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Old 05-24-2005   #1
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Look I was away this weekend.

Can someone give me the run down.

Which programs are good?

Which affiliates send traffic worth a shit and who don't?

I know some of you have the info...

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Things have been very tight lipped. <_<
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WEG and G3X are still good
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Reading through , I understand Brand0n's disbelief in my numbers.




So a webmaster sending traffic and getting $60k a mth is huge!!!!

And an affiliate program doing 300 sales a day is huge......

Jeeezzzzz...I hope that is just the GFY perception because if it is reality , the business is fucked.
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Reading through , I understand Brand0n's disbelief in my numbers.




So a webmaster sending traffic and getting $60k a mth is huge!!!!

And an affiliate program doing 300 sales a day is huge......

Jeeezzzzz...I hope that is just the GFY perception because if it is reality , the business is fucked.
what most idiots don't realize is those numbers weren't what the program was doing in sales, those were referrers...
so mailer traffic, internal traffic, etc. wasn't counted in that

that being said, we looked pretty good ;-)

300 a day is huge now because most mailers are shit, affiliate have no loytalties, and there aren't as many good credit card scams as there were in the golden days ;-)
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let me re-phrase that
300 isn't huge, but it is better than average...

Nick, you'd be surprised how many "bigger" programs, even the old vets, that aren't doing that (of course they'll never admit it publicly ;-))
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let me re-phrase that
300 isn't huge, but it is better than average...

Nick, you'd be surprised how many "bigger" programs, even the old vets, that aren't doing that (of course they'll never admit it publicly ;-))
Such as?

Someone name some names here....

LOL

If it was all open , people should know.


And you looked pretty good?

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It was a fuck up that turned into a complete coup for a few programs lol... since the dispute over their numbers has probably garnered them a few new affiliates, especially if the ratios were good
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It was a fuck up that turned into a complete coup for a few programs lol... since the dispute over their numbers has probably garnered them a few new affiliates, especially if the ratios were good
I thought you represented NATS , KK ?
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I got to the second page of the thread over there and hadn't seen anything worth note so I said the hell with it. Maybe there were numbers or something of note posted later in the thread or something but I got annoyed reading the first two pages. <_<

When it all comes down to it I really don't give a fuck what numbers were posted. They could post shitty numbers for a program but if they were converting for me and making me good money what the fuck do I care about some numbers posted in a case like that. The check is all that matters.
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I got to the second page of the thread over there and hadn't seen anything worth note so I said the hell with it. Maybe there were numbers or something of note posted later in the thread or something but I got annoyed reading the first two pages. <_<

When it all comes down to it I really don't give a fuck what numbers were posted. They could post shitty numbers for a program but if they were converting for me and making me good money what the fuck do I care about some numbers posted in a case like that. The check is all that matters.
Dude there appear to be some programs that were claiming 100s of joins a day that are doing 10...
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I thought this business was all about smoke and mirrors...

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I thought this business was all about smoke and mirrors...

To an extent...

But you at least need to be able to buy the smoke and mirrors.
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NATS is a solid program. John and Charley are great guys, I will be sitting down with them soon to go over it for my own sites.

A page that showed refferer stats was left open, some asshole decided to go right to the boards with it instead of simply just emailing them the bug. After the bug was known, the problem was fixed after a few minutes...

I guess you can say some programs got caught with their pants down, since they over-represent what they are doing. Some guys were proud of their #s and won them more affiliates.
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NATS is a solid program. John and Charley are great guys, I will be sitting down with them soon to go over it for my own sites.

A page that showed refferer stats was left open, some asshole decided to go right to the boards with it instead of simply just emailing them the bug. After the bug was known, the problem was fixed after a few minutes...

I guess you can say some programs got caught with their pants down, since they over-represent what they are doing. Some guys were proud of their #s and won them more affiliates.
Biggy... I will have to agree with you. The only seminar Ive ever attended was the NATS one in Vegas. It a very powerful piece of programming. It is not an easy task to integrate your sites into unless you have someone dedicated to it as a regualr employee. We have just turned it on and look forward to seeing what all it can do as we have affiliates sign up. It gives you the entire picture of whats going on from one central place.

Feel free to contact me if youd like to know my personal experience with getting it set up. I think the other 2 FFN's can chime in on this as well.
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NATS is a solid program. John and Charley are great guys, I will be sitting down with them soon to go over it for my own sites.

A page that showed refferer stats was left open, some asshole decided to go right to the boards with it instead of simply just emailing them the bug. After the bug was known, the problem was fixed after a few minutes...

I guess you can say some programs got caught with their pants down, since they over-represent what they are doing. Some guys were proud of their #s and won them more affiliates.
If I'd have been the guy that found hole, I'd have gone into every sponsor I knew running NATS...

Then I would have brought it here... armed with figures I would have had page views up like a mother f**ker
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NATS is a solid program. John and Charley are great guys, I will be sitting down with them soon to go over it for my own sites.

A page that showed refferer stats was left open, some asshole decided to go right to the boards with it instead of simply just emailing them the bug. After the bug was known, the problem was fixed after a few minutes...

I guess you can say some programs got caught with their pants down, since they over-represent what they are doing. Some guys were proud of their #s and won them more affiliates.
yeah, they're great guys
and what some people are forgetting isn't the fuck up, it's how these guys handled the fuck up...instead of pissing with a bunch of idiots on messag boards, they took care of their clients and got everything straightened out...the mistake isn't as important as how the mistake is handled...and they did a great job
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