlov -
"Relaxation is just a change of activity".

"A strong man who is used to being in control all the time" RELAXES being "a ball-less simpering idiot ".

To this man "a ball-less simpering idiot who does as 'commanded' regardless of how degrading the requested action/behavior may be."
IS a change of activity, the time away from the CEO chair where life and death decissions are made all day long and slipping into something where one's mind can go at ease by just following the orders.

Does it make sence to you now?

[Sin]

I suppose... a little bit maybe, not really my cup of tea all the same. I am still pretty sure I personally would feel more comfortable with a man who has other avenues of relaxing and changing activities..

By the way, the majority of my post is intended to be my perspective, my opinions, my feelings, etc etc... not an attack of any kind on DV, nor intended to be a "I'm more right than you are" type of measuring stick.

Different folks, different strokes. DV may be "more right" than me because that is what she prefers, which is great, I wouldn't assume to be "more right" than her on what she would prefer. I AM, however, most definitely more right when it comes to what *I* prefer.

[Mike AI]

This is the best thread of 2006!!

[Winetalk.com]

Sin, of course, we just exchanging opinions, information, war stories and like in wine and food-
there are no rights or wrongs.

In my expereince:
first girl just wants to be a ...girl. With womanhood, the crave for power comes in and us "alpha males IRL" appreciate it more and more.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

This is the best thread of 2006!!

I agree and ...this is somewhat about business. Webmasters should KNOW the product they sell. And it ain't just dirty pics and dirty clips. It's a state of mind of the "customer" which is most important.

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

I agree and ...this is somewhat about business. Webmasters should KNOW the product they sell. And it ain't just dirty pics and dirty clips. It's a state of mind of the "customer" which is most important.

I agree.

[Mike AI]

My experiences over the past few years is that girls in their early 20s want to be dominated, and even manhandled. These girls want to be fucked hard, with agression, spanking, choking, etc... As I reflect back on it I am not sure if girls were like this in college, or that I was not experienced and confidant enough to understand what they wanted and deliver.

Also younger women tend not to be as vocal before hand in what they want. They tend to be shy, or are worried that their partners will think they are "slutty" - which of course to me is a compliment.

I doubt this says anything about general society, it is probably more to do with the circles I run in.

Since I do not get much experiences with older women ( over 30) I think I am missing out on what Serge describes above as POWER. It gets boring after awhile of always being the dominate alpha male in the bedroom. It is the roll I play in the real world all the time, and could use a break!!

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

My experiences over the past few years is that girls in their early 20s want to be dominated, and even manhandled. These girls want to be fucked hard, with agression, spanking, choking, etc... As I reflect back on it I am not sure if girls were like this in college, or that I was not experienced and confidant enough to understand what they wanted and deliver.

Also younger women tend not to be as vocal before hand in what they want. They tend to be shy, or are worried that their partners will think they are "slutty" - which of course to me is a compliment.

I doubt this says anything about general society, it is probably more to do with the circles I run in.

Since I do not get much experiences with older women ( over 30) I think I am missing out on what Serge describes above as POWER. It gets boring after awhile of always being the dominate alpha male in the bedroom. It is the roll I play in the real world all the time, and could use a break!!

Mike if you need some help you just light the 'O' signal and I will be on the first plane to Tampa.

Whats family for anyways?

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Mike if you need some help you just light the 'O' signal and I will be on the first plane to Tampa.

Whats family for anyways?

HEHE Trust me I am not complaining, and my cup has yet to runneth over - just looking to expand horizons!

[Winetalk.com]

Mike,
very keen observations, indeed. How the fuck do I know?
Well...Sue and me have children and when you hear from them, when they describe their relationships:
"I just wanna be a girl.."
you know that what you have posted is RIGHT. Sin, being a young one, confirms it too.


DV, can you do Mike? I promise I'll have him sign 2257 for you site


Mike, want me talk her into
"we'll buy one and get one free" so we could share expences?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

HEHE Trust me I am not complaining, and my cup has yet to runneth over - just looking to expand horizons!

yaikes! I don't wanna do Gonzo! Confucy would disaprove!

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Mike,
very keen observations, indeed. How the fuck do I know?
Well...Sue and me have children and when you hear from them, when they describe their relationships:
"I just wanna be a girl.."
you know that what you have posted is RIGHT. Sin, being a young one, confirms it too.


DV, can you do Mike? I promise I'll have him sign 2257 for you site


Mike, want me talk her into
"we'll buy one and get one free" so we could share expences?

I would be very worried DV would permantly injure me - either physically or mentally.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

yaikes! I don't wanna do Gonzo! Confucy would disaprove!

Shes no fun anymore... all her mojo is gone and she cant even keep up with her lies even when its obvious that she looks stupid.

Its pretty freaky to have a granny stalker thats fixtated on you!

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

I would be very worried DV would permantly injure me - either physically or mentally.

Don't worry and don't be a whiner. I'll prime her up and explain her what men REALLY want!

[Sin]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Sin, of course, we just exchanging opinions, information, war stories and like in wine and food-
there are no rights or wrongs.

In my expereince:
first girl just wants to be a ...girl. With womanhood, the crave for power comes in and us "alpha males IRL" appreciate it more and more.

I currently hold too much power in the other areas of my life, for me to want it in the bedroom as well... for me, the bedroom is the ONE place where I feel I even have the possibility of feeling feminine & handing control & power over to another. (and even then, I don't hand it over to just anybody, its either there or it isn't)

Guess that's the downside of being a control freak lol

[Sin]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

My experiences over the past few years is that girls in their early 20s want to be dominated, and even manhandled. These girls want to be fucked hard, with agression, spanking, choking, etc... As I reflect back on it I am not sure if girls were like this in college, or that I was not experienced and confidant enough to understand what they wanted and deliver.

Also younger women tend not to be as vocal before hand in what they want. They tend to be shy, or are worried that their partners will think they are "slutty" - which of course to me is a compliment.

Since I do not get much experiences with older women ( over 30) I think I am missing out on what Serge describes above as POWER. It gets boring after awhile of always being the dominate alpha male in the bedroom. It is the roll I play in the real world all the time, and could use a break!!

Hmmm, I wish to be dominated yes, but not in a violent way, I wish to be dominated a way that enhances my femininity... not in one that abuses it. I don't wish to be spanked, choked, tied up, or anything else really, I just don't want a guy who is going to turn into a sop in the bedroom over how happy he is purely to get laid ... *YAWN!*

I'm not very vocal in bed I don't think... in the past I've had roommates or some other such individual around in the house, and so I wasn't overly eager to be vocal. I also lived with an older woman for a while, who was SO vocal that one night I got up, went to the downstairs suite, knocked on their door (since it was clear they couldn't be sleeping through the racket) and said "I just wanted you to know *points up* THAT is NOT me!" lol They got a good laugh out of it.

As far as not wanting people to think I'm slutty, in these parts it isn't too hard... lol (at least not by my standards) ...there's lots of sluts around here. If there's guys out there "just looking for a lay" then there's "lays'a'plenty" so to speak. I don't have to add myself to the mix, and I don't. As pointed out in my other post, I appear to be more capable of pleasuring myself than the guys around here anyways. If I have to sleep with many to find one that's halfway decent, I'd rather just ...not.

On the level of a man wanting a break from being the 'dominant' power all the time, that is something that I can understand & relate to... although I still don't think he should need to be blindfolded, gagged, trampled, peed on, tied up, collared, (I own a collar & a leash, and even wear them, although none has ever held the leash except for myself LOL) ...etc.

I've been with guys who want to pretty much just lay there, and it sucks, I figure if I'm going to be responsible for getting myself off, I can do that without them there! I wouldn't even object to a guy who wanted me to play the dominant role in the bedroom *sometimes* but I couldn't make a sexual lifestyle of it personally.

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by Sin

Hmmm, I wish to be dominated yes, but not in a violent way, I wish to be dominated a way that enhances my femininity... not in one that abuses it. I don't wish to be spanked, choked, tied up, or anything else really, I just don't want a guy who is going to turn into a sop in the bedroom over how happy he is purely to get laid ... *YAWN!*

I'm not very vocal in bed I don't think... in the past I've had roommates or some other such individual around in the house, and so I wasn't overly eager to be vocal. I also lived with an older woman for a while, who was SO vocal that one night I got up, went to the downstairs suite, knocked on their door (since it was clear they couldn't be sleeping through the racket) and said "I just wanted you to know *points up* THAT is NOT me!" lol They got a good laugh out of it.

As far as not wanting people to think I'm slutty, in these parts it isn't too hard... lol (at least not by my standards) ...there's lots of sluts around here. If there's guys out there "just looking for a lay" then there's "lays'a'plenty" so to speak. I don't have to add myself to the mix, and I don't. As pointed out in my other post, I appear to be more capable of pleasuring myself than the guys around here anyways. If I have to sleep with many to find one that's halfway decent, I'd rather just ...not.

On the level of a man wanting a break from being the 'dominant' power all the time, that is something that I can understand & relate to... although I still don't think he should need to be blindfolded, gagged, trampled, peed on, tied up, collared, (I own a collar & a leash, and even wear them, although none has ever held the leash except for myself LOL) ...etc.

I've been with guys who want to pretty much just lay there, and it sucks, I figure if I'm going to be responsible for getting myself off, I can do that without them there! I wouldn't even object to a guy who wanted me to play the dominant role in the bedroom *sometimes* but I couldn't make a sexual lifestyle of it personally.

We are in same chapter, just a few pages off.

The dominance, spanking, choking, etc. is just roll playing - not real violence or damage is done. That would not turn me on.

Just enough to give them mind blowing orgasms.... which is something that does turn me on.

[Sin]

Perhaps if when I am older, I am married & have relenquished some of my life's control (which at this point, makes the idea of me getting married rather debatable) ...then I will want power in the bedroom so that I may have a balance.

As it is right now though, everything is in my control. My job, where I live, etc etc... Its all under my control & how I conduct myself, how I spend my money that I earned, etc etc. If I had control in the bedroom I would have absolutely no balance (although I suppose as it is right now I have control in the bedroom too, since I keep myself happy LOL)

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by Sin

If I had control in the bedroom I would have absolutely no balance (although I suppose as it is right now I have control in the bedroom too, since I keep myself happy LOL)

This post is worthless without pics!!



or video.

[Vick]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

My experiences over the past few years is that girls in their early 20s want to be dominated, and even manhandled. These girls want to be fucked hard, with agression, spanking, choking, etc... ....

Also younger women tend not to be as vocal before hand in what they want. They tend to be shy, or are worried that their partners will think they are "slutty" - which of course to me is a compliment.

Which could explain why all of the women but one I've dated in the past 14 years have been 20 or 21 when I started dating them

Personally I've never met a women who didn't enjoy being spanked (but they must be very excited first, if they are clitoral a reach around while fucking doggy style helps) and/or dominated (to some degree) sexually.

I am a bit unusual and probably by look, action or pheromones attract women who are "bent" this way sexually

I've also found that women in that age aren't shy about "talking" once you get them started but may have challenges starting or getting to exactly what they would like when they would like it

Actually I found it's more important to get some one very excited and then just about anything goes, it's the warm up that's allows any delivery ;-)

Beyond that get a young girl (20 or 21 or so) very excited sexually and then tell them no when first dating, it changes the entire dynamic. They most likely never been turned down for sex before and most likely have experienced men doing ridiculous things in attempts to get laid

[voodooman]

Sin,

Sounds like you need to cut loose and visit Oklahoma.

[Sin]

Originally Posted by voodooman

Sin,

Sounds like you need to cut loose and visit Oklahoma.

Very forward & to the point! I like it!

[Winetalk.com]

Be careful with Voodoo, he doesn't eat...fish.

[Dianna Vesta]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Sin,
DV is more right than you are and it's not a "devotion department". It's a simple ...Pavlov, and I don't talk about Pavlov's dog.

According to Pavlov -
"Relaxation is just a change of activity".

"A strong man who is used to being in control all the time" RELAXES being "a ball-less simpering idiot ".

To this man "a ball-less simpering idiot who does as 'commanded' regardless of how degrading the requested action/behavior may be."
IS a change of activity, the time away from the CEO chair where life and death decissions are made all day long and slipping into something where one's mind can go at ease by just following the orders.

Does it make sence to you now?

That made no cents to me. lol- Really let me grab a cappacino and try again.

Sin, great story. Next trip in Vegas we need to hook up, for sure.

[Dianna Vesta]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

I would be very worried DV would permantly injure me - either physically or mentally.

Oh baby are you serious? I think you're cute as a fucking button & your wife is icing on that cake. Hurting you is NOT what I had in mind.

[Dianna Vesta]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

We are in same chapter, just a few pages off.

The dominance, spanking, choking, etc. is just roll playing - not real violence or damage is done. That would not turn me on.

Just enough to give them mind blowing orgasms.... which is something that does turn me on.

There is always a layer just beneath the surface... everyone has this. Finding it, uncovering it and nurturing it is the art.

I'm going to elaborate on this when I have more time. Fucking programmers.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Dianna Vesta

That made no cents to me. lol- Really let me grab a cappacino and try again.

Sin, great story. Next trip in Vegas we need to hook up, for sure.

it doesn't make sense (not cents) to you because you preffer and know women much more than you know men.
Cappuccino won't help. Expect no help from "cappacino" either.

[Dianna Vesta]

Originally Posted by Vick

Which could explain why all of the women but one I've dated in the past 14 years have been 20 or 21 when I started dating them

Personally I've never met a women who didn't enjoy being spanked (but they must be very excited first, if they are clitoral a reach around while fucking doggy style helps) and/or dominated (to some degree) sexually.

I am a bit unusual and probably by look, action or pheromones attract women who are "bent" this way sexually

I've also found that women in that age aren't shy about "talking" once you get them started but may have challenges starting or getting to exactly what they would like when they would like it

Actually I found it's more important to get some one very excited and then just about anything goes, it's the warm up that's allows any delivery ;-)

Beyond that get a young girl (20 or 21 or so) very excited sexually and then tell them no when first dating, it changes the entire dynamic. They most likely never been turned down for sex before and most likely have experienced men doing ridiculous things in attempts to get laid

This all sounds pretty hot and I agree. I don't know many women who don't like spanking.

[Dianna Vesta]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Don't worry and don't be a whiner. I'll prime her up and explain her what men REALLY want!

Give me a break! You ain't priming nothing but a hard on that dribbles. I know what men want... I'm just getting MINE first.