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Okay, just got the "we didn't need that tax cut, we needed to make american safer"... and Bush stumbled and looked lost.
Bush has been waffling, avoiding the questions, answering what HE wants to talk about, not even attempting to answering what he is asked. Looking VERY evasive.
Anybody?
Alex
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Bush is really looking like he forgot his cue cards...
Alex
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but but but... I have... had... will have...going to have... the right respons-answer in a minute or soon or something like that.
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Man, it's really difficult to watch him. He is getting annoyed, and he is starting to run in circles.
Alex
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Originally posted by cj@Sep 30 2004, 05:30 PM this is like watching a high school debate!!!!
Only on the right hand side of the screen CJ... There's a fine line between a silent pause for effect and just standing behind the podium without a clue how to respond... lol
"SPEAK, MOTHERFUCKER, SPEAK! FINISH YOUR FUCKING THOUGHT YOU GODDAMNED IDIOT," I yelled at the television when Bush said, "If Kim Jung Il doesn't listen to the international community then... uhhh... [10 second lapse]... uhh..." and then I lost track of his derailed train of thought.
Kerry is a colossal disaster who has no more understanding of what the real threats are or how to deal with them than my 2 year old nephew does of 6th Century Japanese Literature. But Bush has the brainpower of a trained monkey who can't follow a train of thought for more than five or ten words including articles (a, an, the) -- I can't believe one of these two morons will have authority to launch nuclear missiles.
Oh dear Jesus. This country is fucking done. Done. Finished. Kerry would say he'd smear shit on his chest if he thought it would guarantee him a victory in November, and Bush wouldn't be able to provide a coherent, fluid response if you wrote it for him and he could read it off a dummy card.
"Mexed Mixages." Does this motherfucker have Slyxdexia?
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
I want out. I really want out. It's time for a fucking revolt. Who's with me? Who among you will stand by me as I take this country back?
At first, Bush was doing mediocre and Kerry was doing shitty. Bush made him look silly. But then Bush started losing his train of thought and started that mumble mouthed shit that shows the inability to think his way out of a wet paper bag, and Kerry started getting better. At this point I'd score it like this:
1-100 scale.
Speaking Ability
Bush: 7
Kerry: 40
Policy
Bush: 55
Kerry: 13
Making me want to expatriate
Bush: 95
Kerry: 90
Total Debate Score
Bush: 6
Kerry: 11
Conclusion: The thought that one of these men already leads the free world and one of them is guaranteed to lead it for the next 4 years makes me wonder if we couldn't do better randomly picking one US Citizen's name out of a hat instead of having an election.
And Alex, try some unbiased analysis for a change. Everyone knows you'd suck Kerry's cock if he smiled at you. Try being objective.
Anyone who votes for either of these men is part of the problem.
I don't think this is going to change anything. Bush is still going to win.
There was no homeruns for Kerry.
It was pretty boring...
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Originally posted by pushpills@Sep 30 2004, 05:48 PM Bush is doing well. Flipping alot of shit back at kerry....a few awkward pauses but....he's making kerry look worse than he's making himself look.
he doesnt have to try to make himself lok like an idiot. he has condoleeza rice and dick cheney for that
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Sep 30 2004, 08:37 PM Buff ... please. Go. Leave now. Do not let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
I don't think Kerry "hit a home run". I don't think that this specific debate will change many people's minds.
If Kerry can come across as well in all three of them, however, it could have an impact.
Eat a dick.
Kerry missed a lot of opportunities -- why didn't he stuff "Mission Accomplished" down Bush's throat? It's dumb and dumber and idiots like you choosing sides.
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Originally posted by Buff@Sep 30 2004, 09:49 PM America hater? I love America, that's why I hate politicians -- they are fucking up this country. I bet in junior high you had a lot of guys telling you eat a dick, and I'm sure you complied.
Yes, Buffy, there were lots of people in Junior High School who were challenged enough in the vocabulary department that the smartest retort they could come up with is "eat a dick." I felt sorry for 12 & 13 year olds that could do any better than that; as I have suggested before, a private-school educated ADULT who can't do any better than that ought to find himself an evil trial lawyer and sue to recoop his tuition., because he obviously didn't get much for his money.
As far as whether I complied or not, don't see how that matters one bit. However, if it makes you feel more macho to challenge me on that score, you go, girlfriend.
Regarding the rest of your claptrap, I've heard it all before. Kennedy (then LBJ) was taking God out of the very same classrooms he was putting the niggers into. Roosevelt was going to turn America into another Soviet Union. Andrew Jackson was going to destroy America by letting commoners vote - which is I suspect a big objection of yours, actually.
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Buff, you can be so "junior high" at times. Part of my personal preference for Kerry is a deep distrust (bordering on hatred) for Bush and everything he stands for. It might be hard for you to understand, but Kerry is saying exactly the things that can get the rest of the world to get back in the game. It might be beyond your understanding how important this is, I know that the old "shoot 'em all and let allah sort them out" mentality runs deep. But in the end, you get much more done when the gang is with you than you do by yourself.
As for the debate itself, I think that I would score it about 70 - 30... Bush looked confused, spent way too long on the defence, and kept answering the same things over and over again. Those things might play well on the evening news, but sound bites don't make a debate. I suspect his team is going to give him a HUGE makeover before the next event.
I also think Bush was very transparent in his attempts not to answer direct questions. Again, that sort of redirection might play well in sound bites, but put into context, it really looks evasive.
Kerry needs to learn some shorter words. He tended to get a little wordy.
Alex
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Originally posted by RawAlex@Sep 30 2004, 09:53 PM Buff, you can be so "junior high" at times. Part of my personal preference for Kerry is a deep distrust (bordering on hatred) for Bush and everything he stands for. It might be hard for you to understand, but Kerry is saying exactly the things that can get the rest of the world to get back in the game. It might be beyond your understanding how important this is, I know that the old "shoot 'em all and let allah sort them out" mentality runs deep. But in the end, you get much more done when the gang is with you than you do by yourself.
As for the debate itself, I think that I would score it about 70 - 30... Bush looked confused, spent way too long on the defence, and kept answering the same things over and over again. Those things might play well on the evening news, but sound bites don't make a debate. I suspect his team is going to give him a HUGE makeover before the next event.
I also think Bush was very transparent in his attempts not to answer direct questions. Again, that sort of redirection might play well in sound bites, but put into context, it really looks evasive.
Kerry needs to learn some shorter words. He tended to get a little wordy.
Alex
But you trust Kerry, right? Because he's an honest politician.
Buff, I would expect the leader of the free world to be able to answer simple questions. I would expect him to at least make a passing attempt to answer questions as asked.
I saw little of that in Bush. Instead I heard "flip flop" and "change position" over and over. Few ideas, attempts at zingers, and a bunch of "umm" and "ahh"...
Kerry stayed pretty darn composed, and I think won the night handily.
Alex
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Originally posted by RawAlex@Sep 30 2004, 11:51 PM Buff, I would expect the leader of the free world to be able to answer simple questions. I would expect him to at least make a passing attempt to answer questions as asked.
I saw little of that in Bush. Instead I heard "flip flop" and "change position" over and over. Few ideas, attempts at zingers, and a bunch of "umm" and "ahh"...
Kerry stayed pretty darn composed, and I think won the night handily.
Alex
Bush demonstrated that he's one-trick pony who speaks so poorly in public that he deserves to be mocked for it.
Kerry demonstrated a notion of foreign policy so naive and unrealistic that he deserves to be mocked for it.
I can understand if you consider one of these dipshits to be less worse than the other and therefore want to choose the lesser of two evils as apparently PD the junior high fellator does, but the idea that you would actively support one of these assclowns is nauseating.
My opinion and Buff's opinion have some how looped so far in the opposite direction they have merged
If I had the option not to vote, I wouldn't, because the 'voting for lesser of 2 evils' has made a joke of democracy. The elections are won through corporations & which puppet can get the most funding from the control freaks in Texas.
Here's were Buff & I differ *Phew* ... whereas he wants to pick up some guns and go blow up random people until he hits the right one, I would rather smell the flowers than blow them up.
All I can say is thank god I was born into a country that at least pretends to have a democracy (australia & america are both the same in this respect) & that has food and water ... instead of the Middle East, Africa, China, or any of the other places humans are lucky to live to the age I am now or experience basic human rights.
The best thing we can all do with our lives is to get on with living it, enjoy the time we have as much as we can and leave the shit to the assholes. Anything else is disrespectful to those who aren't so fortunate.
09-30-2004
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