SheleeHale...a serious question for you

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I do not normally beat on noobies too much, in fact quite the opposite in most cases.

However, if a noob comes off real arrogant I have no problem calling them on it.

I had kind of forgotten that SH was still pretty much noobie until DK pointed it out today.

She is quite ambitous from what I can see and that is all well and good. I see from the corp page that she has 16 sites up and running (even if some are just front pages to push directly to a sponsor) and that is quite commendable.

Thank you and yes I really just got started in this 1 year ago after a selling my consulting practice to Computer People in 1992 I have spent most my time doing a few little project here and there but mostly doing philanthropy which was a hell of a lot harder than this. I am sure if you have been around that long find some old Coputer World's or Info Worlds and you will find articles on my work or bi-lined by me back in the day; hell there is even the front page of the Wall Street Journal from 1987 when I was working with Capital Associates.

Ok so when I started in IT in 1984 as a PC Coordinator there was DOS and I am old and things really progressed while I was off between 1994-2007 I did do some great fun things like programming our whole house to run off a computer panel where the lights and stereo and tv worked from a laptop in 1997 and other fun things with t-view and slide shows etc that is now so easy to do. But, no I never sold sex or even thought about it until a huge twist happened in a plan I had while looking for a chat platform to run a coaching site. I never found adult it found me.

I spent the last year listening to people I felt were important and smart in this business and aligned myself with them and the rest maybe I am arrogant for dismissing in comments but I worked my ass off most of my life and I am not here looking for some get rich quick scheme - I am here to start a solid business based on my ideas.

As far as the front pages go after a debacle with my first chat platform this was a great inexpensive way to see if I was any good at this before investing a ton of money into exclusive content and development - probably a smart move with the economic turn don't you think?

Give me a few more months as I pull this all together I may be a little slow with the board etiquette but this is nothing compared to the battles we had in board rooms where I learned to debate my points with conviction and stand up for myself.

[softball]

breath taking, really. Personally, I wanna see the results. I am patient.
However, if I were a betting man, I would say this shit is piled so damn high, I can't see the top of the pile.
I think it was some obscure American that once said "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."
But hey, hedge your bets.

[Sexyteaser]

Please show me the most successful project that you had 11 months after you started your first adult site? or better yet 18 months or even today.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Please show me the most successful project that you had 11 months after you started your first adult site? or better yet 18 months or eventoday.

LOLOLOLOL.....my first adult project was wildly successful after two months. Four months later I quit my last career. In fact at two and a half months, I watched in total amazement my first 150K just whizz into the old bank account. And then the profits started to roll in after we started taking it seriously. I am not bragging, Shellee, but this is where you crash and burn. Many of us had that experience and you don't have a fucking clue about that. I would never have lasted 11 or 18 months in this business without a huge profit motive. It just ain't that much fun. Sheeeeiiiit.

Oh, and btw, that was when 150 K was serious fucking money.....

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

LOLOLOLOL.....my first adult project was wildly successful after two months. Four months later I quit my last career. In fact at two and a half months, I watched in total amazement my first 150K just whizz into the old bank account. And then the profits started to roll in after we started taking it seriously. I am not bragging, Shellee, but this is where you crash and burn. Many of us had that experience and you don't have a fucking clue about that. I would never have lasted 11 or 18 months in this business without a huge profit motive. It just ain't that much fun. Sheeeeiiiit.

Oh, and btw, that was when 150 K was serious fucking money.....

Sounds like it was competitive with Microsoft stock. What was the project? You mean the 20,000 shares I got in 1996 did not do that? Or what do I actually not have a clue about. Today without working I make 4 times that just sleeping and I am not trying to brag but just wondering what you think I don't have a clue about because it sure isn't making money.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Sounds like it was competitive with Microsoft stock. What was the project? You mean the 20,000 shares I got in 1996 did not do that? Or what do I actually not have a clue about. Today without working I make 4 times that just sleeping and I am not trying to brag but just wondering what you think I don't have a clue about because it sure isn't making money.

Silly girl. You asked the question. Your apoplexy is becoming apparent as your veneer wears thin.

"and the colored girls go do be do be do be doobedoo"

[softball]

and like I said, it was a common story back then.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Silly girl. You asked the question. Your apoplexy is becoming apparent as your veneer wears thin.

"and the colored girls go do be do be do be doobedoo"

What veneer?

I had some success, I took off time to raise a family, I talked about some ideas I had for three years and then a year ago attempted to test the waters and see if I could actually do what it took to implement them after so much time off.

I have not even began to build the dream I have only starting to put together the pieces of the foundation and I am sorry but I did not catch the name of the adult company that you run?

I am sure you are a super busy CEO, probably too busy to mess with productive advisement for someone new. Right now all I know is that your really good and starting Shellee Hale threads and bashing me for my thoughts and opinions.

At this point that is all I have seen you be good at.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Silly girl. You asked the question. Your apoplexy is becoming apparent as your veneer wears thin.

"and the colored girls go do be do be do be doobedoo"

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Sounds like it was competitive with Microsoft stock. What was the project? You mean the 20,000 shares I got in 1996 did not do that?

Ok, here's the rub. Working for Microsoft from '86-96 does not automatically give you creds in the internet world, especially not in the adult internet world.

That was a different time and place.

The only thing coming into this biz with lots of money does is make you perfect bait for the sharks. You are not just a penguin, you are a big, fat, juicy, sauteed and barbequed Penguin.




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[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Ok, here's the rub. Working for Microsoft from '86-96 does not automatically give you creds in the internet world, especially not in the adult internet world.

That was a different time and place.

The only thing coming into this biz with lots of money does is make you perfect bait for the sharks. You are not just a penguin, you are a big, fat, juicy, sauteed and barbequed Penguin.




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Someone mistook me for a penguin 2 weeks ago.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Ok, here's the rub. Working for Microsoft from '86-96 does not automatically give you creds in the internet world, especially not in the adult internet world.

That was a different time and place.

The only thing coming into this biz with lots of money does is make you perfect bait for the sharks. You are not just a penguin, you are a big, fat, juicy, sauteed and barbequed Penguin.




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Not working for over 10 years while all this really evolved gives me less credibility in adult internet which is a fact that I am fully aware of. But where I have to disagree is this mentality that adult is something "special" when the companies and people here that I have noticed have any merit or worth are those that know how to start a Corporation and run it like a real business which means having a mainstream approach and in many cases experience.

The deals I am working on now all have crossovers because overall the technology and the IT talent is brilliant in adult and way under valued and truely can cut the costs in mainstream. A really smart woman or man with a contact list and relationships cross industry to facilitate some of that now is brilliant. The adult stigma is lessend as the dollar decreases and the need to do more for less without involving outsourcing to other countries and L-1 Visas(especially with the need to bring jobs home)

I do have alterier motives that is also a fact. I don't care for the direction that our govt. has chosen to go in or the prosecutorial choices but in order to get the information I needed to best position and debate the issues I needed both sides of the story and experience - this is why I put myself out there to be critisized at the cost of instigating the debate and reviewing the strong opinions on all sides.

As I say we remove the content and your left with the same thing mainstream or adult (adult much more talented) but overall none of us are really that special and especially not me. I do have a talent for which those who have spent time with me are fully aware of which is why of all the people working in adult there's just the handful (two of whom ripped me off) that keep coming after me.

One thing is for sure the insults towards the lame attempts to defend myself are warranted and deserved because being under NDA with so many people I can't even talk about what I have really done of value or who I have worked with.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Please show me the most successful project that you had 11 months after you started your first adult site? or better yet 18 months or even today.

http://www.2Much.net
and then about 1 year later,
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

I started with 1 idea, and I stuck with it until I could finally afford the time to start a second idea. Today these 2 businesses (related) are all that I do.

Shellee Maybe you could stop listing your 2 dozen or so domain names on your business card and corporate site and stop bragging about them as if they are all different projects when they are really just upsells (whoohoo), and concentrate on 1 and 1 only.

Certainly, a CONSULTANT would probably tell you to build one successfull website before you start another. But hey, what do I know.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I think it was some obscure American that once said "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

That "obscure" American was President John F. Kennedy.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Toby

That "obscure" American was President John F. Kennedy.

I believe you actually meant John F. Lincoln...???? lol..... or honest John as they called him. Sorry, but I am Canadian and not as au fait with American history as a native.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I believe you actually meant John F. Lincoln...???? lol..... or honest John as they called him. Sorry, but I am Canadian and not as au fait with American history as a native.

Yes you're right, it was Lincoln not Kennedy. Right office, wrong occupant.

Kennedy's quote of note was, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

[softball]

Originally Posted by Toby

Yes you're right, it was Lincoln not Kennedy. Right office, wrong occupant.

Kennedy's quote of note was, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

JFK was a quote factory, but as it applies to Miss S here today, I think this is very appropriate....
"Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."

[Mediaguy]

Originally Posted by Toby

That "obscure" American was President John F. Kennedy.

Everyone rings a ding on this one dong, it was good ole Abe Lincoln:

http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Abraham_Lincoln/

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Mediaguy

Everyone rings a ding on this one dong, it was good ole Abe Lincoln...

Yes, we got that sorted already.

What is odd, is that I have a fairly vivid memory of Kennedy saying that line, with his distinctive Baaaaaston accent. Now I'm wondering if he actually did quote Lincoln in some speech I saw in history class, or if my mind is turning to Silly Putty.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Toby

Yes, we got that sorted already.

What is odd, is that I have a fairly vivid memory of Kennedy saying that line, with his distinctive Baaaaaston accent. Now I'm wondering if he actually did quote Lincoln in some speech I saw in history class, or if my mind is turning to Silly Putty.

My money is on Silly Putty....lol.

edit:
But we need an expert opinion on this. Let's ask Shellee the Professor Irwin Corey of porn.....

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

breath taking, really. Personally, I wanna see the results. I am patient.
However, if I were a betting man, I would say this shit is piled so damn high, I can't see the top of the pile.
I think it was some obscure American that once said "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."
But hey, hedge your bets.

Rhetorical: I agree ! I am seriously laughing my ass off after that post. It's the stinkiest pile of horseshit yet thats for sure!