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Old 09-12-2003   #51
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Kimmy, you and Brad are both from the old school: "I like to see my name in print, good or bad news...doesn't matter, just mention my god damn name!"

I am being a good confucy, and I won't be going down that path that leads to drinking and fucking indiscrimately. We all have our weaknesses, now don't we Kimmy?

Take me as I am, sweety, or forever ignore me! Your little swipes at me are more boring than my posts. Chill out.
Why would I ignore you, it is, and always has been, much too easy to push your buttons, even though I keep saying that I do it all the time.

Trying to make something out of nothing is pretty funny on your part, and your little tiny digs are pretty weak these days, though your newfound obsession, and attempt to identify with Brad, is quite comical at best.

I don't do meds, I don't do drugs, hell you can ask Brad that, he'll tell you. And fucking in one's own bed with the person you live with is hardly indiscriminate now is it...

Why didnt you mention your birthday was this week sweetie, I'd have sent you a Yahoo card.
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Old 09-13-2003   #52
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KK, the last thing I would do is announce my birthday on the internet. What's so great about being born? I will leave birthdays to you and Kremen. The two of you need excuses to gather your friends around you. I

Now if you are referring to the birth of *confucy*...that's a whole different story. I will celebrate that birthday. That would be something akin to having a yearly party for Mikey Mouse or Batgirl....characters made up by their bi-polar creators.

By the way, you can always send me a belated card. confucy@errata.to

Never thought I was identifying with Brad, but then we do have several things in common.

1. both banned from GFY
2. both attacked by KK
3. both drive sportscars
4. both have caught big fish in the month of Sept
5. both have seen the dentist for some beauty work
6. both preparing for weddings
7. both hate the Texas heat
8. both get bored easily
9. both play on the boards
10. both have successful paysites
11. both are followed by KK
12. both are loved by Serge
13. both have great content
14. both love the outdoors
15. both own guns
16. both have zero tolerance for board idiots
17. both answer to the tunes in our heads
18. both have fought with FM
19. both are concentrating on non-porn businesses
20. both are bi-polar according to JR's definitions

How's that, KK.
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Of course it's still funny as hell that when I tell you I'm pushing your buttons you still can't stop me from pushing them.



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I don't care if you pick on him...just makes you look jealous & un-professional.

If you have made so much money then why are you concerned w/ a small time guys like Gary?
lolololol......

You dont even bother reading the thread before you get on and tell us what we should and shouldn't be talking about... do you...

from me earlier in the thread:
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as far as Gary reading the boards, so what.. I am nothing in the adult business..lol... I have a few galleries up, etc... But that was a learning experience...

I still work a nine to five job in mainstream and atribute very little of my income to the adult net... IN fact, most of the time my expenses far outweigh my income, as it does with any startup.....
So... It's not me making all the money... and I am not a professional... I'm just a small guy trying to do some programming and learn from the guys that actually made money doing this stuff... I don't count Kremen among them.

If you don't care if I pick on him why did you come in to defend him ??

Probably cause he told you to go in and take care of it. You come in and instead tell us how we should be spending our time and what we should and shouldn't yak about....

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AGAIN...Why do you care?
I care because I have many friends in the business... and many of them are newbies and your man Gary puts out bad info.... If a newbie thinks Gary really is someone who made his fortune in the adult side of the net, they might listen to him.... It is important that they don't if they want to be successful...

The adult world and mainstream are two different worlds... What works well in mainstream does not necessarilly transfer over to the adult side... Newbies have to learn to market their product, how to make the sale... If they follow many of the rules that Gary laid out in that article, they will fail...

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No prob...I'm out...that kind of pompous attitude is the only reason that I posted...to let you know it sucks.
Bullshit..... yuou started by very rudely trying to clear up the aussie thing.... If you wanted it cleared up, either you or Gary should have jumped in politely and said that you wanted to clear up any misconception about the comments he made.... you didnt do that though.. You came in with "who said.....etc"... If you had bothered to read the thread before jumping in, you would have been able to follow where that conclusion had come from. But you didn't bother....

Just so you know, if you had come in nicely, instead of on the attack, I wouldn't have bothered with my several posts "reviewing" sex.com.

Then you went on and tried to tell us how we should be spending our time and what we should be talking about.... Most of the folks that post here have made a bunch of money in this business, I am an exception as I am a newbie more or less and I am in it for totally different reasons... They do not need you telling them how to spend their time or what they should talk about.... and it was very fucking pretentious of you to come in and do that...


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It's 41 posts too much for such a ridiculous topic.
Well its at 52 posts now and I happen to feel it's a great topic. You have 18 posts here, but this isn't GFY, we don't judge on number of posts, we judge on the quality of the posts and the contributions the poster makes to our community.... So far your contribution has been a whole lot of spams looking for traffic, 1 actual reply to a real topic and a couple of "Gary is just so great and wonderful".....

Gary is a newbie to this side of the business world.... It's a totally different game and he should learn how it is played before trying to sit up there and tell folks what the rules should be....

Gary, if you are reading this... Get on over to vnwr.com... Tell Voltar that I sent you... He'll show you how to set up a site to actually make some bucks on the adult side......

Ullimike..... When you can post your own thoughts instead of the crap that you think makes you look good in front of Gary, then come on back and maybe we'll play with you.....








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I care because I have many friends in the business... and many of them are newbies and your man Gary puts out bad info.... If a newbie thinks Gary really is someone who made his fortune in the adult side of the net, they might listen to him.... It is important that they don't if they want to be successful...

The adult world and mainstream are two different worlds... What works well in mainstream does not necessarilly transfer over to the adult side... Newbies have to learn to market their product, how to make the sale... If they follow many of the rules that Gary laid out in that article, they will fail...
Just adding this to say...

I overstated this a bit... There are some good common sense things that Gary put in that article...

Yes, you should always stay within the lines of legality, I do not condone illegal content, illegal marketing tactics or any of that... and I would not argue that anyone should do any of the more unethical things that the cockholsters do...

That is pure common sense...
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Sarettah, threads aren't staying on subject this week. KK and I have our own thread within your thread. It must be the full moon. Hope you don't mind.

I love sex.com topics. I learned new things today. We need the Cohen friend who was a big poster on the non-threaded Oprano. Jack was his name, I think.

As I said somewhere this week, I would love to interview Cohen. I don't like what he did, but he is a true SOCIAL ENGINEER. Mitnick likes to think he is the expert at convincing people to believe him, but if you talk to him and hear his voice, he sounds like a stuttering kid. His voice goes up and down, and he is not believable. The only thing Mitnick has going for him is that he doesn't give up. That is why he was happy late at night typing in password after password trying to break into someone's system. Mitnick never forgets a phone number once he has dialed a it. The same thing probably holds true once he has punched your SS# onto the computer keys. He never forgets it, and he uses it against his enemies.

Cohen also has a good memory, but he is very lazy, and he hires yes-men to do his dirty work. Wasn't it JoeE who interviewed Cohen on dokk's system before Cohen scurried away like a river rat?

YNOT asked their userbase what they thought of YNOT Bob having Metzger (the KKK ass) on their radio show. Most of the users were against it. I wouldn't want to hear Metzger unless he talked about porn. Cohen talks about porn, so I want to hear him.

Why not track the rat down, Sarettah! Find him and get the reward from Gary, but before you turn him in, set up an interview on one of the porn radio shows. But please, dont use sleazybear from Netpond. He has improved, but he is no match for the big guys.

Nitey Nite, I'm off to watch Letterman...a good Indiana boy who finally got his GF pregnant!
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If you have made so much money then why are you concerned w/ a small time guys like Gary?

very simple, Sherlock....

watching other people STUPIDITY makes us feel better about our shortcomings and Gary's list is one of the longest in the industry.
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http://ynotnews.ynotmasters.com/issues/091...1103/page3.html

This is probably the most entertaining article I've read since Tjay wrote his article on how to properly recruit and shoot models and publish your own content. That was about a month before he ended up going to jail for fucking and photographing an underage runaway that he picked up at the bus station or some such shit.
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KK, the last thing I would do is announce my birthday on the internet. What's so great about being born? I will leave birthdays to you and Kremen. The two of you need excuses to gather your friends around you. I

Now if you are referring to the birth of *confucy*...that's a whole different story. I will celebrate that birthday. That would be something akin to having a yearly party for Mikey Mouse or Batgirl....characters made up by their bi-polar creators.

By the way, you can always send me a belated card. confucy@errata.to

Never thought I was identifying with Brad, but then we do have several things in common.

1. both banned from GFY
2. both attacked by KK
3. both drive sportscars
4. both have caught big fish in the month of Sept
5. both have seen the dentist for some beauty work
6. both preparing for weddings
7. both hate the Texas heat
8. both get bored easily
9. both play on the boards
10. both have successful paysites
11. both are followed by KK
12. both are loved by Serge
13. both have great content
14. both love the outdoors
15. both own guns
16. both have zero tolerance for board idiots
17. both answer to the tunes in our heads
18. both have fought with FM
19. both are concentrating on non-porn businesses
20. both are bi-polar according to JR's definitions

How's that, KK.
pleeeeeeaaase don't compare yourself to brad confucy! I was just starting to like you!!!!
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Why not track the rat down, Sarettah! Find him and get the reward from Gary, but before you turn him in, set up an interview on one of the porn radio shows. But please, dont use sleazybear from Netpond. He has improved, but he is no match for the big guys.
Nah... I'm staking my fortune on finding Osama...... Pays better.....



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Gary. . . . nothing? this is sad... why don't you like us

Maybe the people at GFY know!
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Gary. . . . nothing? this is sad... why don't you like us

Maybe the people at GFY know!
Opti, we arent on Gary's reccomended reading list....

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16. Keep in the “gossip” loop of the industry.
Sites like YNOTMasters.com, AVNOnline.Com, Netpond.com and GoFuckYourself.com should be read every day. BoardTracker.com and AllOfEm.com are good ways to keep up with happenings as are YNOT News and the AVN newsletters. Yes, keeping in the loop does also include reading Luke Ford on SetGo.com.
You know as well as I do that you can learn more about this business from Luke Ford and GFY then Oprano..... Gary says so, so it must be true...



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Sarettah, Gary has said many times that he reads the boards, including Oprano, but it doesn't make any sense to him to enter the fray and be attacked.

But I think the real reason Gary didn't mention Oprano is because he is afraid Serge would kick his butt.
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Sarettah, Gary has said many times that he reads the boards, including Oprano, but it doesn't make any sense to him to enter the fray and be attacked.

But I think the real reason Gary didn't mention Oprano is because he is afraid Serge would kick his butt.
puuhhleeze!

I don't kick butts of "jack brownfields"
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Sarettah, Gary has said many times that he reads the boards, including Oprano, but it doesn't make any sense to him to enter the fray and be attacked.
If Gary himself came over and posted, I probably would not attack...

Unless he tried to come on like a bulldog type....

I went after ullimike because of the way he entered the thread, not because he was from sex.com.....

I am sorry that I am not impressed with sex.com.....

I am much more impressed by many of the folks here and what they have done.... MikeAI's stuff is first rate, Danny,Ulfies, Vicks project is very cool.. Ant and Voodo have always impressed me.... CJ is wonderful and knowledgeable and purve is a great site... KK always shows that she quite desrves the excellent reputation she has... even Brad impresses the hell out of me.... If I have left anyone out, I am sorry.. These are the ones whos work annd effort I have noticed... I do not mean to denigrate anyone else here, I just haven't seen what you got yet

I am always extremely impressed over at VNWR with the stuff Voltar does and the kind of work he gets out of us newbies... Some wonderful stuff coming out of there on a daily basis...and most of them are doingwhat they do on a shoestring... Using one single domain on shared hosting, but still making cash as they move up to bigger and better... Those are your future movers and shakers in this industry....

Lensman impresses me, even if I think that most of the folks posting on GFY are probably highschoolers.... GFY and adult.com are both impressive endeavours.....

These are the folks that are making things happen.... I am sure there are others who are not quite so open about what they are doing... People laying low and raking in the bucks with their various projects....

edited to add....

oh yeah, sometimes you impress me too Confucy.... It is a brave person who comes on out, takes her beatings and still hangs in there.....





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Sarettah, Gary has said many times that he reads the boards, including Oprano, but it doesn't make any sense to him to enter the fray and be attacked.

But I think the real reason Gary didn't mention Oprano is because he is afraid Serge would kick his butt.
Gary would do better to take the risk and explain himself here.. I will get some free time soon and I'm sure Ulimike has better things to do than chase me around the web putting out fires.

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Gkremen: Bunch of Assie (good guys) - scammed by running programs and not paying affiliates as well as double billing
Is this the only response you have enough respect to give gary? You are obviously too spineless to back up your own "advice" even to your own employees!! Although, Ulimike does seem to think it makes some sense.. if you insist on hiding behind employees, maybe he can explain why this justifies advising newbies to shun doing business with Australians??

No clarification? No apology? I can only be left to assume you stand by your words. What the hell really happened to you to make you all Bitter toward Australians gary? Did Babenet scam you? If so why not back up your words and hold them to account yourself. Or were those words just empty bullshit too?

I'm going to start calling you Viagra soon Gary.. you are starting to give me one raging hard on.
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i keep reading that Gary doesnt know how to run properly sex.com. I'm wondering the ones that have this impression if they have analyzed his site model and have alternative, more profitable ones in their mind. I believe most of them do not.
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i keep reading that Gary doesnt know how to run properly sex.com. I'm wondering the ones that have this impression if they have analyzed his site model and have alternative, more profitable ones in their mind. I believe most of them do not.
the model isn't the problem.. the slur against Australians is what I don't like.

If he had said "Shun the scamming Canadians".... well that would be different
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