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and your analogy is pretty accurate  what scares me though, is you agreeing with Sergey hahahahahahaha© |
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IS AVN really going to lower prices? I cannot see that happening....
They are one greedy group, and what is really fucked up about it - is their service SUCKS ASS. So not only do they over charge, but they also nickel & Dime you to death, then they never deliver what they promise, and make things way to difficult.... What I am amazed at is how THEY stay in business.... There needs to be some major competition for them....
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Mike (AI),
How do you REALLY feel?
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Colin I completely agree with you about there coming a time when you may need to outsource. Wearing all of the hats is empowering and ensures that you *can* take over a task if need be, but it can also hamper the growth of your business because one person can only do so much.
Here's a question... if you guys are all working harder, what are you doing now that you weren't doing in '97? If the growth of your business is the reason for you working harder, that's to be expected. There's more to be done when running an affiliate program than there is to be done when you're just an affiliate. But if you're doing the *same* thing that you were in '97 (which I doubt any of you guys are) and working harder now to make the same amount of money... then perhaps it's time to hang around with some fresh blood who doesn't do things the same way your "network" of contacts do. Perhaps you've been stuck in a rut too long and need a fresh perspective or some ideas. Speaking of which - Colin, you said you didn't hear any new ideas this convention, but KK said she did. Did you hang around with any new people and give them a significant amount of time to discuss things with you, or did you hang out with the same folks you usually do and just give a brief "hi" to everyone else?
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I DID hear some new ideas. Pretty good ones. From old-timers, no less.
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I don't think most of us are really working harder. The boards get all quiet on the weekends now but many of us used to work weekends and nights. The business is more 9-5 now than it ever was. I think the difference was that if you worked twice as many hours in 1996 you made twice as much money - because there was so much room for expansion, because we were starting from comparatively nothing and because the industry itself was in such a massive growth stage it was fairly common to have months where one made twice as much money as the month before. More work meant lots more money.
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The thing about new ideas is that almost all of them fail. The Holy Triumverate of a new idea is
the idea itself, it's execution, and it's acceptance. After getting an idea past the conceptual drawing board, the idea still has to be effectively brought to market. After that, it still needs acceptance by either or both surfer and webmaster. Most new ideas aren't good to start with and will still fail after all that. If I were a newer webmaster I would consider partnering with an established industry entity in order to promote the "next big thing-amabob" and to obtain enough resources to keep it alive.
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Humm.. anybody else up for that ?? Inter who ?
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There is no money in that! 
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Billy, I wrote and asked Missy at AVN if the aisles were going to be wider in florida, if there would be better accommodations for smokers (I call that sun-baked patio the Smoker's Broil), and if there would be any other significant changes/improvements to the show from last year.
She just got back to me after returning from Internext/AVN and crushed my hopes: "There aren't any significant changes to the show in Florida. Aisles will remain the same and because the facility is non-smoking...everyone will have to smoke outside."  Like I said in Sharpie's Cybernet thread - same mistakes, just on a smaller scale.
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Colin, you're right, my apologies.
I was referring to this line that you wrote: "I didn't learn anything new as far as the state of the industry while in Vegas. " When remembering it and replying, what I remembered was the "I didn't learn anything new", not the "as far as the state of the industry". Sorry, my bad!
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Serge, lol - yes I would have especially "shaved my moustache" for that purpose haha
Booths: prices dropping? will that get new webmasters to the show? Are there any new webmasters? The days of easy money is gone so, that leaves 2 kinds of people in our bizz: the hard workers & crooks Noticed a lot of "fake webmasters" using their lists of creditcards into our systems....funny thing should be something for a new subject... We always here about sponsors shaving while there is also a BIG problem in our bizz!!! Fake WM with huge lists of stolen creditCards!!! who solves this problem gets the big buck !!! Who is first to collect? :grrr:
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, but I doubt ANYONE has any ability to allow smoking within a venue. 
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