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Old 10-30-2003   #1
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If I have hardcore penetration pictures that I put on a tour, and I edit out the actual penetration part of the picture with say a light flash or something over the penetration, is that going to be better for making sales AND for being more compliant with obscenity laws?

I mean if I have a pic of a dick going into a pussy and I flash out with a little star that says "members only" or something, is that going to bring in more sales or less, or make no difference? and is that good for the laws too or it doesnt matter?



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Old 10-30-2003   #2
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i try and stick with the "less is more" concepts. if you give away to much, then why would the surfer want to pay to see whats inside?
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i try and stick with the "less is more" concepts. if you give away to much, then why would the surfer want to pay to see whats inside?
does that mean you cencor out the hardcore part, or you cut the hardcore part out of the picture?

I mean I have pictures here of couples and groupsex that I want to use, should I just only show them above the waist, or keep the penetration in but censor it?
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Old 10-30-2003   #4
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yea throw a couple star bursts to cover, or some txt MEMEBERS ONLY and have that link to your join page
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Censoring the pics on your tour makes you *slightly* less of a target.
It also increases the tease factor - as Brand0n said, less is more. You don't want a surfer blowing his load on your tour before he pulls out his credit card.
You will, though, want to make sure that in your tour text you mention that the photos inside are completely uncensored.

Many paysites are skipping the "tease" effect now and going straight for the in-your-face hardcore on the tour, including movie clips of penetration.

If you really want to see what works better, make two tours and see how both convert (one hardcore and one censored/softcore) and then go with whichever one increases your bottom line.
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yea throw a couple star bursts to cover, or some txt MEMEBERS ONLY and have that link to your join page
You can also use creative text that won't look like blatant censoring... like if you had the phrase

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You could have part of the W in "raw" just happen to cover up the insertion, or the exclamation point.
That way the sales text is still the focus and it doesn't look like you were purposely censoring the pic.
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Censoring the pics on your tour makes you *slightly* less of a target.
It also increases the tease factor - as Brand0n said, less is more. You don't want a surfer blowing his load on your tour before he pulls out his credit card.
You will, though, want to make sure that in your tour text you mention that the photos inside are completely uncensored.

Many paysites are skipping the "tease" effect now and going straight for the in-your-face hardcore on the tour, including movie clips of penetration.

If you really want to see what works better, make two tours and see how both convert (one hardcore and one censored/softcore) and then go with whichever one increases your bottom line.
Thats what I was wanting to say
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holy mother of god, Trev and Carrie in this post and i wasent bashed? what is this board comming 2?
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holy mother of god, Trev and Carrie in this post and i wasent bashed? what is this board comming 2?
I thought your advice was spot on, bang on target

How can I bash you for that...
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I'm adjusting, kinda loosening up in my old age
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Well said, by Carrie and Trev....
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And people claim there's no one helping newbies on this board
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I am a contributor to Badpuppy and they have a hard and fast rule (no pun intended) that there will be no male genetalia displayed outside the members area on the tour. Ok, that makes it difficult, I threw together a tour, added a couple of flash files in there, and got a lot of response ffrom the flash of 2 guys kissing
was a real turn on for the surfers.

made me rethink a thing or two

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I am a contributor to Badpuppy and they have a hard and fast rule (no pun intended) that there will be no male genetalia displayed outside the members area on the tour. Ok, that makes it difficult, I threw together a tour, added a couple of flash files in there, and got a lot of response ffrom the flash of 2 guys kissing
was a real turn on for the surfers.

made me rethink a thing or two

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We're designing some tours for about 9 paysites and I want to see the tits, ass and crotch shots but I don't want any penetration to be seen (not even a finger or a dildo!!).

I want to be as hard as possible without blowing the surfers load or going against any obscenity laws..

Do you think I'm heading in the wrong direction?




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Great advice everybody. All I can add is the little cliche, rhyme to help you remember what everybody said:

"Tease 'em, don't please 'em".
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