SheleeHale...a serious question for you

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

LOLOLOLOL.....my first adult project was wildly successful after two months. Four months later I quit my last career. In fact at two and a half months, I watched in total amazement my first 150K just whizz into the old bank account. And then the profits started to roll in after we started taking it seriously. I am not bragging, Shellee, but this is where you crash and burn. Many of us had that experience and you don't have a fucking clue about that. I would never have lasted 11 or 18 months in this business without a huge profit motive. It just ain't that much fun. Sheeeeiiiit.

Oh, and btw, that was when 150 K was serious fucking money.....

Sounds like it was competitive with Microsoft stock. What was the project? You mean the 20,000 shares I got in 1996 did not do that? Or what do I actually not have a clue about. Today without working I make 4 times that just sleeping and I am not trying to brag but just wondering what you think I don't have a clue about because it sure isn't making money.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Sounds like it was competitive with Microsoft stock. What was the project? You mean the 20,000 shares I got in 1996 did not do that? Or what do I actually not have a clue about. Today without working I make 4 times that just sleeping and I am not trying to brag but just wondering what you think I don't have a clue about because it sure isn't making money.

Silly girl. You asked the question. Your apoplexy is becoming apparent as your veneer wears thin.

"and the colored girls go do be do be do be doobedoo"

[softball]

and like I said, it was a common story back then.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Silly girl. You asked the question. Your apoplexy is becoming apparent as your veneer wears thin.

"and the colored girls go do be do be do be doobedoo"

What veneer?

I had some success, I took off time to raise a family, I talked about some ideas I had for three years and then a year ago attempted to test the waters and see if I could actually do what it took to implement them after so much time off.

I have not even began to build the dream I have only starting to put together the pieces of the foundation and I am sorry but I did not catch the name of the adult company that you run?

I am sure you are a super busy CEO, probably too busy to mess with productive advisement for someone new. Right now all I know is that your really good and starting Shellee Hale threads and bashing me for my thoughts and opinions.

At this point that is all I have seen you be good at.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

...I am sorry but I did not catch the name of the adult company that you run?

I am sure you are a super busy CEO...

The whole point, that you have missed here, is that one did not have to be a big company or a CEO to make that kind of money in this biz 10 years ago.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Toby

The whole point, that you have missed here, is that one did not have to be a big company or a CEO to make that kind of money in this biz 10 years ago.

bingo

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by Toby

The whole point, that you have missed here, is that one did not have to be a big company or a CEO to make that kind of money in this biz 10 years ago.

Ok and how many of them retained their great wealth from that era?

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Ok and how many of them retained their great wealth from that era?

Many did, and many did not. No different than any other group that come into large amounts of money relatively quickly.

[Mediaguy]

Shellee, normally a newb would not merit such dedicated threads, and so it's as warning to your atittude and manner that you should take a thread (or two or three now?) begun in your honour...

Sarettah is (kindly and gently) baiting you, as you probably are aware, and the pressure you feel to respond shows the compulsion you have to justify yourself that has prompted you to write and post things you shouldn't, at least until you begin understanding the end of the pool you're wading in...

Rhetorical's success came at a time when such types of businesses didn't need the corporate structure Microsoft evolved after years of existence and which it probably didn't even have when you had your thousands of shares (and why the hell would you ever sell those, I wonder?). I get the feeling you just responded the way you did to drop your microsoft mention...

Besides, 150K is hardly competition for Microsoft ventures, even back then.

If you can make 600k in your sleep because you wisely invested in microsoft a few decades ago doesn't qualify you as a person who knows how to make money; in fact, it's just maybe the opposite.

Statements like "I am sorry but I did not catch the name of the adult company that you run?" show you for an arrogant, brick&mortared old-school, pre-web business person who really has no notion of internet business reality.

Rhetorical doesn't need to have an "adult company" to be wise enough to give you advice; an affiliate with a little time spent in the trenches (no offense there, Rhet) will have more authority than you will ever have with an attitude like the one you show here.

I met a corporate rep from Yahoo who came to Internext with four suits and a headful of standard concepts about business in Florida one year. The suit lasted about an hour, his concepts lasted much less than that; he sat and listened like a kindergarten kid, to his credit, for hours, while we told him about the world we do business in.

There's a message here, Shellee: take it easy, you're a kid around here... if you can aknowledge that the guff who *only* pulls in a couple thousand a month has more experience and knowledge to impart than you do with your 600k a night riff, you'll be okay.

But if you start whipping out your 20,000 shares in microsoft and posting blindly into this universe as if it's the same as any other corporate/industrial ghetto that could care less about whether it's founded on carpet samples or styrofoam cups, you will stick out like the sore thumb you're sure to become from constantly hammering away at things you can't possibly grasp until the light is turned on and you actually see what's around you.

That will only come in time, and from circulating along these tunnels that are dug beneath the traditional world business culture from which you're coming.

Understand this: because adult business is what it is in the eyes of the world, you are welcome here, completely and without prejudice. We are open. But learn this place and how it functions, or rather how it exists in more of a individualistic state of formlessness, before you try to impose the structured, standard world's concepts upon it.

So, welcome aboard, take it mellow... and post away if there's anything you'd like to know about. We're all here

[softball]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

What veneer?

I had some success, I took off time to raise a family, I talked about some ideas I had for three years and then a year ago attempted to test the waters and see if I could actually do what it took to implement them after so much time off.

I have not even began to build the dream I have only starting to put together the pieces of the foundation and I am sorry but I did not catch the name of the adult company that you run?

I am sure you are a super busy CEO, probably too busy to mess with productive advisement for someone new. Right now all I know is that your really good and starting Shellee Hale threads and bashing me for my thoughts and opinions.

At this point that is all I have seen you be good at.

And you think I care. nuff said bout that. And no you did not catch the name of the adult company I run because it was never pitched. You just protest too loudly. Your attemtps to dazzle us with brilliance are teetering on the brink, so you are trying to baffle us with bullshit. Damn the torpedoes. Press on regardless. But you are not fooling me with this horse patoody.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

And you think I care. nuff said bout that. And no you did not catch the name of the adult company I run because it was never pitched. You just protest too loudly. Your attemtps to dazzle us with brilliance are teetering on the brink, so you are trying to baffle us with bullshit. Damn the torpedoes. Press on regardless. But you are not fooling me with this horse patoody.

You must care you keep starting Shellee Hale threads for some apparent reason.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Silly girl. You asked the question. Your apoplexy is becoming apparent as your veneer wears thin.

"and the colored girls go do be do be do be doobedoo"

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Sounds like it was competitive with Microsoft stock. What was the project? You mean the 20,000 shares I got in 1996 did not do that?

Ok, here's the rub. Working for Microsoft from '86-96 does not automatically give you creds in the internet world, especially not in the adult internet world.

That was a different time and place.

The only thing coming into this biz with lots of money does is make you perfect bait for the sharks. You are not just a penguin, you are a big, fat, juicy, sauteed and barbequed Penguin.




.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Ok, here's the rub. Working for Microsoft from '86-96 does not automatically give you creds in the internet world, especially not in the adult internet world.

That was a different time and place.

The only thing coming into this biz with lots of money does is make you perfect bait for the sharks. You are not just a penguin, you are a big, fat, juicy, sauteed and barbequed Penguin.




.

Someone mistook me for a penguin 2 weeks ago.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Someone mistook me for a penguin 2 weeks ago.

That is why you are supposed to wear the coat dammit

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sarettah

That is why you are supposed to wear the coat dammit

Kelly Kelly wants me to develop a Rockabilly look.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Ok, here's the rub. Working for Microsoft from '86-96 does not automatically give you creds in the internet world, especially not in the adult internet world.

That was a different time and place.

The only thing coming into this biz with lots of money does is make you perfect bait for the sharks. You are not just a penguin, you are a big, fat, juicy, sauteed and barbequed Penguin.




.

Not working for over 10 years while all this really evolved gives me less credibility in adult internet which is a fact that I am fully aware of. But where I have to disagree is this mentality that adult is something "special" when the companies and people here that I have noticed have any merit or worth are those that know how to start a Corporation and run it like a real business which means having a mainstream approach and in many cases experience.

The deals I am working on now all have crossovers because overall the technology and the IT talent is brilliant in adult and way under valued and truely can cut the costs in mainstream. A really smart woman or man with a contact list and relationships cross industry to facilitate some of that now is brilliant. The adult stigma is lessend as the dollar decreases and the need to do more for less without involving outsourcing to other countries and L-1 Visas(especially with the need to bring jobs home)

I do have alterier motives that is also a fact. I don't care for the direction that our govt. has chosen to go in or the prosecutorial choices but in order to get the information I needed to best position and debate the issues I needed both sides of the story and experience - this is why I put myself out there to be critisized at the cost of instigating the debate and reviewing the strong opinions on all sides.

As I say we remove the content and your left with the same thing mainstream or adult (adult much more talented) but overall none of us are really that special and especially not me. I do have a talent for which those who have spent time with me are fully aware of which is why of all the people working in adult there's just the handful (two of whom ripped me off) that keep coming after me.

One thing is for sure the insults towards the lame attempts to defend myself are warranted and deserved because being under NDA with so many people I can't even talk about what I have really done of value or who I have worked with.

[softball]

Here's the deal. Real world or internet. Adult or straight. There are not a lot of boutiques with CEO's. There are a lot of boutique businesses that do very well and afford their owners a good lifestyle. I don't make the same spectacular gains of the 90's.....few do. In fact business ain't exactly booming at the moment, but it does afford me a good middle class lifestyle with a couple of houses, cars, tv and a couple of trips every now and then. I still maintain that you are clueless with your NDA's and strong opinions. Save that shit for your Republican party Shortbread Socials.