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We emailed our affiliates the following message earlier today. Being that some of you do not read email we want to make sure as many of you see this as soon as possible due to the importance of this to our bottom line.
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We want to thank all of you that have taken the time to switch your link codes to the new program. Due to reasons we are unable to comment on at this time, we will be moving away from the Nats system. We feel it is in everyone’s best interest that we ask you to change your link codes back to the old system. We do realize that this is more than just a small inconvenience. As a company that has been concerned about our reputation since 1997, we feel this will serve to be beneficial to both affiliates and ourselves. We have already taken the steps of changing our own house traffic back to the old link codes. We have no plans to push any of our own traffic into the Nats program any longer. You will have 30 days to remove your codes and we will be importing all of your rebills back into the old system over the next few days, so nothing you have sent will be lost or unaccounted for.
We feel this is something that will be an inconvenience now, but much better for all involved in the long term. At this point, we ask that you go back to the old link codes. We expect to have a new tool to replace Nats very soon. It is still our intent to provide a solution that will allow for the features you as our affiliates have asked for. Thank you for your continued support and understanding during this transitional stage. We hope if you have any questions or concerns about how this will affect you that you will take the time to contact us personally via email - charles@eent.com , jeff@eent.com or via ICQ 113 152 714.
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For those of you running hosted galleries there are many more in the old system then we had available for NATS. You can get all that data you need for the old system here
You will be able to login the same was as before if you do not have that info please contact me with your name and affiliate ID or email address you used when you joined.
We will be adding and moving over much more in the way of content for affiliates in the coming days to allow you to update banners and images since you already are changing the urls.
We have spent a good portion of the day working to make this as seamless as possible and will be available via email for any questions regarding your link codes. If you want us to verify your links we will work with you to get everything taken care of. We will stay up as late as we can tonight answering emails and then resume again tomorrow morning. Checks will be going out on time as usual and you will get paid on what you send us as you always have. Updates will be sent out over the next few days via email about how rebills will appear and where you can go to verify the information so please watch for more news as it becomes available.
Again, thank you to all of you that have stood by us already during this transition. We appreciate your business, your traffic and your trust in our program. We hope that we can work with each of you to make this move a positive step for all of us involved.
Originally posted by Spw Guru@Apr 4 2005, 07:10 PM Due to reasons we are unable to comment on at this time, we will be moving away from the Nats system..................
We have no plans to push any of our own traffic into the Nats program any longer. .........................
We feel this is something that will be an inconvenience now, but much better for all involved in the long term. At this point, we ask that you go back to the old link codes. We expect to have a new tool to replace Nats very soon. It is still our intent to provide a solution that will allow for the features you as our affiliates have asked for. Thank you for your continued support and understanding during this transitional stage. We hope if you have any questions or concerns about how this will affect you that you will take the time to contact us personally via email - charles@eent.com , jeff@eent.com or via ICQ 113 152 714.
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For those of you running hosted galleries there are many more in the old system then we had available for NATS. You can get all that data you need for the old system here
You will be able to login the same was as before if you do not have that info please contact me with your name and affiliate ID or email address you used when you joined.
We will be adding and moving over much more in the way of content for affiliates in the coming days to allow you to update banners and images since you already are changing the urls.
We have spent a good portion of the day working to make this as seamless as possible and will be available via email for any questions regarding your link codes. If you want us to verify your links we will work with you to get everything taken care of. We will stay up as late as we can tonight answering emails and then resume again tomorrow morning. Checks will be going out on time as usual and you will get paid on what you send us as you always have. Updates will be sent out over the next few days via email about how rebills will appear and where you can go to verify the information so please watch for more news as it becomes available.
Again, thank you to all of you that have stood by us already during this transition. We appreciate your business, your traffic and your trust in our program. We hope that we can work with each of you to make this move a positive step for all of us involved.
When you are able to say I hope you post the reasons here.
We are working with the NATS team to develop solutions that will allow you to keep your links up if you want. We are still removing nats from our machines including stats but you will be able to move your traffic back to the old system. We do not recommend this as a long term solution but this will allow you to not get blacklisted. It is still our intent to remove nats from our program and it is our recommendation to not use the links any longer.
We appreciate all the support from our friends and users during this move and we are always available for any questions you have via email or ICQ.
If you are one of the new affiliates that did not join up with us before NATS/XXXRewards was installed please contact me. We need to get you set up on the old system and I want to work with you to make that go easier and to make sure your rebills are moved over properly. If you were already were set up your rebills from XXXRewards will just be moved back into the old system shortly.
Nathan is correct we are currently working with NATS on a program that will allow you to not lose sales on links you cannot change. This will prevent you from being forced to change your links if you are a tgp submitter or such and blacklisting will be an issue. However, we do not suggest this for those of you that can change or update your links. We believe the best thing would be to switch back to the old system.
When we launched Xxxrewards we increased payouts to 60% on any new sales using the new codes. This went very well and stimulated a lot of new growth. Since it was received so well we would like to take it a step further. Xxxrewards/Karups/Bfcollection are pleased to announce that all earnings new and recurring from the original billing system and the new system will now earn you 60%. This means that if you have any recurring members with any of our sites, starting next month you will get 60% of the earnings on them instead of 50%. This goes for all EENT partners to all of our sites. As we have done in the past we look for ways to make the situation work for the people that have supported us. We felt this is the best way to thank those that have supported us throughout the years.
Contact me with any questions. This will go into effect for earnings this month paid out next month. March's earnings being paid out this week will be unaffected.
I'd like to hear anything about the improper tracking anyone may have any information on. One thing I found on on the backend system as I was getting used to it was the ability to ADD a sale manually for a reseller which threw me off to all HELL ?
I am just now getting used to the backend interface and if it is becoming such a large trend I would like to know why before we do a hard launch of one of our programs so we don't have to change links mid campaign as Karup's did here. I remember what a pain in the ass that can be.
One piece of info I would like is if you have an account named say 'account1' on NATS and they get a sale through Epoch - if you go into your reseller database does it show up as 'account1' getting the sale? This would be the easiest way to verify webmasters are getting proper credit and I know the old system I worked with did it as shown above. It was probably one of the best and simple to use webmaster programs out there I have ever seen - Pimp Roll uses it right now... I am not even sure if the designer sells it any more but I am sure he could be enticed to ...
Ryan
What I meant is on Epoch's reports would it show up on account1 as a reseller as well as NATS reporting it under that account as a sale for clarification
Personally I don't think I could use anything that was named after a small annoying blood sucking fly… NATS… now that’s just a goddamn swarm of the little fuckers
Unless I'm missing something... the only issue NATS had in stats reporting was with ElectraCash.... who they told people NOT to use because of problems.......
Originally posted by fatbaby@Apr 5 2005, 03:51 PM Unless I'm missing something... the only issue NATS had in stats reporting was with ElectraCash.... who they told people NOT to use because of problems.......
Was there something else out there that I missed?
exactly
every time there is a new biller introduced to the system, it always has a few issues, I know when you guys were adding 123bill into NATS, there were a few issues and they got resolved and we now use you guys
Nothing is perfect and no one piece of software is going to work with everyone's program. Remember the mass exodus from MPA2? It always happens when something bright, shiny and new comes along...there are going to be issues.
We've been with NATS for a long time now and have seen the improvements and growing pains that come associated with growing so big, so fast.
Now, some people are going to MPA3 and ExecStats (which I'm sure will have it's issues as well which is kind of the nature of the business)
My logical side says NATS is having growing pains and isn't currently able to provide the level of support needed for some people for such a highly configurable program.
My more sinister smart ass side wonders if this is a profitability issue. NATS' touted no built in shave might be forcing people back to software that makes no such promise.
Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Apr 5 2005, 05:44 PM My logical side says NATS is having growing pains and isn't currently able to provide the level of support needed for some people for such a highly configurable program.
My more sinister smart ass side wonders if this is a profitability issue. NATS' touted no built in shave might be forcing people back to software that makes no such promise.
"COMING SOON!!! - Popebucks!!! The Cardinal Rule is "Our count is infaliable"!!!"
hahah. in a couple years you went from portraying yourself as the devil with Nicks Clicks (i think it was called) to representing the pope's affiliate program online. you have really turned things around in your life.
Originally posted by JR@Apr 5 2005, 06:25 PM "COMING SOON!!! - Popebucks!!! The Cardinal Rule is "Our count is infaliable"!!!"
hahah. in a couple years you went from portraying yourself as the devil with Nicks Clicks (i think it was called) to representing the pope's affiliate program online. you have really turned things around in your life.
Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Apr 5 2005, 08:44 PM My logical side says NATS is having growing pains and isn't currently able to provide the level of support needed for some people for such a highly configurable program.
My more sinister smart ass side wonders if this is a profitability issue. NATS' touted no built in shave might be forcing people back to software that makes no such promise.
pretty much, though I can't speak for all companies
any program that gets that big that fast is going to have gorwing pains, no matter how well they may prepare
Originally posted by *KK*@Apr 6 2005, 12:35 PM Always trying to kick a man when he's down at his boat grilling veal chops and you know he won't be back, eh?
Seems a couiple of years back some wise ass decided to charter a yacht , cram it with computers and high gain arials and use any open wireless within range to spam out of...
They also had a big fuck off RV with every cupboard housing a computer in , looked totally normal til you opened a cupboard LOL.
Write your own software in house. Much better sleeping at night factor. We're running a bunch of programs on it now, ours and others' We have a genius on staff thankfully, and albeit expensive, he's worth it.
We've gone through 4 generations of software. They all still count. It's not rocket science.
Props to Karups, definately my favorite site for gorgeous ladies.
04-04-2005
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