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Old 12-14-2003   #1
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I want to be the first to go on record as apologizing to to those of you who lean to the left:
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Report: Saddam Tells Interrogators 'No WMD'

Citing a U.S. intelligence official in Iraq, the report said that when asked if his government had such weapons Saddam replied: "No, of course not. The U.S. dreamed them up itself to have a reason to go to war with us." The news magazine reported that the official, who read a transcript of the interrogation of the former Iraqi president, said the interrogator asked: "If you had no weapons of mass destruction, then why not let the U.N. inspectors into your facilities?"

Saddam's reply: "We didn't want them to go into the presidential areas and intrude on our privacy."

The U.S. intelligence official, who was not identified, told the magazine that Saddam had not been very cooperative and did not answer any of the initial questions directly. The transcript was full of "Saddam rhetoric type stuff," said the official, who paraphrased some of Saddam's responses.

According to the report, when asked, "How are you?" Saddam responded: "I am sad because my people are in bondage."

Both Time and Newsweek reported that after he was taken into custody Saddam had been taken to a holding cell at Baghdad airport, where other top Iraqi detainees are held for interrogation. In its report on Saddam's capture, Newsweek said that the former Iraqi leader identified himself as he surrendered with no resistance. "Don't shoot," Saddam said, according to a military source quoted by Newsweek. "I am Saddam Hussein, the president of the Republic of Iraq."
There you have it, straight from the source: There are no WMD in Iraq, and the Americans have reinstituted slavery after 150 year moratorium on the practice.

Again, apologies to the Oprano Left. I am a big enough man to admit when I'm wrong.
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Saddam responded: "I am sad because my people are in bondage."


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Please remember all of you that vote have no right to complain

You elected the people in office, they're all your fault

(If your candidate didn't win you still don't have a right to complain - you just didn't round up enough welfare, insane, homeless, chad hangers to get your person in office)

That's why I don't vote - I want to keep my right to complain



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That's why I don't vote - I want to keep my right to complain
I sort of see some false logic here...

...although I don't vote either. I don't have an opinion on politics...
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I hope everyone vote there conscience next year. If your a conservative then you should vote libertarian not republican because that is your true party.

Republicans are just religious democrats. Both spend more and want more power to the central govt. Both want to legislate you out of your hous and home (according to the libertarians)

So please all non religious conservatives SHOULD vote Libertarian
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I hope everyone vote there conscience next year. If your a conservative then you should vote libertarian not republican because that is your true party.

Republicans are just religious democrats. Both spend more and want more power to the central govt. Both want to legislate you out of your hous and home (according to the libertarians)

So please all non religious conservatives SHOULD vote Libertarian
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Hunter, you have to understand the way a lot of folks think.

> > Nobody says they are pro porn. Therefore, both parties are equal in their approach to our industry.

> > The religous right is a myth invented by liberal (i.e., non-FOX and/or radio stations not patriotic enough to play Rush Limjunkie) media outlets. They have no greater place in the Republican party than, say, the Nation of Islam or PETA do in the Democratic party.

> > When in doubt, blame Clinton.
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I understand there mindset a little more just doesnt seem hold water beyond a gloss over of the facts.

I just want to stay in biz thats all. And side by side the democrats seem to be a safer choice. Since that is the only choices we have.

I am not brain washed or stupid or whatever. just looking at history and weighing the facts.

If Lieberman won the nomination I would not know who to vote for since he is no better then the neo cons.

I wish I could vote for a strong thrid party candidate because I would
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Anyone who puts the porn industry ahead of the country as a whole must be a simple-minded person.

Whatever your ideology / party, there are a multitude of issues that are of such greater significance that it is not even funny.

Porn is not going away, anyway.

Can chicken little leave the building, already?!?!?!
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Anyone who puts the porn industry ahead of the country as a whole must be a simple-minded person.
That's pearl material.
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Anyone who puts the porn industry ahead of the country as a whole must be a simple-minded person.
Amen to that.
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Well then how is Bush helping AMERICA that someone else cant do that doesnt hire a general just to fight porn.

No on is puttin porn first to the detriment of the u.s. but it is pretty easy to remove Religion from the equation and make sure our industry doesnt feel the wrath.

Whoever thoguht that was a good post is set and not very opened minded to other possiblities. Dangerous thing to be in this industry.
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Well then how is Bush helping AMERICA that someone else cant do that doesnt hire a general just to fight porn.
I lost my decoder ring. Can you please translate that into english?
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How does Bush help the U.S. better then some other candidate?
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All I am pointing out is that comment that we shojld put our needs above the U.S. needs is stating that Bush is soo much better then anyone else for this country and I want to know how has he been better?
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Well then how is Bush helping AMERICA that someone else cant do that doesnt hire a general just to fight porn.

No on is puttin porn first to the detriment of the u.s. but it is pretty easy to remove Religion from the equation and make sure our industry doesnt feel the wrath.

Whoever thoguht that was a good post is set and not very opened minded to other possiblities. Dangerous thing to be in this industry.
Oh, there are a lot of reasons that Ashcroft is Attorney General; he isn't there "just" because of porn. He served 8 years as the AG of Missouri before becoming a Senator, so he the background for the job. He is a very "law and order" kind of guy.

That being said ... giving Ashcroft the job as AG was part of the plunder delivered to the Robertson/Falwell crowd for their help in the election. (I realize that some people around here don't know that kind of trading happens for jobs like AG, Vice President, etc., but it's true). First of all, his almost Quixote-ish defense all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court of some blatantly flawed abortion laws endeared him to that crowd. Ashcroft had been floating some trial ballons about a run himself, and he was able to generate quite a lot of support from that wing of the party.
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"Negotiating" with terrorists is a useless activity. That's what the democrats want us to do. If we are just nice to them they will be nice to us and we'll all sit around and sing kumbaya while smoking the peace pipe. Yeah right, the only thing these people understand is violence and how to use it. By taking away their money and their sponsors (Saddam) the US is moving forward in stopping them. Will they ever give up? Probably not. But they are severely crippled at this point.

This is something I wrote quickly last night. This would be a typical Democrat response to anything GW did.

George Bush Cures Cancer

Washington DC - The White House announced today that George Bush has found a cure for cancer. The radical treatment involves a potion that is comprised of pork rinds, beef jerkey, and motor oil. It has been found to be 100% effective in early trials with few side effects other than that patients suddenly lose the ability to pronounce words correctly.

Democrat Presidential hopeful Howard Dean angrily declared that George Bush had no business doing cancer research and that the cancer patients should have solved their own problems. Dean, visibly flustered, stated, "How dare he cure cancer on his own without building a coalition with our allies." He further added that if we would have just been nice to cancer it would have gone away on its' own.

French, German, and Russian leaders immediately demanded that they be given royalties for the discovery. We vehemently opposed this cancer research because we make a lot of money off of cancer. With cancer gone we have lost a major source of revenue. Sure it was deadly but we made a lot of money off of it dammit.
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i was going to appologise to ulfie for my Obcene Icq from Ukraine a month ago

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"Negotiating" with terrorists is a useless activity. That's what the democrats want us to do. If we are just nice to them they will be nice to us and we'll all sit around and sing kumbaya while smoking the peace pipe. Yeah right, the only thing these people understand is violence and how to use it. By taking away their money and their sponsors (Saddam) the US is moving forward in stopping them. Will they ever give up? Probably not. But they are severely crippled at this point.

This is something I wrote quickly last night. This would be a typical Democrat response to anything GW did.

George Bush Cures Cancer

Washington DC - The White House announced today that George Bush has found a cure for cancer. The radical treatment involves a potion that is comprised of pork rinds, beef jerkey, and motor oil. It has been found to be 100% effective in early trials with few side effects other than that patients suddenly lose the ability to pronounce words correctly.

Democrat Presidential hopeful Howard Dean angrily declared that George Bush had no business doing cancer research and that the cancer patients should have solved their own problems. Dean, visibly flustered, stated, "How dare he cure cancer on his own without building a coalition with our allies." He further added that if we would have just been nice to cancer it would have gone away on its' own.

French, German, and Russian leaders immediately demanded that they be given royalties for the discovery. We vehemently opposed this cancer research because we make a lot of money off of cancer. With cancer gone we have lost a major source of revenue. Sure it was deadly but we made a lot of money off of it dammit.
In further developments, White House Spokeman Scott McClellan clarified the earlier announcement about a Bush Cancer Cure.

"Yes," McClellan said, "it is true that the President used his spare time to develop a cancer cure. However, when we began negiotiations with Haliburton (and, to ensure competitive bidding, Brown & Root) for distribution of the product, it was discovered that the formula had been stolen by Iraqi agents and is now stored in the same secret location where the rascally Iraqi's are keeping their Weapons of Mass Destruction."
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Whoever thoguht that was a good post is set and not very opened minded to other possiblities. Dangerous thing to be in this industry.
This from a guy who has a reseller link to content in his sig.

Tell us all how much you stand to lose, please.
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All I am pointing out is that comment that we shojld put our needs above the U.S. needs is stating that Bush is soo much better then anyone else for this country and I want to know how has he been better?
Are you retarded? How old are you anyway, 12?

Taking my comment and extending it to "praise for Bush" is a stretch.
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How does Bush help the U.S. better then some other candidate?
Okay.... how's this. He doesn't... and neither do they (being the other guys).

They are all parasites, confined to demagougery and pandering and destined to erode all that is great in the US.

They cannot help it. It is the result of the two party system. A system of designed frustration.

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Just for the record.....

I was watching the news yesterday and they were interviewing Dean about his thoughts on Saddam's capture etc.... and he stated something to the effect of "It is a big victory for the Bush Administration as well as the country and Bush deserves to celebrate"... (that is not a direct quote, I am going from memory)


Nothing in there about what he would have done differently etc... actually it was the most presidential I have heard on of the dem candidates be yet....


Just imho of course.......
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Just for the record.....

I was watching the news yesterday and they were interviewing Dean about his thoughts on Saddam's capture etc.... and he stated something to the effect of "It is a big victory for the Bush Administration as well as the country and Bush deserves to celebrate"... (that is not a direct quote, I am going from memory)


Nothing in there about what he would have done differently etc... actually it was the most presidential I have heard on of the dem candidates be yet....


Just imho of course.......
Acknowleging that Dean can even sound Presidential?

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Sare, they all have their moments. ;-))

I am sure that most believe that they are doing the right thing and do not even contemplate the irony that surrounds them.

It's like Vick's immortal words about being fit for the position...

It is interesting to watch, though.
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Just for the record.....

I was watching the news yesterday and they were interviewing Dean about his thoughts on Saddam's capture etc.... and he stated something to the effect of "It is a big victory for the Bush Administration as well as the country and Bush deserves to celebrate"... (that is not a direct quote, I am going from memory)


Nothing in there about what he would have done differently etc... actually it was the most presidential I have heard on of the dem candidates be yet....


Just imho of course.......

Are you kidding me??????

Almost every Dem presidental candidate has said the war in Iraq was a mistake. If any of those bozos were president Saddam would still be living La Vida Loca.... butchering, raping, pilaging, supporting terrorist, gassing kurds.
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Mike, if that's the litmus test where are we going next and when will it stop?

Err, nevermind, i don't want to know the answer.
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Almost every Dem presidental candidate has said the war in Iraq was a mistake. If any of those bozos were president Saddam would still be living La Vida Loca.... butchering, raping, pilaging, supporting terrorist, gassing kurds.
I never said I was going to vote for him or any of them for that matter...damn...

I said it was the most presidential I had heard out of any of them....

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Furthermore...

Lets remember who it was that made Saddam the power he was....

It was the Reagan administration that first supported Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq war...

It was the "Bush the first" administration that failed to go all the way into Baghdad to get him....

The republicans made Saddam Hussein and it is only appropriate that a Republican administration go in and fix it....
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Fuck the left. They wanted Tipper and Lieberman last time around, both fought for censorship. Vote Libertarian.

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It was the "Bush the first" administration that failed to go all the way into Baghdad to get him....
Nothing pisses me off more than when people say that. The UN said free Kuwait and that's it. We did it and stopped. Now, all of the sudden the liberals of the world say it's GB I's fault because he didn't go all the way. What a bunch of hypocrits. If it wasn't for the idiots at the UN we would have taken Hussein out 10 years ago.

The first gulf war had the precious UN seal of approval and when we did what they wanted we got shit on. This one didn't have their approval and we got shit on again. So, what's the difference? This time we got the result we wanted is the proper answer.



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First off my siggy is me not reselling the content I am the primary producer.

2nd that actually is my post but since everything is picking the lesser of the 2 evils then so be it the democrats win by a landslide.

but I am sure you will note that they wont win at all but why that would be a happy thought I have no idea.
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First off my siggy is me not reselling the content I am the primary producer.
Congrats. Now why do you feel that you are a target? Are you into extreme porn, CP, beast?

You sound both paranoid and partisan, while at the same time trying to lump others (that you do not know) into your same, confined thinking.

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2nd that actually is my post but since everything is picking the lesser of the 2 evils then so be it the democrats win by a landslide.
Have you ever thought that your time would be better spent positioning yourself to capitalize on the realities in the world instead of crusading to change it through politics?

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but I am sure you will note that they wont win at all but why that would be a happy thought I have no idea.
Happy thoughts?? I don't give a shit who wins and loses. Either way, life is filled with challenges and opportunities.

I don't run around worrying about the sky falling on the porn biz.



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You didnt read all my posts and why would you In one post today I talked about the position of the govt allowing others in support industries to use us like bitches when the current administration has the attitude it does about our industry.

Visa, MC, and acacia to name a few. There are more. That makes it harder to make a decent living in this industry for me and everyone else.

I realize where the DOJ is going first. I posted that as well. They are targeting fringe elements of this industry. So they can get easy convictions. CP is not among there agenda which is wrong as well. but beastility is and so are snuff films. So not gonna say much about that. I dont carry any of that stuff never have never will.

And if your not a Bush supporter then why are you so angry when I advocate a change in regime to get America off its puratanicle (sp?) jag as of late?

This isnt a personal battle. I dont like either side either. But I also know how well I did when Clinton was in office and how I am doing now And the things webmasters are worried about are different as well. And relax you seem angry its just opining here no big whoop

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I can't wait to see what country the US is going to invade and liberate next.

Bible manufacturing must be at an all time high.
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Furthermore...

Lets remember who it was that made Saddam the power he was....

It was the Reagan administration that first supported Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq war...

It was the "Bush the first" administration that failed to go all the way into Baghdad to get him....

The republicans made Saddam Hussein and it is only appropriate that a Republican administration go in and fix it....
Saddam was getting aid from the U.S. before Reagan because he had crushed the Communist Party very quickly and made all the right noise about being anti-Communist, although it's true that we really started aiding his military when they took on Iran.

As a matter of fact, it is said that the current Secretary of Defense expressed the concern of the Reagan Administration over allegations that he was using gas against the Iranians. There is no definitive word on whether he had his fingers visibly crossed at the time.

I wonder how many of the coalition of the willing* (to accept U.S. aid in exchange for nominal support of a war that doesn't mean fuck to them anyway) can be accurately described by much of the rhetoric being used to describe Saddam? {Bonus points will be awarded to anyone who has every heard of Palau before this.} Are we going to liberate Azerbaijan or Uzbekistan any time soon?

[* Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, Costa Rica, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Japan, Kuwait, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Mongolia, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Palau, Panama, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Rwanda, Singapore, Slovakia, Solomon Islands, South Korea, Spain, Tonga, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Uzbekistan]



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I was born in Paleau seriously
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