How to get the point across to you LM.....

[Jace]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Why? It should be discussed.

i think when all the facts come to light it would be a lot easier to discuss, that way both sides are on the table

right now as it stands there is Mike AI in the mayflower telling everyone what is happening, and everyone who doesn't have access to that site guessing and throwing in their opinion, when obviously there is SO MUCH more than what people know

hell, the google notice alone is enough to make me cringe and not even speak up

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Jace

right now as it stands there is Mike AI in the mayflower telling everyone what is happening, and everyone who doesn't have access to that site guessing and throwing in their opinion, when obviously there is SO MUCH more than what people know

What, if i may ask, is the Mayflower?

[Jace]

Originally Posted by sarettah

What, if i may ask, is the Mayflower?

apparently that is what serge has nicknamed his whinetalk internet forum

[softball]

Originally Posted by Jace

apparently that is what serge has nicknamed his whinetalk internet forum

Yeah, internet pilgrims. Where do I sign up? LOL

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Jace

apparently that is what serge has nicknamed his whinetalk internet forum

Oh, ok, I didn't know anything about that.

I just went over to look and when I click on the internet forum it shows zero messages, so I wouldn't guess that Mike is doing much talking in there.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Oh, ok, I didn't know anything about that.

I just went over to look and when I click on the internet forum it shows zero messages, so I wouldn't guess that Mike is doing much talking in there.

it is a hidden forum, you have to be invited

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Jace

it is a hidden forum, you have to be invited

So, you think you could wrangle me an invite? I mean, what are the requirements and what do you guys talk about ?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Jace

it is a hidden forum, you have to be invited

Use a skeleton key.

[helix]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Use a skeleton key.

Or the secret handshake.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Use a skeleton key.

I hear you can peek under the blinds...

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Use a skeleton key.

Or steal passwords from your own users.

And Jace, you need better intel. Michael's not saying anything anywhere else he hasn't posted on GFY and JBM.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Oh, ok, I didn't know anything about that.

I just went over to look and when I click on the internet forum it shows zero messages, so I wouldn't guess that Mike is doing much talking in there.

Threads: 3,578, Posts: 29,443, Members: 226

now check out
http://winetalk.com/forum/index.php?

add up the totals on there

the difference is the Mayflower

[softball]

Originally Posted by Jace

Threads: 3,578, Posts: 29,443, Members: 226

now check out
http://winetalk.com/forum/index.php?

add up the totals on there

the difference is the Mayflower

Skull and Bones Masons Knights Templar

[sarettah]

Hmmm. Are we at the tin foil stage over what Serge is doing yet?

I would have thought that the message difference was messages that had been marked deleted (not actually deleted, but flagged for deletion in the database by the script) That is what is usually the case on the boards I have done database work for. It all depends on whether the database is set to delete immediately or keep them marked for recall if rollback is turned on.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Skull and Bones Masons Knights Templar

hey hey now... lets leave the Masonic Lodge out of this ok


spaz

[softball]

OK, here is a Free Speech Coalition opinion....excerpts....

"First Amendment attorney and Free Speech Coalition Chairman Jeffrey Douglas said the ID request is unprecedented, and more importantly, a violation of privacy laws. According to Douglas, the request is illegal, and also could have a chilling effect on the free speech of webmasters that deal in legal teen content.

“This is a blatant and absolute violation of privacy laws,” Douglas told XBIZ. “There’s absolutely no legal liability for the registrar if underage models appear on a website. DirectNIC is an officious intermeddler.”

Upon receiving a complaint of child pornography, there are legal courses of action for directNIC to take, Douglas said. Since it has no legal right to obtain personally identifiable information from the website’s models, the company should have alerted the proper legal authorities, but instead it decided to take the law into its own hands. "


"“The bottom line is that if [directNIC] received a complaint about child porn, there are a numerous avenues for them to report it to the proper legal authorities,” Douglas said. “DirectNIC has no remote prayer to legally justify their request. They are licensed to provide a service — not to police content. I would think that upon hearing this, most adult companies would transfer their domains [away from directNIC] immediately.”

"Douglas continued, “Again, under federal law they have no right to these documents, so now they have no protection from civil liability. They are immune from policing content under the law, but now by doing so they have created liability. DirectNIC is lawlessly intruding into their business.”

And the DirectNic Response:

"According to directNIC General Counsel David W. Nance, upon receiving a warranted complaint of child porn, the company takes action by either immediately shutting down the domain or conducting an investigation.

“In most cases when there is a confirmed report of child porn, directNIC takes immediate action and shuts down the domain names because it is blatantly obvious that the customer is offering child porn,” Nance told XBIZ. “However, not every case is clear cut. The letter was intended to notify the customer of the potential issue that was reported to directNIC. This does not mean that the domains contain child porn; it only means that an investigation was commenced — i.e., we want to make sure that we do not facilitate the trading of child porn online.”


http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/F...view&coid=1014

[softball]

Interesting that the FSC is fundamentally agreeing with what I and most concerned people have been posting.