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HAHAHA When liberals cannot win with ideas and persuasion they always want to get violent.
How many Bush/Cheney 04 offices were broken into and ransacked? I know of at least 5... I am sure there is more.
It's ok Serge, I will hold your hand through these tough times. You still have a lot of friends you left behind before you veered left....
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Serge, I will hold your hand. I am comfortable with my sexuality, and I certainly do not harbour any ill will for homosexuals. What people do in their private lives, as long as its between consenting adults, its their business.
But their is a difference between trying to force gay marriage down peoples throats.
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You are right ... I think you are a lot closer to Ashcroft, McVeigh, the Florida Conservative Union, and other kooks than you feel comfortable admitting.
If you are really making the argument that my liberalism somehow equates to Lennin/Trotsky/Stalin/Mao-style communism, then you prove it.
I did not say that leftists are never violent, nor did I say that the American left has never committed acts of violence. However, an objective look at American history over the last 20 years will show far more violent activities on the part of the right than the left.
You left off, by the way, the more relevant activities of the punks at WTO meetings ... of course, you're too stuck in the mental midget rut of equating liberalism with communism to think of that.
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I have been hit on before, but its been at gay clubs... Are you jealous Serge?
Hey PD, since you want to point out specific wackos, I just happened to read this on Drudge - I am sure if I looked I could find just as many liberal murderers and criminals
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HIGH SCHOOL ATTACK: KERRY TAUNTS TIED TO FIGHT
Wed Nov 10 2004 09:55:52 ET
Three high school students face charges for using a bat to beat another student who taunted them about being John Kerry supporters days after the contentious election.
The 17-year-old Apple Valley victim was assaulted Thursday in a Minnesota Zoo parking lot near Apple Valley's School of Environmental Studies, better known as the zoo school. Chad McKay, also 17, stood over the victim attempting to protect him.
"It's a good thing to see young people interested and excited about politics," said Dakota County Attorney James Backstrom. "It's obviously very disturbing to see this kind of violence over it."
The SAINT PAUL PIONEER PRESS reported in morning editions: The argument began earlier in the day Thursday with a discussion about candidates the minors had supported for president, Backstrom said. The two victims supported President Bush.
"We were sitting in the computer room at school, and there was kind of a political debate," said Chad McKay of Arden Hills. "Some people said only gay people vote for Bush." Chad said the victim said "only gay people would vote for Kerry because he supports gay marriage."
Backstrom said the victims then "called the other guys some names."
Chad said later in the afternoon when he and the victim were walking to their cars they heard their three senior classmates yelling at them, according to the police report.
Chad got to his car, but the three 17-year-olds attacked the victim, he said, hitting him in face, including with a baseball bat and kicking him. One boy had a padlock wrapped around his finger, Chad said.
Developing...
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 03:03 PM Serge, I will hold your hand. I am comfortable with my sexuality, and I certainly do not harbour any ill will for homosexuals. What people do in their private lives, as long as its between consenting adults, its their business.
But their is a difference between trying to force gay marriage down peoples throats.
Uhhhh .... where is anyone being forced into a gay marriage?
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Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Nov 10 2004, 03:09 PM You are right ... I think you are a lot closer to Ashcroft, McVeigh, the Florida Conservative Union, and other kooks than you feel comfortable admitting.
If you are really making the argument that my liberalism somehow equates to Lennin/Trotsky/Stalin/Mao-style communism, then you prove it.
I did not say that leftists are never violent, nor did I say that the American left has never committed acts of violence. However, an objective look at American history over the last 20 years will show far more violent activities on the part of the right than the left.
You left off, by the way, the more relevant activities of the punks at WTO meetings ... of course, you're too stuck in the mental midget rut of equating liberalism with communism to think of that.
Modern liberalism has direct connections with socialism/communism.
Through out history the left in the US supported Lenin/Stalin, and other communist regimes. There were many leaders in the left who acively supported and excused socialist regimes - especially in the USSR.
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 03:09 PM I have been hit on before, but its been at gay clubs... Are you jealous Serge?
Hey PD, since you want to point out specific wackos, I just happened to read this on Drudge - I am sure if I looked I could find just as many liberal murderers and criminals
Quote:
HIGH SCHOOL ATTACK: KERRY TAUNTS TIED TO FIGHT
Wed Nov 10 2004 09:55:52 ET
Three high school students face charges for using a bat to beat another student who taunted them about being John Kerry supporters days after the contentious election.
The 17-year-old Apple Valley victim was assaulted Thursday in a Minnesota Zoo parking lot near Apple Valley's School of Environmental Studies, better known as the zoo school. Chad McKay, also 17, stood over the victim attempting to protect him.
"It's a good thing to see young people interested and excited about politics," said Dakota County Attorney James Backstrom. "It's obviously very disturbing to see this kind of violence over it."
The SAINT PAUL PIONEER PRESS reported in morning editions: The argument began earlier in the day Thursday with a discussion about candidates the minors had supported for president, Backstrom said. The two victims supported President Bush.
"We were sitting in the computer room at school, and there was kind of a political debate," said Chad McKay of Arden Hills. "Some people said only gay people vote for Bush." Chad said the victim said "only gay people would vote for Kerry because he supports gay marriage."
Backstrom said the victims then "called the other guys some names."
Chad said later in the afternoon when he and the victim were walking to their cars they heard their three senior classmates yelling at them, according to the police report.
Chad got to his car, but the three 17-year-olds attacked the victim, he said, hitting him in face, including with a baseball bat and kicking him. One boy had a padlock wrapped around his finger, Chad said.
Developing...
So let me see if I got this straight ...
You are offering as "proof" that leftists are violent the fact that three high school idiots, engaged in some sort of Buff-style argument (tossing the gay thing around), beat up another kid.
I suspect you are a very happy person, Mike. Downright blissful, I'll bet.
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 03:12 PM
Modern liberalism has direct connections with socialism/communism.
Through out history the left in the US supported Lenin/Stalin, and other communist regimes. There were many leaders in the left who acively supported and excused socialist regimes - especially in the USSR.
hmmm...I happen to know more about leaders and countries who...supported Hitler.
Don't worry, if I ever go to bat for the other team, you and Lee would be first people I let know!
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 03:12 PM Modern liberalism has direct connections with socialism/communism.
Through out history the left in the US supported Lenin/Stalin, and other communist regimes. There were many leaders in the left who acively supported and excused socialist regimes - especially in the USSR.
There have been (and probably still are) leftists who supported the Soviet Union.
There have been (and probably still are) right-wingers who supported Nazism.
Not all conservatives support Nazism. Not all liberals support communism.
You have to remember that the Communists have probably killed off more liberals than Nazis and Facists combined, going back to the Russian Revolution. They, at least, are smart enough to understand that there is a significant difference between conventional Western liberalism and any form of Marxism.
I realize that may be hard for you to understand ... it does make the world much more complicated.
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