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I wonder how they feel about women who work as "content" joining...
Reading between the lines of their mission statement, it certainly seems they would consider that beneath them.
I find that interesting because the majority of the women who have made good money in adult are both content and business. Holly's accomplishments look pale alongside Danni, Jenna or even Asia.
The ladies certainly do not HAVE to get naked to be a success in this industry, but I find it interesting that an organization like this would appear to look down their noses at their sisters who do make money teasing us poor dumb bastards with their wares....
Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Oct 23 2003, 09:48 PM I wonder how they feel about women who work as "content" joining...
There was "content" (those who had their own sites) at the ladies' luncheon in Miami. I learned more from them about that side of the business than I had learned before or since.
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thats cuz those chicks got their own WB board to piss onhttp://nakedsmartchicks.com/
Nope Peaches, writing small is just like invisible ink...really!
Slav, prolly a good idea...hairy legs are very offputting. If you're worried bout doing it I know someone I'm pretty sure will happily volunteer to help.
Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Oct 23 2003, 05:48 PM I wonder how they feel about women who work as "content" joining...
Reading between the lines of their mission statement, it certainly seems they would consider that beneath them.
I find that interesting because the majority of the women who have made good money in adult are both content and business. Holly's accomplishments look pale alongside Danni, Jenna or even Asia.
The ladies certainly do not HAVE to get naked to be a success in this industry, but I find it interesting that an organization like this would appear to look down their noses at their sisters who do make money teasing us poor dumb bastards with their wares....
I have lost count of how many times I have been insulted or have read posts where other "content" girls are insulted on sooo many webmaster boards (and yes even a few times on this board too).
I do love you guys... just wish you could be a little more consistent on who you flame sometimes.
I have done ok. I have made money showing my pussy. I have made money not showing my pussy. And no I dont have a net worth in the Millions and I have only been in biz less than 4 years.
LOL, ok I think I've said enough I'll save the rest for a good rant on my "chick board" next time I have PMS...
kisssssssssss
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Originally posted by Sabby@Oct 24 2003, 05:08 AM I dunno...
This entire thread just makes me laugh...
I have lost count of how many times I have been insulted or have read posts where other "content" girls are insulted on sooo many webmaster boards (and yes even a few times on this board too).
I do love you guys... just wish you could be a little more consistent on who you flame sometimes.
I have done ok. I have made money showing my pussy. I have made money not showing my pussy. And no I dont have a net worth in the Millions and I have only been in biz less than 4 years.
LOL, ok I think I've said enough I'll save the rest for a good rant on my "chick board" next time I have PMS...
kisssssssssss
Sabby
Hell Sabby...I actually read the thread kinda of taking up for content girls and poo pooing the pompous "business" women with attitude.
Doesnt matter...Holly isnt going to come over there to comment anyhow. Shes going to rely on her high and mighty attitude and her consulting name to get many women to join the action.
Ive said it before and Ill say iot again...how can you consult to webmasters on how to make money when you dont have one adult site? Fucking porn royalty attitude.
FWIW I voted fo your gals in the poll.
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Originally posted by gonzo@Oct 24 2003, 07:30 AM Hell Sabby...I actually read the thread kinda of taking up for content girls and poo pooing the pompous "business" women with attitude.
OMG... I can't believe I'm going to say this but.... Gonzo is right!
At least that's my POV on this whole thing... I just don't understand how it can be all about the "support of the sisters" kind of deal, and then cut out the most essential group of women that makes this industry go 'round.
I've been very impressed by many of the so-called "content girls" in this industry through interviews I've done for the magazine and just from simple introductions at shows. My interview with Jenna Jameson a few years ago totally changed my opinion on that... and then I did a series of interviews with some cam girls/amateurs - and WOW, talk about knowing the biz inside and out - these women are really intelligent & handle all aspects of running/managing their businesses... and meeting Aria @ the Klixxx booth and chatting in the limo on the way to our party during Internext... she's really a very sharp girl who knows where she's going and what she wants to do in her career.
IMHO any woman in this biz who dismisses the women who work in the content end of things is missing out on a very important demographic of our industry. I'd like to know what they think they'd be marketing or selling if these women just simply went away???
Ahhhh Sergie you Opranoids are so nice to me. I have some pictures from my trip to Amsterdam and I also had a photoshoot done while I was there. I will make a gallery and put them up in your pictures section soon.
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Originally posted by Sabby@Oct 24 2003, 04:03 PM Ahhhh Sergie you Opranoids are so nice to me. I have some pictures from my trip to Amsterdam and I also had a photoshoot done while I was there. I will make a gallery and put them up in your pictures section soon.
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 23 2003, 10:43 AM HAHA Funny..... the board niches continue.
In a way Oprano is a woman's board. I would say we have the brightest, most interesting group of ladies in the biz!
Good answer! I think so too.
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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Oct 23 2003, 07:52 AM Holly wouldn't dare to show her face on Oprano,
she is a woman and knows her place and limitations
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She'll be eaten alive here and I don't mean her clit
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Immature and not self assured women have tough time at Oprano...
Originally posted by kath@Oct 25 2003, 03:23 AM I'd like to know what they think they'd be marketing or selling if these women just simply went away???
Peaches I agree and disagree.
There are some content babes who know the business inside and out but there are a bunch who don't. Same with the webmasters
For example, I wouldn't expect any good ideas from most of PhotoGregg's models. They're just in this to model and have fun. But Shauna would most likely be able to give you an earful and some good ideas.
The amateur ladies in this biz know a bunch of tricks that many of the big-time sponsors would benefit from - like how to keep a member!! They still do old-fashioned hard link trades, they don't ignore certain traffic sources like toplists or pic posts simply because some industry guru thinks they're "old school" and "don't have enough traffic".
I was able to talk to Aria for a little while too as we were both checking out of the Westin, she's really a sweetheart and not at all struck on herself. I'd love to have a long conversation with her over dinner or something.
If Holly's group *does* disclude amateur and pro content girls, they're cutting their own throats. Besides being the *reason* for the industry, there are some girls like Jenna and even Sabby who could school anyone on certain aspects of the industry.
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Originally posted by Peaches@Oct 23 2003, 12:47 PM In Miami many, many moons ago we had a really great "Ladies' Luncheon". We got our food and drink, sat down like adult women, went around the room introducing ourselves, telling a bit ourselves, and then had a talks about what was going on in biz, where we thought it was headed, etc. I met most of the women I still know in this biz that day and it would be wonderful it could be duplicated.
However, an ongoing dues required "club" just doesn't seem needed in any way, shape or form, IMHO.
Janey and Ros lunch was the first ever event I actually went to, and it was absolutely fantastic.
I've been to several of the WIA meetings and while there are lots of things that I do and like to do with a variety of people in this business, I dont think that getting together as a group is wrong for the women in the business, provided they give the rest of the industry a clear understanding of what their purpose is and how they are going about it.
This industry is already fragmented, perhaps its time for those with a long term strategy to start thinking about alignments and so on for the next round.
To say that what Holly is attempting to do is wrong given the amount of work she does on it is just wrong.
I'm kind of in an uncommon position sometimes I think, who knows, I was a little amazed today when out of 40 golfers there was only one other 'chick' playing. But hey, she ended up on my team and we came in second, due in part to my girl dropping 35 footers in the clutch.
I don't play that guys against the girls stuff in the business tho, it just doesn't work that way and only screws things up all the way around. You work with the people you find a good fit with and the rest of them you wish them well and go on about your business.
Originally posted by Carrie@Oct 25 2003, 05:38 AM Peaches I agree and disagree.
There are some content babes who know the business inside and out but there are a bunch who don't. Same with the webmasters
For example, I wouldn't expect any good ideas from most of PhotoGregg's models. They're just in this to model and have fun. But Shauna would most likely be able to give you an earful and some good ideas.
IMHO, those that aren't on the business end (be it webmasters, content, consultant, etc.) wouldn't join in on the boards/meetings/luncheons.
I don't see a need to create a "women's only" sector, but it would be fun to have another ladies luncheon in Vegas. We managed to talk about important and non-important things quite well on our own in Miami, so I don't see a need to have a "seminar" per se and we don't even need sponsors - kicking in $25-50 each would be cool with me just to sit down for a few hours and "discuss amongst ourselves".
Originally posted by LushBoobs@Oct 27 2003, 12:34 AM What's a "content girl" ?
Girls who are in front of the camera to make part or all of their living being photographic content for a site (your own or someone else's).
You would be considered a "content girl".
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