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Old 04-04-2004   #1
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What happened in the first 20 minutes? The rest I saw was a pretty good episode.


So I go to the burbs today to see my family have lunch and handwash the camaro, I get done with everything but the washing, pulled into top off the tires, go for the start to pull her out for the bathing, no go.



Thought it was the security chip in the key, so my dad drives me back to chicago for the second, and back to the burbs while the battery charges just in case. No go. Looks like the starter, which I can't really do myself. So now they are going to have to tow it and possibly fuck up the ground effects, as it's only about 4" off the ground. Bummer! At least I got to see my little sister though.


Someone clue me in on tonights sopranos first 20 min please
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We finally got to see Adrianna's tits during the first 20 minutes...
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Guess I'll have to wait till tomorrows re-run, or till serge is around.
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They made it look like Drea was going to suck Tony'd dick and she was falling for him, Tony had to think about, spite his nephew, morale less Tony fucks everybody even the gimp. He consults Bracco on the issue, thats about it.
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It's on HBOW at midnight which is when I'm watching it.

Then again, I don't drive a Camaro so I was here for the first showing too - was just watching something else

4 inches off the ground you wouldn't make it up OR down my driveway.
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They made it look like Drea was going to suck Tony'd dick and she was falling for him, Tony had to think about, spite his nephew, morale less Tony fucks everybody even the gimp. He consults Bracco on the issue, thats about it.
Did we watch the same show?
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It's on HBOW at midnight which is when I'm watching it.

Then again, I don't drive a Camaro so I was here for the first showing too - was just watching something else

4 inches off the ground you wouldn't make it up OR down my driveway.
the only west i get is hbo2 west

the rest are east

have ta wait till tomorrow to get those 20 minutes
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Who give a shit? THIS is the reason I might order HBO!!

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Rendering Unto Caesar's Subjects

By FRANK BRUNI

Published: April 5, 2004

ROME, April 1 — As everybody knows or can at least surmise, Rome was not built in a day.

But it did rise in just a few months, resplendent in all its plywood, fiberglass and sheet-metal glory. One of the few unfinished civic projects on a recent afternoon was a patch of the piazza near the Temple of Venus, where the cement had yet to dry.

"Watch your step," warned Anne Thomopoulos, an HBO senior executive, but the words came too late. There it was, sullying the classical cityscape and blowing its cover: a size 11 footprint from a shoe that belonged most definitively to a later period.

Ms. Thomopoulos laughed and vowed that it would be repaired. A visitor's clumsy misstep was not about to throw HBO off its latest loopy vision.

The cable network that made morticians sexy ("Six Feet Under") and that just began deconstructing the western ("Deadwood") is now reconstructing and revivifying ancient Rome.

To do so HBO enlisted the BBC as a partner, and together they have committed around $75 million for 12 one-hour episodes of "Rome," a drama scheduled to have its debut in 2005. If the show is successful, a second and even third season could follow.

The series has also set up production in modern Rome, partly on the theory that proximity breeds historical fidelity, or at least a convincing approximation of it.

"They shot `Sex and the City' in New York," Ms. Thomopoulos said. "They shoot `The Sopranos' in New Jersey. There's a texture and verisimilitude you get when you shoot in the actual place."

The enormous crew shooting "Rome" is six miles or so from the city's historic center, on the famous Cinecittà lot, where Federico Fellini once worked and, more recently, Mel Gibson made much of "The Passion of the Christ" and Martin Scorsese molded "Gangs of New York." Bits of the Scorsese film linger: if you wander to the far edge of Rome circa 51 B.C., you stumble abruptly into New York City around 1850.

Rome is bigger and much, much brighter than expected. It has a thicket of Ionic and Corinthian columns in red, yellow, orange and black. Joseph Bennett, the show's production designer, said that those hues were every bit as accurate as the time-weathered white of the pillars remaining in the Forum downtown.

"Everything was colored," Mr. Bennett said as he guided a reporter on a tour of his version of Rome. "It was vibrant."

Bruno Heller, one of the show's executive producers and its chief writer, explained over lunch that ancient Rome was really a scruffy, teeming bazaar, not the monochromatic showcase for neatly pressed tunics and regal posturing that generations of screenwriters and directors have emphasized.

"Rome of that period was more like Bombay or Mexico City," Mr. Heller said. "It was a dirty, wild, savage place."

Cue HBO.

Ms. Thomopoulos hatched the broad idea for the series in 1997 after watching a DVD of "I, Claudius," the 1970's British television drama about ancient Rome. She said she had an appetite for more, and for something different.

Several years later, she said, Mr. Heller showed up in her Los Angeles office "to pitch an idea about white-trash America." She asked him if he would be willing to rechannel his energies toward white-trash Rome.

"Love ancient Rome," she recalled him responding.

The concept was to peek at imperial Rome from the perspective of the common man's living room rather than from the Caesar's lair. What emerged was a plot that whirled around two soldiers who return to the city after years away dismembering Gauls.

One of those soldiers is "very worried that his wife has been unfaithful to him," Mr. Heller said.

"Complications ensue," said Stan Wlodkowski, another of the executive producers.

Those twists and turns are rendered not in Latin or Aramaic but in relatively colloquial English: one way, said the show's creators, to coax a cast of mostly unknown British actors into naturalistic performances to help bridge the gap between the millennia.

"As soon as actors put costumes on they adopt bizarre personalities," said the director Michael Apted.

Mr. Apted, whose movie credits range from "Coal Miner's Daughter" to the James Bond adventure "The World Is Not Enough," was hired to direct the first three episodes of "Rome."

"That's one of the challenges for us: not making it a freak show," he said, sitting across the lunch table from Mr. Heller and Mr. Wlodowski.

Dialogue aside, the show's creators took great pains to be true to the past.

They collected a small library's worth of obscure tomes, including several on the physical gestures of ancient Romans.

In early March Mr. Apted rented a bus and with a large group of the actors traveled two hours south to the remains of Pompeii, near Naples.

"It just gives you a sense of the life: the width of a street, the size of a room," he said. "It builds a subconscious picture that's part and parcel of everything."

Mr. Bennett said that as his crew constructed fiberglass sculptures for the Roman temples on the set, they visited Rome's many museums, using actual relics as reference for the reproductions.

April Ferry, the costume designer, educated herself about the era's fashions, making surprising discoveries.

"Who knew that the Gauls wore plaid?" she said, walking among the armor and frocks in her costume shop.

She said she learned from a book on eros in Pompeii that prostitutes wore halter tops and tube tops not so different from their descendants' attire. "They were people just like us," she said.

Well, not quite. Her research also showed that Roman soldiers sometimes affixed small parts of vanquished rivals' bodies, not excluding genitals, to their battle helmets.

Ms. Ferry's costumes reproduce this, but when she tried one recent afternoon to find an example, the helmets nearby dangled only fake fingers; the faux phalluses were nowhere to be found.

There was, though, some confusion in and around ancient Rome that afternoon. Filming was scheduled to begin in a few days, and everything was coming together in a hurry. Mr. Bennett said that he had started contemplating the sets' construction in September but did not break ground, so to speak, until November.

Just four months later his Rome, covering at least five acres, has a vast Republican Forum of majestic temples fronted by mammoth columns. It has an upscale enclave of capacious villas with what look like smooth stone walls, and a downscale neighborhood with what look like brick tenements.

All of the structures were sturdy to the touch: no Potemkin facades or flimsy cardboard here.

"It has to have a certain amount of longevity, like ancient Rome," Mr. Bennett said. In television time that did not mean centuries or decades, but the course of a respectable run. Five years would do.
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Edit - or have someone come out who can do the work there
That's whats happening as we speak, I'm not there to supervise unfortunately. It's still going to be tough because of the position of the car. Attempted a tow once before, crush city on a very rare body kit, still has a 4" crack.


We'll see what happens, if anything, I'll blame the current crack on the towing company and demand restitution. Frankly i'll be happy if my car turns on again and doesn't get any major towing damage on the 2 mile ride.

Obviously it's turning out to be a nice sunny day out, mother nature constantly tortures me.
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My package is for all the hbos! But no hbo1 west in sight. I've been bamboozled!
Cable or satellite? If it's cable, what's your company and your zip code?
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yea tivo is cool, I don't really watch tv much so I havent got one myself.

I will witness the first 20 min tonight!
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God? Surely you jest. God is too busy taking, er, giving orders to GW to bother with something as insignificant as cable television.

He has delegated your problem to his able assistant, Bubba. Bubba is also in charge of utility installation schedules, the location of speed trap cops, the likelyhood that the toast will fall butter-side-down on your carpet, coffee spills on your shirt just before an important first-time meeting with a prosepctive client, and the lines at the Division of Motor Vehicle regisistration centers.



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God? Surely you jest. God is too busy taking, er, giving orders to GW to bother with something as insignificant as cable television.

He has delegated your problem to his able assistant, Bubba. Bubba is also in charge of utility installation schedules, the location of speed trap cops, the likelyhood that the toast will fall butter-side-down on your carpet, coffee spills on your shirt just before an important first-time meeting with a prosepctive client, and the lines at the Division of Motor Vehicle regisistration centers.
Bubba is busy building his on website.

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We'll see what happens, if anything, I'll blame the current crack on the towing company and demand restitution.
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I am a Soprano addict but this year sucks.

The L word sucked to [Lesbian drama on showtime]....

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