2MuchMark... Naughty Naughty

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

And besides, "newbies" do not know that they are "newbies", so having the word "newbie" there really doesn't serve any purpose.

So you changed it to "anyone" which instead of raising the bar actually lowers it.

Anyone!: This is your chance to jump into the game with a web-ready online solution; learn the ropes of the video chat world without breaking your bank account by renting our system and paying easy monthly payments. Stop anytime, or buy it out! Need site designers, advice or traffic? Our partners & recources program consists of industry pros ready to work with you!

For some reason I am reminded of my highschool days.

During my junior and senior years I worked as a lifeguard for a local health spa/gym.

The day I quit was when I watched the head salesman try to sell a membership to a retarded quadrapalegic who happened to be passing by the front of the place (we were in a strip mall).

[Mediaguy]

Originally Posted by sarettah

The day I quit was when I watched the head salesman try to sell a membership to a retarded quadrapalegic who happened to be passing by the front of the place (we were in a strip mall).

We draw the line at retarded quadrepalegics, please...

And like I said this is something we're trying... though I saw it's been changed... it's the weekend, so I can't just stomp over to Mark's desk and be incendiary. i'll see how this thing is on Monday....

And if we have any nebie prosect maybe I'll just send them to this thread...

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Mediaguy

We draw the line at retarded quadrepalegics, please...

And like I said this is something we're trying... though I saw it's been changed... it's the weekend, so I can't just stomp over to Mark's desk and be incendiary. i'll see how this thing is on Monday....

And if we have any nebie prosect maybe I'll just send them to this thread...

lolol. The quadrapalegic may have been somewhat harsh. ;p

[sarettah]

Just so you know why I started this thread.

I am asked somewhat often, as a programmer, how much would it be to do a custom cam solution. Depending on what was being asked for, my quotes have been anywhere from $10k to several years and several hundred thousand.

I usually suggest that they go seek out a product that they can license. In the past I have often told them to talk to DrGuile or Colin to see what they can offer or point them towards sponsors that I know of that offer simpler private label solutions that might work.

Because of the threads about 2much and the Shellee/2much thing and the Couchsitter/2much thing I became aware of 2much.

So, I was checking their site to see what their product actually was which means I am mainly looking at marketing text and what specs the site offers up upfront.

I saw the newbie pitch on the front page and decided to ask about it (call you out on it is a bit strong when all I said was naughty naughty...lol). I contacted Shellee and asked her to please ignore the thread so that it would not do what most threads about 2much do (and this is caused by both sides Mark/Mediaguy and Shellee) and deteriorate into a rehash of that stuff.

Thank you Shellee for staying out. Thank you Mark and Mediaguy for resisting the temptation to take it in that direction (it only took one mention from me, I appreciate that).

So, I got my answers. Thank you.

I am still considering whether I will point any future inquiries your way.

[2MuchMark]

Hi again,

Thank you for considering our platform!

If you like, we can setup a demonstration of each of the various components of the system to show you how it all works.

Then, If you like what you see and would like to refer a customer our way, we could then setup a system for them completely free of charge to do a "real" test for say, 30 days or so.

This way you will discover what all of the strengths of the LiveCamNetwork system are. Your customer will then know if its worth buying or not, and you will know if you want to referr additional customers our way or not.

Let me know what you think.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Hi again,

Thank you for considering our platform!

If you like, we can setup a demonstration of each of the various components of the system to show you how it all works.

Then, If you like what you see and would like to refer a customer our way, we could then setup a system for them completely free of charge to do a "real" test for say, 30 days or so.

This way you will discover what all of the strengths of the LiveCamNetwork system are. Your customer will then know if its worth buying or not, and you will know if you want to referr additional customers our way or not.

Let me know what you think.

Technical stuff would come after I reached a conclusion about the type of people running it.

I am not sending anyone to people I don't trust, so I am just trying to sort through all the info at this point to see which category you guys fall into as far as I'm concerned.

BTW, somewhat often is not a real big number. I would say that last year I had 20 or so inquiries about cam solution or webcam related scripts and such. Of those, one would have been a huge project. a couple or three of medium projects and the rest were small or could have been solved by sending traffic to existing programs or opening an ifriends account ;P

[2MuchMark]

In that case, let us earn your trust. Our contact info is at the bottom of this post. Contact us anytime to arrange a demo, or send us any questions you have (or post them here if you prefer) and we will reply as quickly as possible.

Have a good Sunday!

[2MuchMark]

While I thank you for the input, pasting a warning on our front page similar to the "This is not a magic wand" post discussed earlier would not be the best sales technique in my opinon. The FAQ page located at http://www.2much.net/faq.php already covers this.

Besides, Most people who are already in adult, are already doing their own thing and not necessily interested in expanding into online chat. So to attempt to target Only "Experienced Adult Webmasters" might severely limit our ability to sell, and may even tend to block out "new" blood and ideas.

And don't forget, we are not limiting the use of our application to the adult arena.

Changes to the new http://www.2Much.net site will no doubt continue to be tweaked based on opinions offered by others, and our own product and service updates.