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Originally posted by Monk@Jun 29 2003, 09:39 PM and 50% of the people find this out the hard way.
Exactly - which is why I don't believe in getting married. If you don't GET married, It alleviates all talk of prenups.
However, I'd love to see the stats on people that got divorced that didn't have a prenup, and would have been better off if they had. From what I can tell, with a good (read: expensive) lawyer, most prenups are tossed out the window as soon as the divorce hits.
>>You are not saying you believe 100% that your marriage will fail... you are just saying that realistically, not all things go as you hope they will
then people should stop getting married just because its the thing to do ...
its obviously not the solution to a good relationship between 2 people, especially when its justifiable to have a prenup.
If 2 people love each other and enjoy each others company, why do they need to get married at all to prove that? The wedding is usually the point where it starts to go downhill - nothing left to look forward to except some screaming brats.
And yes, before anyone else says it, there are exceptions to every rule - i'd say its 1/50 couples who have a chance at a fulfilling life together - and just because a marriage doesn't end in divorce doesn't mean its a happy union.
Fuck marriage
Its the biggest crock of shit our society has come up with. wtf does an overpriced white dress & some throw away table decorations have to do with happiness?!
Ok, a Will is a bad example. Maybe insurance is a better example. Or maybe think of it as kind of an "extended warranty" for the marriage. Whatever...
I just dont buy the argument of a pre-nup is planning for failure and not making a lifetime commitment. It's just a matter of being prepared for any eventuality. And with a divorce rate of 50%, it makes good sense.
Dont get me wrong. I very much believe marriage should be a life long commitment. My grandparents just celebrated their 65th anniversary, and my parents are working on number 44. Rest assured if I ever get married, it is my intention to take that "til death to us part" line seriously.
Afterall, a Smith & Wesson is cheaper than a pre-nup anyway....
You guys don't have common-law spouse laws in your countries that basically deem a person to be your spouse once they have lived with you for a certain # of months?
Originally posted by Monk@Jun 29 2003, 10:52 PM You guys don't have common-law spouse laws in your countries that basically deem a person to be your spouse once they have lived with you for a certain # of months?
GA used to have a common law marriage law, but took it off the books several years ago.
My Dad has lived with my "Stepmother" for....gosh....15 or so years. They wear wedding rings, own property together and even go to marriage counseling - but never got married. They've done the power of attorney thing and wills and that's all they need. They laugh and say they're waiting to see if it's real. Maybe someday they'll get married. They'll probably be on vacation somewhere and decide on it, knowing them. But when you're older and kids aren't going to be conceived, there's not a huge reason to do it, IMHO.
In all fairness, getting divorced has always been my fear - not really getting married. But I'm weird anyway.
Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Jun 30 2003, 12:05 AM We all need to marry eventually just so we'll have someone to wipe the drool from our chins and change our bed pans when we get old.
I'd rather spend my time getting rich so I have a cute male nurse to wipe the drool
Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Jun 30 2003, 01:05 AM We all need to marry eventually just so we'll have someone to wipe the drool from our chins and change our bed pans when we get old.
Besides CJ's excellent suggestion, the reason you HAVE kids is to make yourself a burden on them when you get older.
Like I tell my son, I fed you and changed your dirty diapers, you shall do the same for me. Frankly, I think he already has the numbers of several nursing homes on speed dial.
Originally posted by Vick@Jun 30 2003, 11:14 AM I always thought having a pre-nup was planning for failure
hhmm.. Well a wise man once told me
"Agreements are made in the Good times for the Bad times"
and just quietly I recon he was right...Divorce rates up there as one of those bad times.
Unfortunatily once emotions enter the negotiation, often logic and good sense depart.
Remember the old Uni adage "No one plans to fail, but many fail to Plan"
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Jun 27 2003, 12:58 PM I like point 3...
"Be a little gay.............."
ahahahahahahahaha
- Damn maybe that's why I am!
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life sure was directed back then eh? man did his thing, woman did her thing and never the two crossed until the man decided he liked the look and feel of pantyhose....lol
06-29-2003
in fact, i think it should be a clause in the prenup 
h34r: Too fucking late ... 
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