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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Feb 26 2004, 05:42 AM cutting one's hairs - requires LICENSE
Driving - requires License
picking up garbage - requires License
having children is NOT. The most important function in the society, bringing new life, does not require MINIMUM knowledge every other function in the society requires.
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cutting hair doesn't REQUIRE a license, it's just smart. Anyone can cut your hair if you let them. The license is supposed to represent the trusted opinion of an outside 3rd party
Driving license is a tax.......thats it. Oh sure they make you pass a test, but only to make you feel better about it.
I can take my trash to the landfill in the back of my truck if I so choose.... Which i do not
requiring a license to propagate the species is way to Orwellian for the vast majority of people in the world.
Originally posted by spazlabz@Feb 26 2004, 11:02 AM
ahhhhhhhhh nope not a real education by any stretch
but you could educate me specifically on the three examples listed. Never hurts to learn more
Here is my view
If you desire to cut hair commercially then you need a lisence..... not commercially then go for it
Driving a car.......Drivers licenses were originally instituted in the US as a means of generating tax revenue for the states.......you weren't always required to have either a license plate or a DL until it was realized what a tax benefit it could have on a state level. As time passed DLs were considered a way of making life safer in the US so the tests were instituted. Public safety, but the underlying motivation from the beginning was revenue for the states, thats why there is no standardize test for it. No federal DLs yet
Taking out the trash.........same as cutting hair. If you want to do it commercially...........well then..........
I will agree, if someone wishes to produce children commercially, they should be licensed and inspected on a regular basis, so you win the argument as far as kiddies go
spaz
I see your point and your accent on the COMMERCIAL issue.
Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Feb 26 2004, 07:58 AM First off, this is Oprano. Most of the ladies here are intelligent enough to protect themselves against getting pregnant if they dont want a baby. So I doubt the percentage who have had abortions is very high.
As for me, not pro-choice, definitely pro-abortion... I think you should be able to abort 'em right up to the point that they graduate, get a job and move out of the house. In fact, if they're making noise and being disruptive at a restaurant or during a movie, I think you should be able to abort someone else's child too....
LMAO Hellpuppy - between this and the raging mommy hormones comment I think I might've pulled something
Btw, just for statistical info, I've never had an abortion. I've gotten pregnant 3 times and have 2 kids, awaiting the outcome of the third.
And I was very much pro-choice until the moment I realized I was pregnant the first time - which was about 10 minutes after the sex that caused it.
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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Feb 26 2004, 12:39 PM no, I don't, as a matter of fact.
Bringing the human to the life of misery, poor education, horrors,
is irresponcible.
Some children would be better of unborn than born.
need examples?
That's in *your* opinion. And I think the same thing about some people, but you never know what will happen.
Many people thought Einstein was a worthless idiot and a waste of skin. There's tons of examples for both sides of the argument.
The thing is, though - you never know what a difference one person will make or what will become of them. People raised in the most horrible of conditions have gone on to be incredibly successful, leaders of the people, or inspirations to others, etc etc.
You just never know.
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Can not take the pill..makes me tired or nuts (even more than now..lol)
and by looking at me I get pregnant.. had 3 abortions since age 18...
and yes my own fault I use those counting methods ... you have green days and red days and egg days.... I alwasy get horny on the red days....
no regrets and no shame. It is my body and I was and am not ready to be a good mother !
Respect to those who decide different ... I think I rather adopt a child than have one..
am scared for the giving birth part...
I love kids though & love to shop for them ! the baby clothes are sooo cute .. so I cuddle with my friends baby once in a while and I have my little doggy she thinks she is my baby....
Kids are great but I feel that you have to put your kids before your own needs and I could not be a part time mother... So I decide not to have one.. at least for the comming 10 years LOL
enforcer, we eat meat like baby cows and baby chickens.... they already developped more brain than the little 6 weeks eggs when you get pregnant...
And believe me no woman wants to get pregnant and have an abortion. It's not a nice feeling and the hormons the body starts producing have to get normal again....
Let me know when the pill is available - I'll make hubby take it LOL
Originally posted by Peaches@Feb 25 2004, 03:55 PM Gee, I don't consider myself pro abortion - I'm not FOR abortions, per se, but I do think every woman and man should make that decision themselves. You need a pro choice option in there.
Pro choice & pro abortion...
I do think some people are a bit too retarded to make thier own choices however....we see that every day in certain governments ;-)
Someone made the comment that it was killing an innocent baby or something along those lines. If you take that "innocent baby" out of the womb at 16 weeks and see if it can breathe on its own, much less eat or relieve itself of bodily waste, there is no argument I can see for calling it an innocent baby when it's nowhere near that in its state of development.
There isn't much difference between a 16week and a new born. Both are TOTALLY dependent on the parent to live.
I'm personally for pro-choice. However, I disagree with abortion being used as a means for birth control. Especially when there are so many safe methods available to men and women. If a woman is using abortion as a means of birthcontrol purely because she and her mate are to damn lazy to cover the stump or take a pill, she should be sterilized after her second abortion. Problem solved...the dumb people can't have kids anymore.