Oprano Front Page


Go Back   Oprano Adult Industry Forums > The Business Of Porn - Closed For Posting > Legacy Archived Main Board

Notices

Legacy Archived Main Board Business chat and general industry chat. All participation is welcome. Dont post your fucking spam here.





Check Out YnotMail

The Original Oprano Flat Board (Thanks To Sarettah!)---
Oprano Swag Shop
"History Of Porn Timeline
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-10-2006   #1
Charles Taylor
Holding Catsup Head's Beer
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 43
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

First and foremost I would like to thank everyone out here to address these issues.

Gonzo….good stuff….like your work. But every story has two sides to it right? So since you actually weren’t there to see everything that took place I will fill in the gaps for you in my rebuttal. Naturally since we do live in a country where you are presumed innocent until proven guilty I am glad that you are here to prejudge this entire ordeal.

I won’t be lying here either since “everyone” knows my MO and I have a truly “bad” reputation to maintain. Ask any of the producers that get talent from me I am known far and wide as a complete asshole….why would I let the legend die now?

Among other things I find talent for various companies throughout Florida and can provide references as for such. The models have to be realistic in respect to the time frame and amount of money that they will make. So let’s say a girl comes to you and asks you for a job that she has no prior experience doing, is not currently tested and has unattainable expectations about the industry in general to begin with. I just don’t waive my magic wand and instaneously jobs come pouring in that the models are interested in doing. You have to take the good ones along with the bad ones as well and examine the pros and cons accordingly.

Brief synopsis: Let’s see I met her she is currently living in as she called it the “ghetto” and her car died while she was in transit to her new abode. So she lacking on the transportation and housing fronts. She went on to say that she had tried to work with other “agencies” in South Florida but were unimpressed since they all wanted sex from her upfront. I never told her she had to sleep with me to get any job but she assumed that it was the case. She actually invited me to have sex with her. If you don’t believe me I can show you the video. I shot the other necessary content and proceeded along with my job to promote her. Took her to the Internext had her meet and greet with you all you nice folks. Took her to porno dans party and a South Florida producer (to remain nameless, why don’t you ask her about this one as well.) wanted her to give him head in the bathroom. That didn’t pan out too well either so we went back to the diplomat. Took her inebriated ass over to the Tampa area for some shoots that I had pre booked for her the next day. One of those shoots cancelled because they didn’t get approval for “her” look. She has got some interestingly placed tattoos and that was the reason for their cancellation. Then I booked her for another shoot and by that time she had totally changed her mind and wanted to go back to South Florida.

Points that I really wish to address are:
1) - I gave her drugs….No sorry believe her on that one. However she told me that she was kicked out of the navy for testing positive for cocaine so believe who you will.
2) - I left her stranded….I took her to a Greyhound bus stop after she told me she wanted to leave. I don’t run a taxi or shuttle service and after I gave $$$ to the girl the night before at the diplomat and at the PJ party for drinks and food (since she claimed she was broke) and then she changes her mind midstream her transportation issues are not my problem. I told her that I would bring her back upon completion of her shoots. If she had stayed till Wednesday and all of the shoots I booked with her had fell though I would be obligated to drive her home, as I have done with many other models before her. Now you should ask her if she had every told me that she “owed” me some money and that I could take it out of her future shoots.

I am also MALE TALENT for several websites and also have adult video credits as well. Sorry to inform you of that but that’s the bottom line. So you’re right I am “Fat Fucking Tallent!” indeed.

Yes I do meet with the female talent before I book them for any shoots and unless female talent has substantial verifiable credits I offer two types of plans for them to choose from-

a) Content
Or
b) Collateral

If you wish for me to elaborate on either of those items I will in future posts. In regards to the questions of pay and travel expenses as brought up in this thread. You must work around the technicalities of each issue. First if you haven’t read any articles lately you won’t know that currently Ray Guhn is being prosecuted in Florida for among other thing shooting adult content in the state. This is related to California v. Freeman where it is legal to shoot commercial porn in the state of California and in all other states it is not applicable. As far as travel expenses go it’s a direct violation of the Mann Act. So when you’re convicted on such charges I will come to see you in prison just to say “I told you so”. So you can take what you want from those statements above but I try to operate within the guidelines of the letter of the law. Naturally I am not a lawyer so I don’t pretend to be a know it all in regards to legal matters along those lines either.


Now you don’t do your job for free and please don’t expect me to do mine that way either. Since you have never been as you call it a “suitcase pimp” you would not know or understand why I have procedures in place for talent to actually understand what their getting themselves into. So yes I do “auditions” with some of the girls at least the ones that I will be working with in the future anyway. This is due to the fact that I want to be sure that we have some chemistry together and once again that they can actually do the job. Now everyone can fuck but some people need a little extra help in the performance department. Since we are selling images and fantasy to the consumer it would only look a tad bit better if the end product really looked good. The bottom line is I have had way too many girls waste my time before like the one you mentioned here. The others before her had said that they didn’t want to fuck the male talent that they were paired up with because as she said “he wasn’t her type” and another girl before her told me after she got to the set that she was unaware that it was “nude modeling”. So now you know why I actually do the shit I do beforehand. I would love to admit that it’s just to get laid like you all have pre assumed already. But since I too already get paid to do it this job as well why am I wasting my time fucking around and not being paid for my time either. The other reason that I meet with all talent beforehand is because I have received a few interesting photos of people over the years doing this job. Some girls don’t have cameras, current pictures or just wish to embellish on their looks. I am sure that after booking a few Rosanne Bar look a likes under the guise that they had told they were supermodels over the phone you too would do a little more research and actually meet up with prospective models before throwing them out to the content shooters. Now I am waiting for all the hypocrites to chime in and call me a scum bag who are themselves doing the exact same thing or wish they could do it as well. But I don’t expect anyone to be as honest as I am in this the adult biz.

By the way thanks for all the bad press as it has worked in all the other “suit case pimps” favor and I appreciate it wholeheartedly. Since ultimately there is no such thing as bad press.


Now go ahead and FLAME away since I could really give a rat’s ass!!!
Charles Taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2006   #2
Hammer
Master of My Domains
 
Hammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,701
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Well, that reminded me of some of LC's posts. Long and redundant. However, there are always three sides to every story. Her side, your side and the truth. I can't say that I'd lean toward believing a chick that has sex for money though.
__________________
Porn Site Pros - Custom Website Design, Turnkey Webcam and Pay Sites, SEO, and Consulting
Hammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2006   #3
Charles Taylor
Holding Catsup Head's Beer
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 43
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer
Well, that reminded me of some of LC's posts. Long and redundant. However, there are always three sides to every story. Her side, your side and the truth. I can't say that I'd lean toward believing a chick that has sex for money though.
Sorry but I don’t do any of the LC style shoots and she was just starting out in the biz from what she told me. I guess you are one of the guys that tend to believe the ladies at the strip club too when they tell you there only there doing this so they can put themselves through college. I unlike LC am not here to start drama. I am in this business to do just that…BUSINESS. I just didn’t start doing this yesterday and can sleep at night knowing what I do know is the truth. Not heresy started because it was a slow news day on the boards.
Charles Taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2006   #4
Hammer
Master of My Domains
 
Hammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,701
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles Taylor
Sorry but I don’t do any of the LC style shoots and she was just starting out in the biz from what she told me. I guess you are one of the guys that tend to believe the ladies at the strip club too when they tell you there only there doing this so they can put themselves through college. I unlike LC am not here to start drama. I am in this business to do just that…BUSINESS. I just didn’t start doing this yesterday and can sleep at night knowing what I do know is the truth. Not heresy started because it was a slow news day on the boards.
I guess you should learn to read. I said that the post was similar to LC's style and nothing about shoots and I said I would tend to NOT lean toward believing the story from a chick that fucks for pay, which if you read it correctly is basically saying I tend to believe your version.
__________________
Porn Site Pros - Custom Website Design, Turnkey Webcam and Pay Sites, SEO, and Consulting
Hammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2006   #5
gonzo
Fat Fucking Nobody
Want to see your own Advertising Here!
 
gonzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Atlanta,Ga.
Posts: 17,795
Blog Entries: 11
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer
I guess you should learn to read. I said that the post was similar to LC's style and nothing about shoots and I said I would tend to NOT lean toward believing the story from a chick that fucks for pay, which if you read it correctly is basically saying I tend to believe your version.
As I sad on xpeeps. Sure are a lot of posts from a guy that doesnt get a rats ass.

Hes already admitted he stranded her 4 hours away from home at a bus stop.
__________________
We are putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."
"Never try and be like anyone else" - Hunter S. Thompson
"The truth is the truth no matter how you try and package a lie" - Shellee Hale
gonzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2006   #6
softball
Members
Want to see your own Advertising Here!
 
softball's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,165
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

I think taking her drunk to a shoot speaks volumes. Personally I will not allow anyone on drugs or drunk on my set.
softball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006   #7
brand0n
Members
 
brand0n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 711
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

lol@ the bus station
__________________
whats the sig rules?
brand0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006   #8
Charles Taylor
Holding Catsup Head's Beer
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 43
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by rhetorical
I think taking her drunk to a shoot speaks volumes. Personally I will not allow anyone on drugs or drunk on my set.


Guess I wasn’t the only one who couldn’t read last night since her proposed shoot was more then 12 after we had made it to our destination. So once again all of the shooters that I work with as well DO NOT shoot anyone drunk or on drugs. You do know what a release is worth if someone was to do that right?
Charles Taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2006   #9
Charles Taylor
Holding Catsup Head's Beer
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 43
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer
I guess you should learn to read. I said that the post was similar to LC's style and nothing about shoots and I said I would tend to NOT lean toward believing the story from a chick that fucks for pay, which if you read it correctly is basically saying I tend to believe your version.
Sorry Hammer....When my reading comprehension is dwindling its time for me to call it a night.....I apologize.
Charles Taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006   #10
Jace
....
$100 for every ImLive sign-up
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,392
Blog Entries: 1
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer
I can't say that I'd lean toward believing a chick that has sex for money though.
unfortunately, after the experiences we have had with agents, the same can be said for them also

so, having an agent fight with a model is like having a shaving program owner fight with scamming affiliate
Jace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006   #11
spazlabz
Payserve SUX
 
spazlabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,988
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jace
unfortunately, after the experiences we have had with agents, the same can be said for them also

so, having an agent fight with a model is like having a shaving program owner fight with scamming affiliate
2 fat guys arguing over which is better...
dunkin donuts
or krusty kreme




spaz
spazlabz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006   #12
spazlabz
Payserve SUX
 
spazlabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,988
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Mr. Taylor,
what are the facts as agreed upon by all parties?
You deep stroked talent for free as an 'audition' - ok your a macdaddy because i would assume most models wouldnt spread their valueable real estate for free

you took the girl to the con and parties on your arm

she got sick of what she perceived to be your 'shit' and wanted to go home

you dumped her at bus station without verifying that she did indeed have bus fare

does that about sum up the facts as ALL parties agree to?


spaz

{edited fair to fare because I had a brainfart}
{edited again to change brianfart to brainfart because Hammer is all up in my ass about it!!} LOL

Last edited by spazlabz; 08-11-2006 at 12:30 PM.
spazlabz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006   #13
gonzo
Fat Fucking Nobody
Want to see your own Advertising Here!
 
gonzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Atlanta,Ga.
Posts: 17,795
Blog Entries: 11
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by spazlabz
Mr. Taylor,
what are the facts as agreed upon by all parties?
You deep stroked talent for free as an 'audition' - ok your a macdaddy because i would assume most models wouldnt spread their valueable real estate for free

you took the girl to the con and parties on your arm

she got sick of what she perceived to be your 'shit' and wanted to go home

you dumped her at bus station without verifying that she did indeed have bus fare

does that about sum up the facts as ALL parties agree to?


spaz

{edited fair to fare because I had a brianfart}
Id say thats about as clear cut as anyone can make it without a lot of posturing, insults and deflection.
__________________
We are putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."
"Never try and be like anyone else" - Hunter S. Thompson
"The truth is the truth no matter how you try and package a lie" - Shellee Hale
gonzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006   #14
Hammer
Master of My Domains
 
Hammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,701
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

What's a 'brianfart'? Is your real name Brian?

Was this model able to get into the hotel for free or did someone have to pay for her badge?

Dumping anyone at a bus station when you know they don't have any money or without verifying that they do have any money is just plain wrong, and I don't care who it is. What if she had left the bus station and started thumbing, got picked up in the boonies, raped and murdered? I'm pretty sure at that point you would have some serious legal issues, if not moral ones.
__________________
Porn Site Pros - Custom Website Design, Turnkey Webcam and Pay Sites, SEO, and Consulting
Hammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006   #15
Jace
....
$100 for every ImLive sign-up
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,392
Blog Entries: 1
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer
What's a 'brianfart'? Is your real name Brian?

Was this model able to get into the hotel for free or did someone have to pay for her badge?

Dumping anyone at a bus station when you know they don't have any money or without verifying that they do have any money is just plain wrong, and I don't care who it is. What if she had left the bus station and started thumbing, got picked up in the boonies, raped and murdered? I'm pretty sure at that point you would have some serious legal issues, if not moral ones.
i think that is when the family guy cast shows up and brian farts on you

and yes, dumping someone at the bus station is just fucked up and wrong....it doesn't matter who it is.
Jace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006   #16
Charles Taylor
Holding Catsup Head's Beer
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 43
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by spazlabz
Mr. Taylor,
what are the facts as agreed upon by all parties?
You deep stroked talent for free as an 'audition' - ok your a macdaddy because i would assume most models wouldnt spread their valueable real estate for free

you took the girl to the con and parties on your arm

she got sick of what she perceived to be your 'shit' and wanted to go home

you dumped her at bus station without verifying that she did indeed have bus fare

does that about sum up the facts as ALL parties agree to?


spaz

{edited fair to fare because I had a brainfart}
{edited again to change brianfart to brainfart because Hammer is all up in my ass about it!!} LOL
You guys are still pissed off that Im getting some play and not having to pay for it aren’t ya……As a competitor of mine has said recently……

“Welcome to the world of porn….suck it up!!!”

I am not a “mack daddy”….I dont have “game” so please give it a rest…..I am happy that your jealous of me….but please don’t commit one of the 7 deadly sins and be envious of me.

If you read on she place me in a position that I could not further help her in. For I had told her prior to leaving that AFTER her shoots I would bring her home….

But since you’re only actually concerned with what you want to hear/read…WTF….I already said everything you said was true. It’s all my fault Crucify me if you will


Satisfied yet? my guess is probably not.
Charles Taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006   #17
gonzo
Fat Fucking Nobody
Want to see your own Advertising Here!
 
gonzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Atlanta,Ga.
Posts: 17,795
Blog Entries: 11
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles Taylor
You guys are still pissed off that Im getting some play and not having to pay for it aren’t ya……As a competitor of mine has said recently……

“Welcome to the world of porn….suck it up!!!”

I am not a “mack daddy”….I dont have “game” so please give it a rest…..I am happy that your jealous of me….but please don’t commit one of the 7 deadly sins and be envious of me.

If you read on she place me in a position that I could not further help her in. For I had told her priory to leaving that AFTER her shoots I would bring her home….

But since you’re only actually concerned with what you want to hear/read…WTF….I already said everything you said was true. It’s all my fault Crucify me if you will


Satisfied yet? my guess is probably not.
I win the bet Spaz!
I told you he thought he was the Mack Daddy cuz he got some
"FREE COKEHEAD TATTOOED WHORE PUSSY"

Your not very good at this are you , Chuck?

You could not further help her with bus fare?
I bet your competitor is laughing his ass off at you.

Are you always this suave with the girls?
__________________
We are putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."
"Never try and be like anyone else" - Hunter S. Thompson
"The truth is the truth no matter how you try and package a lie" - Shellee Hale
gonzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006   #18
spazlabz
Payserve SUX
 
spazlabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,988
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles Taylor
You guys are still pissed off that Im getting some play and not having to pay for it aren’t ya……As a competitor of mine has said recently……

“Welcome to the world of porn….suck it up!!!”

I am not a “mack daddy”….I dont have “game” so please give it a rest…..I am happy that your jealous of me….but please don’t commit one of the 7 deadly sins and be envious of me.

If you read on she place me in a position that I could not further help her in. For I had told her priory to leaving that AFTER her shoots I would bring her home….

But since you’re only actually concerned with what you want to hear/read…WTF….I already said everything you said was true. It’s all my fault Crucify me if you will


Satisfied yet? my guess is probably not.
JEALOUS!!!


JEALOUS!!??

fuck yeah i'm jealous, i'd love to be hitting me some fine ass modeling babes

but your off base on the other things you said

first, i did in fact read everything you wrote... no skimmer here skippy, i pay attention

second.. this line about explaining to her the whole after the shoots thing, its lame... what you did was wrong......wrong, you dont even have to be a gentleman to toss the girl $50 for bus fare... she worked more then that off on her back under you stud

and third.. I did not crucify you, i asked if those were the 'facts' as everyone saw them and could agree to.... who isnt reading what is written now?

listen skamp, you can twist what I say or even what I ask WAY out of porportion, but you're not damaging anyone at all except yourself

do you want to piss with me? I am definitely up for it little man, but bring your A game, a sack lunch and whatever 'girlfriend' you can cull from the gutter because when i am done schooling you, i'll want a snack and some dat pussy


spaz
spazlabz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006   #19
LadyMischief
I like it squishy and wierd.
 
LadyMischief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oakville, Ontario
Posts: 942
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles Taylor
You guys are still pissed off that Im getting some play and not having to pay for it aren’t ya……As a competitor of mine has said recently……

“Welcome to the world of porn….suck it up!!!”

I am not a “mack daddy”….I dont have “game” so please give it a rest…..I am happy that your jealous of me….but please don’t commit one of the 7 deadly sins and be envious of me.

If you read on she place me in a position that I could not further help her in. For I had told her prior to leaving that AFTER her shoots I would bring her home….



But since you’re only actually concerned with what you want to hear/read…WTF….I already said everything you said was true. It’s all my fault Crucify me if you will


Satisfied yet? my guess is probably not.
Jealous? You must be kidding. If I treated a model that way I'd end up never getting a model again, word also travels fast in this industry. Making excuses is fine and dandy, except when nobody thinks they're excuses. There is no excuse for leaving a girl stranded like that, I don't really care what kind of spin you put on it.
__________________

Affiliate Marketing Manager - Homegrowncash
www.homegrowncash.com
LadyMischief is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2006   #20
Jace
....
$100 for every ImLive sign-up
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,392
Blog Entries: 1
Default Re: Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles Taylor
So let’s say a girl comes to you and asks you for a job that she has no prior experience doing, is not currently tested and has unattainable expectations about the industry in general to begin with.
after working in the adult industry since 2000, and also working deep in the porn scene in LA as talent with my wife for over 2 years, you just described every single girl that walked through the doors of every single angency/managers office
Jace is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:10 AM..


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Evil Empire Inc. 2006-2022