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One benefit of the VISA requirements is that celeb webmasters (ie webmasters who are well known but have no traffic,etc etc) have got to become extinct.
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 30 2003, 06:58 PM
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Most influential #5 (this year) - Acacia
How about least influential?
1.) DJ
That was a very influencial post
:-)
Brad,
One benefit of the VISA requirements is that celeb webmasters (ie webmasters who are well known but have no traffic,etc etc) have got to become extinct.
Define celebrity webmaster and give a few examples.
How can one be any kind of webmaster and not have any traffic?
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That was like watching a volleyball set at the net....
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Not fair listing Acacia, Mastercard, Visa, the IRS, Ashcroft!
They or their counterparts will always be in the picture. You might as well throw in PayPal, too. I thought we were making up lists of powerful individuals in the porn business, not credit card companies and government agencies! Doesn't take a rocket scientist to list the above bad guys.
If Kimmy were still employed by CCBill, she would be listing them.
There are many webmasters who make money, but money alone doesn't make someone powerful.
If I were still at CCBill I'd be working with my clients to get them into Visa and Mastercard compliance while insuring they were making the most money they possibly could.
Don't confuse your self-confessed love of lists with anything I do sweetie.
The only list I care to see any more is the one that consists of deposits into my bank accounts.
And for the record, you are wrong again.
Visa, Mastercard, Acacia and Ashcroft will not always be here. If you were around in mid-99, you might as well have said that DMR would always be here.
I was told it was a list that would make me back more than $17k. At this point, it is not even about the $17k or the list. I do not even mention the $17k anymore. In the end, $17k will be the least of KB's problems.
It is amazing what his "friends" say about this lost soul privately.
Originally posted by confucy@Sep 30 2003, 07:10 PM
There are many webmasters who make money, but money alone doesn't make someone powerful.
OH, and while I have my evil eye turned away from Mordor and in your direction, I will tell you now that is the most farcical statement anyone has ever fallen victim to believing in this business.
Originally posted by confucy@Sep 30 2003, 07:10 PM Not fair listing Acacia, Mastercard, Visa, the IRS, Ashcroft!
They or their counterparts will always be in the picture. You might as well throw in PayPal, too. I thought we were making up lists of powerful individuals in the porn business, not credit card companies and government agencies! Doesn't take a rocket scientist to list the above bad guys.
If Kimmy were still employed by CCBill, she would be listing them.
There are many webmasters who make money, but money alone doesn't make someone powerful.
Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 30 2003, 07:14 PM I was told it was a list that would make me back more than $17k. At this point, it is not even about the $17k or the list. I do not even mention the $17k anymore. In the end, $17k will be the least of KB's problems.
It is amazing what his "friends" say about this lost soul privately.
Brad...
I should have qualified that by saying it wasnt a set up or anything.
I just wanted to know. Shit. I dont know any spammers that would pay 17K for an email list.
If you had told me I could have repoed one from Mr Cash and sold it to you for 2K less. Right now 5K would suffice.
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Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 30 2003, 07:30 PM It was not a "spam" list, I would only buy a list of verified porn surfers. "opt in"
Many people here have spent $50k+ on an email list. So $17k is nothing.
I trust your judgement on this.
Personally I have no use for an opt-in or a even a spam list.
But I do remember Mr Cash telling me all his lists were opt in.
Mebbe you got to opt in to get paid in full too?
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Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 30 2003, 10:30 PM It was not a "spam" list, I would only buy a list of verified porn surfers. "opt in"
What would you define as an opt in list brad?
the way i see it ... if you are buying a list from someone else, those on the list didn't opt to receive anything from you ... 'opt in' doesn't mean 'only requested to be removed 10 times' or 'opted in to a list at 1 site therefore opted into the list of anyone who purchases it' ...
opt in means that someone visited YOUR site and requested information on YOUR services - double opt in is where they confirm this request ... not to split hairs, but you have been very outspoken on the issue for quite a long time - its just surprising to see your attitude change so much on a suject you've judged plenty of others on ...
CJ, I am a whore. The business changed, I changed and adapted. I also spoke out against cross sells. The model for sucess has changed, and continues to do so.
Actually there are responsible ways to mail. I am not going to go into it, or educate. But needless to say, I was quite conservative, and you will not see Microsoft or AOL coming after me. No spoofing, no games, etc.
Actually there are responsible ways to mail. I am not going to go into it, or educate. But needless to say, I was quite conservative, and you will not see Microsoft or AOL coming after me. No spoofing, no games, etc.
ahahahahahaha right back onto your high horse again, Brad.
Now you are a "moral" spammer ahahahahahaha
And Damn you Dravyk!!!! ;-)))
I wanted to say Kaiser.
And it has made me feel better.Thanks me old mate
BTW its October 1st on the East coast I believe ;-)))
Last edited by Nickatilynx at Sep 30 2003, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 30 2003, 10:52 PM CJ, I am a whore. The business changed, I changed and adapted. I also spoke out against cross sells. The model for sucess has changed, and continues to do so.
Actually there are responsible ways to mail. I am not going to go into it, or educate. But needless to say, I was quite conservative, and you will not see Microsoft or AOL coming after me. No spoofing, no games, etc.
Brad, Nick beat me to it ...
>>Nawww your morals did :-))
BUT ... i like this non-hypocrite person ... can he come out and play more often?
Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 30 2003, 07:14 PM I was told it was a list that would make me back more than $17k. At this point, it is not even about the $17k or the list. I do not even mention the $17k anymore. In the end, $17k will be the least of KB's problems.
It is amazing what his "friends" say about this lost soul privately.
Hey Brad...
Maybe D$ was right. Get ready to be dazzled by pure salesmanship from the one the only KBizzle!
I dont know any spammers that would pay 17K for an email list.
There have been several lists offered to me for far more than that that i declined.... and i regret it to this day. A good list is worth a LOT.
Spam sells.
The question remains...can you take the heat?
Not me bubba.
The future of spam looks bleak...and that includes how all of it no matter how you mask it...opt in...double opt in...Russian...Canadian...Curaco...Grand Caymans etc.
The best thing that will happen will be for some laws to appear on the books that are enforceable.
Those who have been spinning it and making fat cash off of it hopefully invested their money wisely.
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Originally posted by gonzo+Sep 30 2003, 11:58 PM-->
QUOTE (gonzo @ Sep 30 2003, 11:58 PM)
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Originally posted by confucy@Sep 30 2003, 09:34 PM Ask PK and GK. Ask anyone who has done business with him. Technical wizards are very special people.
confucy, I'd like to ask GK about how much did he make/lose supporting Lew and his Paypal quest
;-))))))
Originally posted by confucy@Oct 1 2003, 11:29 AM Buff, you look very powerful in your movies!
Good editing!
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Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Oct 1 2003, 09:22 AM
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I nominate several people for the MOST BIZARRE PORN WEBMASTER LIST:
I'd nominate you to that list confucy , but you are not a webmaster ;-)))
Come on Nick...you know she shoulda been on that powerful list cuz shes a Lufe Ford wanna bee. Come to think of it has anyone ever seen em in the same place?
The rhetoric and industry pertinance cetainly do seem to "jive" with each other.
BTW last I check Forest didnt have up a site currently.
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