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My goodie bag got a present the other day with this url www.womeninadult.com and a note to check it out.
So I surfed out to find ...for lack of a better term...a special interest group
specifically created for the women in the adult industry. I suppose that
this is a "professional" group as opossed to the actual women working in the industry.
In a time when this industry needs to be pulling together I guess I dont understand the need for a seperate....but equal group.
Maybe I can get Holly to come over and explain?
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In a way Oprano is a woman's board. I would say we have the brightest, most interesting group of ladies in the biz!
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 23 2003, 10:43 AM HAHA Funny..... the board niches continue.
In a way Oprano is a woman's board. I would say we have the brightest, most interesting group of ladies in the biz!
I agree with Mike ...the women that come here are pretty determined and also outspoken. Ive gone on record saying that I respect several of them...even the one that remains pissed off at me.
I know that Holly finds the thread "CUTE" ...so I guess if she dont want to comment we can have our own discussion?
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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Oct 23 2003, 10:52 AM Holly wouldn't dare to show her face on Oprano,
she is a woman and knows her place and limitations
;-))
She'll be eaten alive here and I don't mean her clit
;-)))
Immature and not self assured women have tough time at Oprano...
I dont know....I just recall her hitting me on ICQ a month back wanting to know if she could be of any assistance and help with some business aspects...so I figured Id help her out and give her a platform to draw some of the fine women that frequent Oprano into a disucssion about her new group.
Call is cross pollination....looked like she might be interested in expanding past her sister and mom.
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Originally posted by princess@Oct 23 2003, 10:58 AM I personally don't see the need to have a seperate org for ladies in the business. I think that we all work nicely together.. so why change that?
I dunno? But its a good excuse to pay dues dont you think?
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Well, I don't see anything wrong with it.............. live and let live! Must we put everything under a microscope? Are we that bored? I think you are trying to read more into it than is there.
Ya Know, the conventions are full of male bonding - so, what is wrong with some female bonding? There are many segments in the Industry who have much in common - IE: people who work in amateur, people who are involved with fetish, etc. - so why can't women get together without all the eyebrows raising? It is all about like minded groups doing biz! Nothing new there.......
Originally posted by princess@Oct 23 2003, 10:58 AM I personally don't see the need to have a seperate org for ladies in the business. I think that we all work nicely together.. so why change that?
I agree with this. Segregation, even willingly only hurts those who want to be seperate....
If you can swim in the ocean with the big fish, why go back to small pond?
If you can play in the big leagues, why go back to minors?
I would put brains, experience, and business skills of Oprano girls against ANY group, male or female!!
It must be all the photos of Serge and his Coffee Pot that keep ya'll around!
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Originally posted by Sharpie@Oct 23 2003, 11:12 AM Well, I don't see anything wrong with it.............. live and let live! Must we put everything under a microscope? Are we that bored? I think you are trying to read more into it than is there.
Ya Know, the conventions are full of male bonding - so, what is wrong with some female bonding? There are many segments in the Industry who have much in common - IE: people who work in amateur, people who are involved with fetish, etc. - so why can't women get together without all the eyebrows raising? It is all about like minded groups doing biz! Nothing new there.......
No microscope here...I just started a thread and hoped she might come in to do some shameless plugs....I can only assume she has declined the invite.
Besides Im all about female bonding....as long as we get pics!
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I also realize that Gonzo is trying to do two things - 1. Get new people and topics involved in the board and, since this has been somewhat contaversial, giving the group a forum to talk about it....
95% of the contact you have with people in this business is genderless anyway. Its a nick on a board or on an ICQ message. There's no need to have anything specifically for men or women. Everyone is based on their merits anyways (like on a board) so having fractured groups doesnt make any sence.
Originally posted by Sharpie@Oct 23 2003, 11:18 AM I also realize that Gonzo is trying to do two things - 1. Get new people and topics involved in the board and, since this has been somewhat contaversial, giving the group a forum to talk about it....
It's all good !
uhhh yeah thats what Im trying to do. Thanks Faye.
Dont worry...we got plans for ya too!
Its not all good...
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Originally posted by Sharpie@Oct 23 2003, 11:18 AM I also realize that Gonzo is trying to do two things - 1. Get new people and topics involved in the board and, since this has been somewhat contaversial, giving the group a forum to talk about it....
It's all good !
Sharpie, I am excited about your show in SD. I think its a good location, and a good time. How is the facilities?
I think it may be time to support indepedant shows.... AVN in my opinion is only concerned with gouging the industry, and promoting the old line video/magazine giants to the detriment of the rest of the internet young turks.
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 23 2003, 11:23 AM Sharpie, I am excited about your show in SD. I think its a good location, and a good time. How is the facilities?
I think it may be time to support indepedant shows.... AVN in my opinion is only concerned with gouging the industry, and promoting the old line video/magazine giants to the detriment of the rest of the internet young turks.
Hell it's past time to support 'em.
Internext needs real competition - with changes focused on the webmaster rather than AVN's pockets.
Don't mean to get off on a tangent.
There's only one board in the business that I can think of where being female is a detriment, but that one is only for shits and giggles anyway.
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Geeesh..... screw you :-) I used that phrase before Kaiser was born.
But, out of board courtesy, I will refrain from using it..... (maybe)
The accomodations at the Hyatt in San Diego are average. Not as nice as those at the Westin in Hollywood - but, a big step up from Secacaus ... hahahahaha None of the newer hotels on the water would have us, or regular rooms started at over $200 at that time of the year. The hotel is in a PRIME location and has been refurbished. They are in the process of installing high speed internet this month, in many of the rooms and wireless in the convention space.
There will be many opportunities to be involved in prime marketing at the show, for as low as $1,500. We have tried to make it affordable for even the small companies.
Originally posted by Sharpie@Oct 23 2003, 11:46 AM Geeesh..... screw you :-) I used that phrase before Kaiser was born.
But, out of board courtesy, I will refrain from using it..... (maybe)
The accomodations at the Hyatt in San Diego are average. Not as nice as those at the Westin in Hollywood - but, a big step up from Secacaus ... hahahahaha None of the newer hotels on the water would have us, or regular rooms started at over $200 at that time of the year. The hotel is in a PRIME location and has been refurbished. They are in the process of installing high speed internet this month, in many of the rooms and wireless in the convention space.
There will be many opportunities to be involved in prime marketing at the show, for as low as $1,500. We have tried to make it affordable for even the small companies.
Sharpie, I think Oprano and PureCash want to help you in making this show a great success. We have had our differences, but its time we pull together. The external threats we face are much more important then our trivial bickering.
Think of some ideas on what we can do to help, and lets get together next week and figure something out.
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Originally posted by princess@Oct 23 2003, 07:58 AM I personally don't see the need to have a seperate org for ladies in the business. I think that we all work nicely together.. so why change that?
I agree... the only thing I've ever seen come out of any of these "women's only" type meetings/gatherings is a male bashing session - and THAT helps NO ONE.
Women in this industry fare better than women in other industries, possibly because of that "genderless" opportunity we have to prove ourselves online and build our reputations before we meet people in person. Of course there are always going to be chauvanists (on both sides of the fence... we women can be "catty" - lol), but as a whole I think we're very well off in this biz.
It's all about reputation and respect. Two things that you have to EARN on your own before you can expect them - respect is not a "right." The only women I've known in this industry that had bad reputations or didn't earn the respect of their peers, got that way because of their own actions or behaviors. Just like the men. We all know certain males in this industry whom we don't respect. It's a two-way street... it works for both genders.
Nothing against WIA or any other off-shoot board/gathering/group directly, but in general - I'm really getting sick of how separate we've all become. Our community has become segregated into so many different boards, so many different micro-communities - it's really become a pain in the ass to stay in touch with people and keep people informed about important issues & industry topics. IMHO we used to be much more "on the same page" about these things back when there were only a small handful of boards. Today - it's gotten WAY out of hand. To further segregate the industry in ANY way IMO is a big mistake.
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Well, I have put in my two cents..... and I have to go do yard work.
I am not a member & probably won't be. I am not much of a joiner - but I did go to one meeting. After that meeting, I was able to have good conversations with 3 different gals that I had never had the opportunity to set down with before. They were all prominent in their organizations, and I thorughly enjoyed the opportunity to get to know them better. I hope they enjoyed getting to know me better, and what I am about. It' was 'all about biz....
I see good things in both - having a place for just the girls and having our normal coed hangouts. The problem is, when any women *do* try to get together for some conversation that doesn't consist of flirting and dares to show your tits, the men always try to barge in.
From what I understand, there was an attempt to have a women-only seminar in Pheonix and it was overrun by an annoying gay man who insisted he be admitted.
Gay != Female.
But let's face it - if the guys got together and made a male-only club, *most* of the women would fly off of the handle. Just look at the male-only golf club in Georgia. There are plenty of women-only golf clubs around, but women just *had* to go sticking their noses into that one. Why?? It's hypocritical bullshit. ("We can have women-only clubs but you CANNOT have men-only clubs... it's sexist!!")
I do have to question the women that would attend these WIA events but not others. It surprises me that Sharpie met some women there that she hadn't met before. Given Sharpie's ability to be damn near everywhere that anyone would be hanging out, it makes me wonder if these women don't normally attend the coed gatherings.
And if that's the case, then perhaps they're not cut out for this industry. You can't go around expecting everyone to make exceptions for you just because you've got indoor plumbing, nor try to run a successful business while avoiding those with outdoor plumbing.
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I dont see the point in segregation either. I will not be joining the group and it wont hurt my business. If those gals find some sort of strength in being together and being so formal, all the better for them.
I never did get along with the cliques female OR male. I dislike any group that would systemically tell me who I should be doing business with or associating with. I dont need a leader thanks
Reminds me of the feminist groups that came along at a time when women needed leaders to speak for them. The danger is feminists started to tell women who they are and what they will do or say. Fuck that. I am me.
Carrie, back in the 80s i saw this video on MTV and turned my head this way and that way. I stepped closer and backed away. Cocked (no pun intended) my head and pronouced to my best friend
"I'd do her, she's kinda cute."
He died laughing, it was Boy George!
fast forward
I come to Oprano, meet a pleasantly intelligent female on the board (dont really meet her but...you know) so she puts up this avatar......
and I turn my head this way and that, move closer to the screen, then back away..................
I think you see where this is going and it AINT FAIR!!
Originally posted by Carrie@Oct 23 2003, 10:27 AM LMAO Spaz!!
I dressed up as BG once in school, hehe.
I think he's actually been spotted over on GFY. Take a look and tell me what you think: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.p...threadid=188928
LOL if that's him, thats him from the 80s. I had the pleasure of seeing him on VH1 last night (marathon of 80s shows) and he has changed. Much rounded face, but he is still a sexy bitch who lurks deep in my surpressed homoerotic dreams. LOL
Now here is something strange, based on this conversation alone. You would all die of shock if you ever see me in person.
In Miami many, many moons ago we had a really great "Ladies' Luncheon". We got our food and drink, sat down like adult women, went around the room introducing ourselves, telling a bit ourselves, and then had a talks about what was going on in biz, where we thought it was headed, etc. I met most of the women I still know in this biz that day and it would be wonderful it could be duplicated.
However, an ongoing dues required "club" just doesn't seem needed in any way, shape or form, IMHO.
Originally posted by Peaches@Oct 23 2003, 12:47 PM In Miami many, many moons ago we had a really great "Ladies' Luncheon". We got our food and drink, sat down like adult women, went around the room introducing ourselves, telling a bit ourselves, and then had a talks about what was going on in biz, where we thought it was headed, etc. I met most of the women I still know in this biz that day and it would be wonderful it could be duplicated.
However, an ongoing dues required "club" just doesn't seem needed in any way, shape or form, IMHO.
Peaches -
I know just the luncheon you're talking about. I was supposed to attend (that was my first ia2000 ever) but *somebody* stuck me in a booth that day.
I'd heard that it was fantastic and I've kicked myself for years for not insisting on attending. From what I was told it was very low-key and an excellent environment for meeting other women in the biz. No male bashing, no cliques, no clubs, no Ya-Yas... now that sounds like something I would attend.
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