What The Heck Is This? - Page 2

RawAlex · 02-19-2003

ethics (used with a sing. verb) The study of the general nature of morals and of the specific moral choices to be made by a person; moral philosophy.

mor·al Of or concerned with the judgment of the goodness or badness of human action and character

No morals, you have no ethics.

Alex

02-19-2003

It's about time, we as a community, start to recognize what surfers TRULY want and are looking for. I think its great!

*KK* · 02-19-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper@Feb 19 2003, 11:14 AM
Nick. We received a phone call for you. Not sure how they got our phone number ;-)

http://personal.clickfeel.com/funshit/spam.wav

Punks! Useless in this society! ROFL!!!

Alex, a lack of morals does not guarantee a lack of ethics. It is entirely possible for a serial killer, for instance, to have a complete lack of morals, indeed even to lack an understanding of morals, but to have an excellent work ethic.

Nickatilynx · 02-19-2003

Alex,

LOL. I don't have to try to be evil...I just AM!

That wav,Hoop, was like a minor one for us LOL.

To me ethics and morals are the same.They both get in the way of making money!!!

T-Rav · 02-19-2003

This is a very interesting discussion.

I have tried to look at this from a surfer's prospective as well as a webmaster/business perspective.

From the surfer's point of view: It obviously looks too good to be true. If something is too good to be true, it probably is. So, if you're still brave enough to give it a try...read the fucking small print. If you are satisfied that it is worth it after reading the small print then sign up and you get what you pay for (or got paid for, as the case may be).

From the webmaster/business point of view: As Hooper so eloquently put it, "grab the surfers by the ankles and shake em upside down til all the money falls out..." If this tactic (the site in question) gets more signups/money then so be it. I don't see anything inherently wrong with this "marketing strategy". I don't feel responsible for people that don't understand what they are getting into. It is the surfer's responsibility to read the fine print and make an educated decision to move forward.

This is the "Gym Membership" mentality. I got burned the other day by my soon to be ex-wife. She signed up for some fucking tanning salon that dinged my fucking checking account for $15.97/month. I have quite a few auto-withdrawals out of my checking account, all of which I know where they came from. This shows up one day. I had to track down who it was to, then send a certified letter to the corporate office, and then after receipt, a 30 day cancellation was in place. Holy shit...I got fucked right in the ass...but it was my wife's fault...not the tanning salon...in my opinion.

Everyone out there that is crying fraud, scam, or other such nonsense...is the "gym membership" mentality also a scam? hell yeah, but you have to take personal responsibility when you knowlingly walk into a "scam". Is it fraud? Nah, I don't think so...

sarettah · 02-19-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Sword@Feb 19 2003, 12:39 PM
I am constantly shocked by the amount of my check transactions that come back Insufficient Funds for little $19 charges and the like. I mean who doesn't keep $19 in their checking account??

lololol... Spent a year in South Dakota one afternoon at a little tiny out of the way tittie bar... So cool, they took checks..... Next month I got a call from my bank asking about the 250 bounced checks for one dollar each

As for morals:

What's moral is what feels good after having done....

What's immoral is what feels bad after having done.....

02-19-2003	#51
RawAlex Members $100 for every ImLive sign-up Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,036	ethics (used with a sing. verb) The study of the general nature of morals and of the specific moral choices to be made by a person; moral philosophy. mor·al Of or concerned with the judgment of the goodness or badness of human action and character No morals, you have no ethics. Alex __________________ Let's go to the edge of disaster Push the pedal and go a little faster Let's slam into a wall at ramming speed Let's go to the edge of a mountain Jump off and lets start countin' Hit the ground and tell me if it bleeds

02-19-2003	#55
T-Rav Members Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 248	This is a very interesting discussion. I have tried to look at this from a surfer's prospective as well as a webmaster/business perspective. From the surfer's point of view: It obviously looks too good to be true. If something is too good to be true, it probably is. So, if you're still brave enough to give it a try...read the fucking small print. If you are satisfied that it is worth it after reading the small print then sign up and you get what you pay for (or got paid for, as the case may be). From the webmaster/business point of view: As Hooper so eloquently put it, "grab the surfers by the ankles and shake em upside down til all the money falls out..." If this tactic (the site in question) gets more signups/money then so be it. I don't see anything inherently wrong with this "marketing strategy". I don't feel responsible for people that don't understand what they are getting into. It is the surfer's responsibility to read the fine print and make an educated decision to move forward. This is the "Gym Membership" mentality. I got burned the other day by my soon to be ex-wife. She signed up for some fucking tanning salon that dinged my fucking checking account for $15.97/month. I have quite a few auto-withdrawals out of my checking account, all of which I know where they came from. This shows up one day. I had to track down who it was to, then send a certified letter to the corporate office, and then after receipt, a 30 day cancellation was in place. Holy shit...I got fucked right in the ass...but it was my wife's fault...not the tanning salon...in my opinion. Everyone out there that is crying fraud, scam, or other such nonsense...is the "gym membership" mentality also a scam? hell yeah, but you have to take personal responsibility when you knowlingly walk into a "scam". Is it fraud? Nah, I don't think so... __________________ Travis

02-19-2003	#52
georgeTHR Guest Posts: n/a	It's about time, we as a community, start to recognize what surfers TRULY want and are looking for. I think its great!

02-19-2003	#54
Nickatilynx Banned Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 15,115	Alex, LOL. I don't have to try to be evil...I just AM! That wav,Hoop, was like a minor one for us LOL. To me ethics and morals are the same.They both get in the way of making money!!!