Old timers, since you are gone now , why do you keep coming back to ...

[Jace]

Originally Posted by JR

Jace, i have zero problem with you. basically you seem like just another guy, like many running sites in this biz. my problem is the whole "old timers" ... "we want something new here and you're not welcome" thing.

you were just as much a part of that as joe or anyone else. but the simple fact is, you guys dont really talk about business, can't wait to piss with people and are basically no different than those you were so proud to have run off. threads like this and the replies prove that simple fact.

I have stated over and over again that I have no problem with anyone on this board, I want Nick and Anthony unbanned, and I want every to have fun and post....I have said this over and over again

I don't want people to use the words "old timers"....and I have never thought that there shoudl be something new here

just like serge and his army used the term "surfmasters" like it was the last word left on earth, the other side kept using "old timers"....and while I got caught up in it, when people got banned is when I realized that I was caught up something fucking stupid and stopped

[Vick]

Originally Posted by Jace

...... used the term "surfmasters" like it was the last word left on earth, the other side kept using "old timers"....and while I got caught up in it, when people got banned is when I realized that I was caught up something fucking stupid and stopped

Nice ;-)

[JR]

Originally Posted by Jace

just like serge and his army used the term "surfmasters" like it was the last word left on earth, the other side kept using "old timers"....and while I got caught up in it, when people got banned is when I realized that I was caught up something fucking stupid and stopped

i agree that its all stupid. its childish. it is however, entertaining at times.

maybe we are just misunderstanding each other i guess. i haven't spent much time reading your posts and probably understand less than i should about you. but joe is a good example of what i am talking about and whats really obnoxious and annoying to me. i just keep seeing the same old thing "we want a nice, happy place where we can all learn and be friends" and the reality is threads like this and the same old replies, same old arguments and same old BS keeps popping up. if anyones true interest was "business" and "learning" this thread would be an absolute turn off.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by JR

if anyones true interest was "business" and "learning" this thread would be an absolute turn off.

Its amazing how much ground you can make up when you focus more on getting things done as opposed to refreshing and replying!

That being said JR... Im sure you know my bladder is about to burst.

[JR]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Its amazing how much ground you can make up when you focus more on getting things done as opposed to refreshing and replying!

That being said JR... Im sure you know my bladder is about to burst.

haha... i have thought about that on more than one occasion. i keep a few logins to religious and other forums handy for the occasional "off site" venting

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by JR

haha... i have thought about that on more than one occasion. i keep a few logins to religious and other forums handy for the occasional "off site" venting

Part of the appeal to this board is the piss factor. The reward vs effort doesnt pay off as much though...at least for me. Youve also got to consider that in the end a lot of people just dont care.

People can install spyware, be caught shaving, divert your traffic basically steal from you and many will tell you they are "good guys" because they bought em a drink or dinner at a show or sent em a Fleshlight to spank their crank.

Then there are those that you assume are very shrew businesswise for many years. Come to find out luck was more of a factor than you ever realized.

Then there are those that are one job removed from either working fast food or worse yet back on the streets or living out the back of their car. They will lie cheat and steal just to continue to hang on to that job and be a "rockstar".

[Jace]

Originally Posted by JR

i agree that its all stupid. its childish. it is however, entertaining at times.

maybe we are just misunderstanding each other i guess. i haven't spent much time reading your posts and probably under less than i should about you. but joe is a good example of what i am talking about and whats really obnoxious and annoying to me. i just keep seeing the same old thing "we want a nice, happy place where we can all learn and be friends" and the reality is threads like this and the same old replies, same old arguments and same old BS keeps popping up. if anyones true interest was "business" and "learning" this thread would be an absolute turn off.

Let me just end my discussion with one point. I am VERY young in this biz, my 6 or so years have nothing on a lot of the people that did popluate this board....so, while I may not jump in on the bashing of certain other members, it doesn't mean I don't agree with the points of those bashing, it means that I AM young and don't want to burn bridges that could be profitable in the future

Not everyone has agreeing views, and I think Joe is a big enough man and professional enough to accept that I don't agree with his view that old timers need to leave...I never agreed with that, and while I may have gotten caught up in the bullshit at times and jumped on a bandwagon that I know now that I should not have jumped on, I just want it to be known that I do not agree on that point.

I do however agree with the newbie bashing thing, but that is only because I do own a paysite and some other sites that I would love to see reach a 7 figure earning one day, and bashing my future traffic sources is not the way to go about that

if I didn't have a successful business that at time depends on the work of others that I have not met yet, or have just met, I probably would be all over the bashing like white on rice