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http://www.technologymarketing.com/mc/cont...tent_id=1899661
It seems that it is not going all Accia's way. Join up with www.impai.org and fight. Quote:
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the impa is the wrong way to do this in its entirety give acaica a focused fight against 1 organization and this gives them the abilty to conserve money and resources Mutliple fronts= bleedd them dryyyyy The best stratagy for a war and this is no different -------------------------- copy and paste from another thread ------------- "My approach is to get some deals done and get some goodwill," says Rob Berman, Acacia's senior vp of business development. "I don't want to end up in the bowels of legal hell." --------------- "We're only asking two percent of the revenue from streaming media firms, and we are willing to give price breaks to those who sign up early on," says Ryan, who adds that this royalty structure compares favorably with the massive fees often demanded in similar situations. ----------------------- the last thing Ryan wants is a series of legal battles that could take years before Acacia sees any real revenue. And that's where the marketing of patent rights comes in. --------------------------- Acacia also decided that alleged infringers would sign up more quickly if it looked as if everyone else were jumping on the bandwagon --------------------------- For Ryan the situation is clearly frustrating. "These companies will end up spending more on litigation than if they just paid the fees," he fumes. ------------------------------- There are several offensive moves to make just by what this guy says in the article a United front for the industry is the WRONG way to do this imho |
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I think you're missing an important element here forest. They may be a united front for some people, but most importantly they are gathering prior art to prove that the patent is not valid.
And the cowboy cry of "bleed em dry" is nice and all, but if you get sued do you really want to spend 500k-1mil fighting them?
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Paul,
1) Forest read the article more careful than you did 2) the whole issue was already addressed yesterday, where have you been? IMPLA is giving ACACIA what ACACIA wants, one entety to fight with and avoiding "legal hell" I say giving them "Legal Hell" they do NOT want is a proper way to go...
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but seems like ACACIA is more concerned with "Legal Hell" than Forest with $30 in his pocket which still gives him and 1000's other "forests" to start preventive claims in a small claim courts all over the world ;-))
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Look at what THEY are afraid of ""My approach is to get some deals done and get some goodwill," says Rob Berman, Acacia's senior vp of business development. "I don't want to end up in the bowels of legal hell." what is more a bowel of hell than 1000 law suits being answerd by 1000 different parties which fight would you want to wage if you were acacia 1 front? 1000 fronts? you decide |
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who says you need 500k -1m? small claims court files for 50.00 bucks here precedent in 1 court can go A LONG WAY here fuck the united front united Information is Great!!!! fight them on ALL fronts in EVEREY court in the world Hoop you know what laywers charge for trial time |
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"Make EVERY day as a MISERABLE day to your opponent" and we all know where this landed Cohen: Fugitive in Mexico... K>I>S>S formula at it's best ;-))
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We need both IMPAI and individual suits
With a united front from IMPAI and pooling financial resources to have patent attorneys research and (hopefully) invalidate Acacia patents and individual suits to stretch and exhaust Acacia resources and (maybe) Acacia will realize they overstepped when going for the perceived "low lying fruit" Acacia thought the adult industry would be. Also possibly winning many default judgments against Acacia sets precedences and adds to the IMPAI case It's gorilla warfare and a sophisticated attack to wear down and dismantle the enemy |
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I think you summed it up BEST!
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shhhh dont give the acacia reader any more info than needed
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I would agree with you Vick.
I just think that a point is being lost here. The cowboy tactic of suing in small claims court is fine. Do it. Have fun with it. But unfortunately it's game theory: What is best for the individual is to contribute to impa and hope you dont get sued. What is best for the group is for everybody to file claims. Small claims are like throwing a pebble at the bee hive. It only works if you have a LOT of pebbles, so you better hope that all your buddies are really going to file a claim at the count of 3. And more importantly you better hope that the bees dont get mad and single you out. Last edited by Hooper at Aug 14 2003, 10:00 AM
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im no laywer BUT if you get prescedent in 1 court does that not help the overall battle??? even if it IS small claims?
get 10% of the industry to do this how many people/ companies do you think that is 100-200-500? Last edited by Forest at Aug 14 2003, 10:03 AM |
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Although I will say that that "sophisticated" claim really pissed me off.
Pop Quiz: Who's more sophisticated? a - A handful of multimillionaires who started with nothing, built and developed technologies while at the same time building successful business models based on cooperative competition, extensive re-use and re-packaging of existing content, all while building recurring income? OR b - a handful of idiots who couldnt make a dime during the dot com boom despite being well funded who then hired some lawyers to go bilk other people of their money? I vote for A. Were the Huns more sophisticated than the romans??? Afterall, didnt the romans know that being attacked by idiots was just "part of being a roman" ??? Amazing the conceit and disdain this jackass shows for us.
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