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I mean I was alwasy of the school of thought, if you go hiking in woods, it is best to be able to identiyfy the poisonous snakes from the non poisonous species
( I am not ofering any opinion on the specifics of the merrits of this particular situation)
I am just realizing that as is always the case, the reporters look for the bad and the drama, over the normal practices of business ( as they know it will sell more) and I want to know who the Papparazzi are and who the true business reporters are.
Had to drop in for this. Apparently Gonzo still hasn't removed my account here.
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According to Luke Ford, a pioneer blogger and keen observer of the Internet porn scene, the scheme was able to roll up such huge numbers because of deals Crescent made with two Internet traffic brokers — Serge Birbrair and Yishai Habari — that resulted in millions of porn-seeking surfers a day being directed to the sites.
“Yishai and Serge made millions off the scam and escaped FTC prosecution because they only functioned as traffic brokers,” Ford wrote on his Web site.
Neither Birbrair nor Habari responded to e-mail requests for comment.
This may be the one time in serge's life he had nothing to say.
Have a nice one, I am out of here.
Alex
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Originally posted by RawAlex@Feb 15 2005, 11:20 AM Had to drop in for this. Apparently Gonzo still hasn't removed my account here.
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According to Luke Ford, a pioneer blogger and keen observer of the Internet porn scene, the scheme was able to roll up such huge numbers because of deals Crescent made with two Internet traffic brokers — Serge Birbrair and Yishai Habari — that resulted in millions of porn-seeking surfers a day being directed to the sites.
“Yishai and Serge made millions off the scam and escaped FTC prosecution because they only functioned as traffic brokers,” Ford wrote on his Web site.
Neither Birbrair nor Habari responded to e-mail requests for comment.
This may be the one time in serge's life he had nothing to say.
Have a nice one, I am out of here.
Alex
We all restrained ourself. Alex couldn't. No surprise.
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Originally posted by RawAlex@Feb 15 2005, 08:20 AM Had to drop in for this. Apparently Gonzo still hasn't removed my account here.
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According to Luke Ford, a pioneer blogger and keen observer of the Internet porn scene, the scheme was able to roll up such huge numbers because of deals Crescent made with two Internet traffic brokers — Serge Birbrair and Yishai Habari — that resulted in millions of porn-seeking surfers a day being directed to the sites.
“Yishai and Serge made millions off the scam and escaped FTC prosecution because they only functioned as traffic brokers,” Ford wrote on his Web site.
Neither Birbrair nor Habari responded to e-mail requests for comment.
This may be the one time in serge's life he had nothing to say.
Have a nice one, I am out of here.
Alex
Why should Serge have anything to say? The article CLEARLY STATED he was innocent in any dealings, as he was just a business man selling traffic
I mean if fantasyman can be duped by "the butcher" then why is it hard for you to fathom Serge was duped, and Luke just included his name as inuendo wich apperantly runs prevalent in this business ?
What a bunch of hypocritical cunts this business breeds LOL
Serge is brought into the article by Luke Ford.
Because that dickless cunt Ford needs attention and he is nothing and will always be nothing and lives in abject envy of those who are smart , talented , gifted and want a better life for themselves and there family.
He would much rather bitch and whine about his failure of a life than go out and actually make something of it.
Well I part owned Traffic Inc which became the biggest click broker after Serge retired
Cresent paid me a fortune.
I admit it.I'm not a snivelling hypocrite.
I thank my friend Serge for puttting me in touch with them. I sent them traffic , lots of it too.Whatever they did with it was their business.
As far as I'm concerned they paid on time and very very well.I think excess of a million per month some months.I found them to be very professional.
Here is the interesting point....
I thought my rivals at the time were 12 Clicks and Brad ?
I thought they also got paid by Cresent?
In fact , I remeber getting a call from them to stop sending traffic to Serge (whilst Serge was on holiday , even then they had to stab in the back ) ,and for me to send traffic to them as they would pay better.
Originally posted by RawAlex@Feb 15 2005, 11:20 AM
This may be the one time in serge's life he had nothing to say.
Have a nice one, I am out of here.
Alex
hmmm...I said that the biggest traffic we recived was from Raw Alex and presented the scans of the cashed checks...
I also took the liberty of posting your mug with the check from us on http://winetalk.com
use Search Engine,
it's RawAlex.JPG
Royal Mountain Police is now probably taping your phone....
You can run, RawAlex, but you can't hide....
all your URL's you were sending traffic to are now in the cyber vault: http://cotac.com/serge/
what the heck have you done with the money???? RCMP wants to know...
Originally posted by JoesHO1@Feb 15 2005, 12:06 PM I mean if fantasyman can be duped by "the butcher" then why is it hard for you to fathom Serge was duped, and Luke just included his name as inuendo wich apperantly runs prevalent in this business ?
ahahahah, now this is priceless.... too funny..... oh man....
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i may still be wet behind the ears, but who the hell is luke ford? I imagine he is getting paid by the mainstream press to offer up names on people doing this or that.
I can smell a rat..i hope nobody is paying for the asshat to be around
Originally posted by Phoenix@Feb 15 2005, 09:19 AM i may still be wet behind the ears, but who the hell is luke ford? I imagine he is getting paid by the mainstream press to offer up names on people doing this or that.
I can smell a rat..i hope nobody is paying for the asshat to be around
He is a wannabee writer.
Writes gossip about the adult industry.
He is a whore.
I hired him at Netpond for a while.But as everyone eventually learns..he brings nothing.
"thumbprint on the first-floor window of a skyscraper, a smudge of excrement on a tissue surging out to sea along with millions of tons of raw sewage."
a dickless wonder who would get more mainstream publicity from shooting himself (at least them he gets in the mainsteam obituaries), than from anything he actually tries to do to get such publicity. Just another blogger, though this one with a serious Napoleon complex.
a dickless wonder who would get more mainstream publicity from shooting himself (at least them he gets in the mainsteam obituaries), than from anything he actually tries to do to get such publicity. Just another blogger, though this one with a serious Napoleon complex.
Perfect!
I so hope one day he does go for the REAL publicity.
Thousands of Consumers Illegally Billed for "Free Tours" Promoted by Sites
The owners and operators of www.playgirl.com, www.highsociety.com and scores of other adult Web sites have been charged by the Federal Trade Commission with illegally billing thousands of consumers for services that were advertised as "free," and for billing other consumers who never visited the Web sites at all. The FTC and the New York Attorney General have filed suit in U.S. District Court seeking to halt the illegal billing practices and have asked the Court to freeze the defendants' assets, pending trial, to provide for consumer redress.
New York City-based Crescent Publishing Group, Inc., its owner, Bruce Chew, and principal David Bernstein, are named as defendants in the federal court complaint detailing the charges, along with 64 affiliated corporations that operate the adult entertainment Web sites. According to the complaint, the "Free Tour Web Sites" generated income of $188 million between 1997 and October 1999 -- $141 million of which was generated in the first 10 months of 1999 alone.
According to the complaint, the defendants operate scores of adult entertainment Web sites, promoting them as "free." The "Free Tour Web Sites" claim that consumers' credit card numbers are required solely to prove that the consumers are of legal age to view the adult material, and that the credit cards will not be billed. But thousands of consumers were charged recurring monthly membership fees ranging from $20 to $90, the complaint says. Consumers who tried to dispute the charges were met with a variety of barriers designed by the defendants to thwart their efforts. According to the complaint, the defendants use billing names different than the names of the Web sites, so consumers often had no idea who was billing them or why. Moreover, consumers often had difficulty the contacting defendants to get refunds from information provided to them on their billing statement.
According to the joint FTC/ New York A.G. complaint, the defendants routinely change corporate billing names and merchant banks in an attempt to avoid the fraud detection systems of credit card organizations such as Visa U.S.A. When it realized what the defendants were doing, Visa U.S.A. disqualified them from using its credit card system. The defendants moved their merchant banking relationship to Guatemala, adopted several new merchant names, and continued to process credit card transactions.
The FTC and the New York Attorney General allege that Crescent and its principals have violated the FTC Act and New York state law. They have asked the Court to halt the deceptive and unfair practices, to appoint a receiver to oversee the businesses and to freeze the defendants' assets pending trial to preserve them for consumer redress.
The Commission vote to file the complaint was 5-0.
The complaint was filed August 23, 2000 in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.
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The funny thing is, on most of those sites, the most content that was on the
site was the content on the banners themselves... much of it my content.
I sold those to Yishai for a flat licensing fee. Should have asked for
a percentage of sales, or leased the images to him...
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