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Old 06-16-2003   #1
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Fact? Fiction? Or maybe a bit of both???

Although most are garbage, some are quite compelling and DO make you think twice about what is really going on.....

This one is quite lengthy, but provocative nonetheless..... h34r:
http://www.theweeklyinformant.com/tablecontents.htm

I'm sure this thread will keep us entertained for the week! lol
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Can you summarize, please?
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This particular theory suggests that Zionists within the US government and Isreal are behind it all.....
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I'm sure this thread will keep us entertained for the week! lol
i think you are setting yourself up to keep us entertained for weeks.
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This particular theory suggests that Zionists within the US government and Isreal are behind it all.....
Is there a "Mad Libs" book for conspiracy theories? They all look alike.
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Originally posted by Colin+Jun 16 2003, 08:02 AM-->
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I think it was Al Gore, Al Bundy, McGeorge Bundy, Janet Reno. Janet Jackson, Jesse Jackson, Jesse Ventura, the Masons, the Royal Order of Moose, International Workers of the World, Symbonese Liberation Army Alumni Club, the International Communist Conspiracy, Inc., George Bush I, George Bush II, Geore Forman, the Foreman of Local Pot Pickers Union 666 (we all know them union folks are radlib terrorists), the Committee to Re-Elect the President, Kula Fran and Olie North, Trilateral Commission, Warren Commission, the ghosts of Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman,

and it was all coordinated by Col. Mustard in the pool room with the pipe wrench.



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I thought the psychological 'Lemming' profiling was interesting. Here is an exerpt:

This research paper will likely be wasted on many lemmings. For lemmings, denial is a basic psychological defense mechanism used to not only shield themselves from unpleasant realities, but also to reassure themselves that they will still fit within the acceptable range of opinion held by their peer group. At all costs, their beliefs must always be on the “right” side of the issue and conform within the boundaries of their lemming peers. Lemmings simply cannot bear the burden of responsibility, or the social discomfort, which comes with thinking independently. They are capable only of repeating that which they hear from the talking heads and “experts” on TV. Lemmings will not only resist efforts to change their misguided beliefs with all of their mental energy, but they will usually attack anyone who dares to question their myths. Lemmings are absolutely terrified at the thought of being labeled as an "extremist" or a "conspiracy theorist". Ironically, the very same lemmings who instinctively ridicule all "conspiracy theories", are always the first ones to blindly swallow the most ridiculous conspiracy theories imaginable when the government and media present them!

We can try to open the closed minds of lemmings and free them from their self-imposed blindness, but it’s not easy fighting the forces of Pavlovian conditioning and human nature. The chains of ideological conformity have too strong of a grip, and breaking them is a difficult task. With the limited resources at our disposal, it is next to impossible to compete with the media lemming-masters. Lemmings have been conditioned to obediently grovel before the “authority“ of their media and government masters. For this reason, the lie of the emperor is always believed before the truth of the peasant. Nevertheless, some of us must make the meager attempt, and thus lay the foundation upon which the truth might one day rise again.

This is not to suggest that those who have been misinformed are lemmings. Anyone can be fooled if the information they are receiving is inaccurate or incomplete. There is no shame is being misinformed.But, to stubbornly persist in the erroneous thinking, even after the irrefutable evidence and logic have been presented, is the essence of lemminghood.



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I think it was the french....
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http://www.theweeklyinformant.com/stfch23.htm
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The only logical deduction that a reasonable and objective person can arrive at is this: The 9-11 attacks, the anthrax murders, the Bali bombing, the African embassy bombings, and numerous other foiled terror plots, were planned, orchestrated, financed, carried out, and covered up by the forces of international Zionism.
I'm not sure about the rest of the conspiracies but I doubt the members of Jemaah Islamiah currently on trial over the Bali Bombings and who admit to doing it, have much love for Zionism.

Freedom of speech is one thing but that article looks more like a straight attempt to incite racial hatred to me. (I admit I only read bits of the summary page) the bold points he states as facts proving his case are at best wild accusations, at worst straight up lies.

But speaking of the Iarael/Palestinian issue, I saw someone post the other day something to the effect of "Hamas will run out of leaders before Israel run out of rockets" ... I thought about it later and have wanted to say how much I disagree. I think the point was that force was better than negotiation and maybe I am taking the line out of context. Just wanted to get that in somewhere. ahhh.. that must be a brainfart.. it feels much better out than it did in.
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PD - I would agree with you if you didn't have that great undeniable American institution Al Bundy in your list
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I saw someone post the other day something to the effect of "Hamas will run out of leaders before Israel run out of rockets" ...
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correct...
those "hamas leaders" are fuckin' WHORES!!!

it's OK for 16 years old cretins to become mortyrs, and it's NOT ok for the leadership to join the ranks...

they are cowards and ONLY understand the language of force.

I lived with Palestinians in the same room when I was a student,
I KNOW their culture and their beef and modus operandi.

Dead hamas leader is a great hamas leader
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Hamas doesnt want peace, they dont seem to care about improvong life for Palestinians, just wiping out Israel. they are eveyones enemy.. but I bet there is a eager line of "martyrs" waiting to keep hamas going long after israel has bombed the place flat, if not run out of rockets. Hamas is David in this battle.

I'd like to see a few rockets and a swift solution... but my bet is that this is a bad strategy for Israel. From down here the USA doesn't look as squarely behind Israel as it always has been... The reporting here makes it look like the US really is more interested in a final solution than totally appeasing Israel for the first time I can recall.

If the Israeli's aint careful they will find themselves with the USA pressuring them for the obvious fair outcome, a Single State solution.. I bet they think the current 2 state model they are shitting on with these overkill rocket attacks looks pretty good if that happens.. If the real intent was simply to wipe out Hamas surely a more subtle strategy at a time peace is possible would have been chosen.

Uncle Sam has more than one middle east piper to pay now and Israel is just making it as hard as possible for it's old allie imho.. and I don't get why American's agree with Israel doing this?!? Don't you see it as Israel saying "Fuck You" to the USA by choosing such provocative action when America is publicly calling for restraint and a committment to the "road map for peace" plan the US drafted? That is how it is being reported in the rest of the world.

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Yesterday George Bush's envoy to the region, John Wolf, held talks with the Israeli foreign minister, Silvan Shalom, in an unsuccessful attempt to convince the Israelis to end their policy of assassinating suspected terrorists.
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I'd like to see a few rockets and a swift solution... but my bet is that this is a bad strategy for Israel.
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oh really????

than how come Hamas negotiating NOW and before that they flat denied ANY acceptance of "road map"?

c'mon, Opti, smell the coffee...
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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jun 17 2003, 04:04 PM
I'd like to see a few rockets and a swift solution... but my bet is that this is a bad strategy for Israel.
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oh really????

than how come Hamas negotiating NOW and before that they flat denied ANY acceptance of "road map"?

c'mon, Opti, smell the coffee...
Maybe they're running out of good suicide bombers?
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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jun 18 2003, 07:04 AM
I'd like to see a few rockets and a swift solution... but my bet is that this is a bad strategy for Israel.
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oh really????

than how come Hamas negotiating NOW and before that they flat denied ANY acceptance of "road map"?

c'mon, Opti, smell the coffee...
hehe You twist and turn like an eel.. ;-)

I didn't realise they were negotiating! But I live in hope you will be correct on this outcome.




Fuck suicide bombers.. someone should definitely blow those bastards up
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