Interesting Stuff

[Lee]

It would appear that many of the people on The Zoo seem to think you cant help friends / partners out without being employed by them.

http://www.thezoo.com/showthread.php?threadid=401181&s=

Personally i dont why people cant understand that to do a favor, means to get one in return, especially with all the politics that comes with working the adult industry.

Is it really that great a concept to the average webmaster that not everything is done as an employee for a company?

Your thoughts on this?

[Lee]

Okay to append to my previous post...

It srikes me that a lot of people seem to be under the illusion that individuals who dont work for someone else arent making any $ online.

Have sig whores embelished this myth into the minds of todays webmaster so much that it has become an accepted 'fact' of the industry? Or, does it just show that there is a lack of proper business understanding amongst those who are more prevallent on the various industry related forums?

Personally, despite its ups and downs, both financially and mentally, i would never even contemplate working for anyone but myself in the long run.

I just dont understand why the concept of working for ones self is so hard to comprehend to the general masses.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally posted by Lee@Dec 11 2004, 04:35 AM
Okay to append to my previous post...

It srikes me that a lot of people seem to be under the illusion that individuals who dont work for someone else arent making any $ online.

Have sig whores embelished this myth into the minds of todays webmaster so much that it has become an accepted 'fact' of the industry? Or, does it just show that there is a lack of proper business understanding amongst those who are more prevallent on the various industry related forums?

Personally, despite its ups and downs, both financially and mentally, i would never even contemplate working for anyone but myself in the long run.

I just dont understand why the concept of working for ones self is so hard to comprehend to the general masses.

They're morons without the skills to make it on their own let alone to actually build a company.

A guy with over 10,000 posts who hasn't really done anything in the industry is thought of more highly by them than a guy quietly making 6-7 figures and not posting on the boards all day. If you're not hyperactive on the boards, you must be nobody...that's the new attitude. Board Whore truly has become a profession.

[Lee]

Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Dec 11 2004, 02:01 AM
If you're not hyperactive on the boards, you must be nobody...that's the new attitude.

See thats what i mean exactly.

Is it only in our line of work that this is true though? I know we toyed with the idea of opening a mainstream PPP (Pay Per Post) webmaster forum a couple of yeas ago and when we asked a few people about the idea who are prevallent (sp?) in the mainstream world about the concept they literally laughed at the idea.

Why is it that in so many ways the porn world can be leaders yet in so many other ways they are still in somewhat of a third-world mindset?

It just baffles me beyond all comprehension that if you post on a board, 24/7 you are making a fortune while if you dont post 24/7 and dont mention how much income you make, you obviously arent worth shit.

Crazy times for sure, the sooner this part of the industrys evolution is over the better.

[CuriousToyBoy]

I understand you Lee.

People think I am a board whore.

Well fuck them.

I love being the type of guy that does what they do without really giving a shit what other people think.

I am only on boards (and then only in the last 6 months really) because my own businesses have reached the point that I can have some FUN.

Sure, I whore lots of stuff for other people - the common thread on the stuff I whore - they are ALL friends or business associates.

I use tracking codes even on my own stuff... I'm an analysis freak.

I don't understand though why someone who has been around as long as you have are letting it bother you so much though ?

I have no truck working for someone else, I would give up my shit tomorrow and work for someone else.....

IF they could afford me....

They can't.

h34r:

[Lee]

Lindsay.. i hear you on the statistics stuff.. you should see how much shit i have to wade through each month that sponsors dont include in their reports... amount of lost 'hits' etc etc.

It doesnt really bother me per say i just find the whole way of thinking for people like that baffling, i mean it stands to reason someone posting 24/7 has to much time on their hands and arent making any half-decent amount of money which is why they have the need to whore themselves out for the nickel a post for ther sigs.

In reality, as far as i can tell, the only reason to have 10k posts on ANY board, is if you have been a regular on it for 4-5 years or, you own the board in question.

[CuriousToyBoy]

Originally posted by Lee@Dec 11 2004, 08:12 PM
Lindsay.. i hear you on the statistics stuff.. you should see how much shit i have to wade through each month that sponsors dont include in their reports... amount of lost 'hits' etc etc.

It doesnt really bother me per say i just find the whole way of thinking for people like that baffling, i mean it stands to reason someone posting 24/7 has to much time on their hands and arent making any half-decent amount of money which is why they have the need to whore themselves out for the nickel a post for ther sigs.

In reality, as far as i can tell, the only reason to have 10k posts on ANY board, is if you have been a regular on it for 4-5 years or, you own the board in question.

That's what I meant by I understand you ...

I have said in MANY places that post count GENERALLY means shit.

And I LOVE it when some moron on a board I am not very active on calls me a "newbie".

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Boards are a tool, and they work, as we all know, and also as we all know, we all work them differently.

I just also saw the thread on GFY and wondered what all the drama was about.

Anyways, on your point.....

I worked simultaneously on 3 PC's lined up side by side..

One is my workhorse with email and stuff that I sit in front of...

Next along are a lot of things I refer to regularly and all my IM's of the varying pedigrees and some continual script stuff....

The third has some scripting and peer-to-peer running 24/7, and EVERY board I am active on is also open 24/7..

Ready access as I roll my comfy chair up and down the room.

Like in the real office of life, the boards are the virtual water cooler, and ANYONE who has worked in a real business know how much time the "Neville's" in life spend by the water cooler or aimlessly wandering the office floor.

I am just surprised it's all just become such a big deal .....

h34r:

[Hell Puppy]

Originally posted by Lee+Dec 11 2004, 05:08 AM-->