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Old 05-23-2004   #51
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ah, Joe, sorry you couldn't find retorts to my taking apart your articles
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Serge, you took apart nothing. Here are a few of your errors:

"OVERWHELMING majority of americans and legal residents have no problems obtaining reasonably priced medical care" - Nothing to be proud of. Other countries do much, much better.

"and what it ommits that Americans pay 1/2 of what the rest of the world pays for gasoline" - WRONG!

"and what it mits that American tax rates are 1/2 of what the rest of the world pays to cover those 1/2 priced medecine." - WRONG!
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greg, if you make 100k, and are STUPID enough to take it as direct salary income, then you get taxed to shit.

If you get paid dividends, your tax rate (effective) is about 20%.

If you make 100k or more a year personally (aside from whatever profit your business makes) you can afford a good accountant to structure things so you don't pay insane levels of tax.

It's all in how you do it.

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For an individual, 47 cents in the dollar over $62,500.

But nobody with a good accountant actually pays that.
$62,500 AUD is $46875 USD

the rate at this salary is only 22%

you are right, you pay MORE than double in taxes
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I like paying 40% more than CAnucks for the SAME MEDICINE
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Most people earn much less than that. I have made some calculations for an individual making $25,000 a year.

Tax paid in USA: $3400
Tax paid in Australia: $3672

Quite a world away from double the amount.
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$25,000 in US salary, has $5000 deduction for single and 11% tax rate
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how the fuck do you calculate US taxes when you don't know shit about USA tax code?
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Joe, good URL, bad conclusions
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they show INCOME per capita, NOT taxes!!!!

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Joe, good URL, bad conclusions
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they show INCOME per capita, NOT taxes!!!!

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did you read the legend?
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Serge, it shows TAX REVENUE per capita. Go and take another look.

On a per capita basis, Americans are taxed MORE than Australians.

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are we lookign at the same thing???


Map & Graph: Economy: Budget (revenues) (per capita) (Top 100 Countries)
View this stat: Revenues Revenues) (per $ GDP Show map full screen

Country Description Amount
1. Holy See (Vatican City) $190450.05 per person
2. Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) $22312.09 per person
3. Monaco $16122.00 per person
4. Norway $15771.68 per person
5. Pitcairn Islands $15529.44 per person
6. San Marino $14225.25 per person
7. Sweden $13403.79 per person
8. Liechtenstein $12798.31 per person
9. Iceland $12464.47 per person
10. Luxembourg $12110.34 per person
11. Greenland $11456.94 per person
12. Gibraltar $11052.70 per person
13. Belgium $11021.38 per person
14. Faroe Islands $10529.72 per person
15. Saint Pierre and Miquelon $10034.40 per person
16. Denmark $9824.70 per person
17. Germany $9733.20 per person
18. Bermuda $9452.25 per person
19. United Kingdom $9401.83 per person
20. Italy $8689.90 per person
21. Netherlands $8296.95 per person
22. United Arab Emirates $8048.87 per person
23. Ireland $7823.37 per person
24. New Zealand $7389.95 per person
25. Brunei $6981.32 per person
Yes, we sure are:

26. Finland $6954.63 per person
27. United States $6702.42 per person
28. Jersey $6666.22 per person
29. Man, Isle of $6531.01 per person
30. Austria $6472.72 per person
31. Cayman Islands $6324.22 per person
32. Israel $6294.41 per person
33. Qatar $6119.56 per person
34. Singapore $6053.90 per person
35. Guernsey $5882.62 per person
36. British Virgin Islands $5591.34 per person
37. Andorra $5567.60 per person
38. Canada $5545.35 per person
39. Kuwait $5038.56 per person
40. France $4752.36 per person
41. Portugal $4454.55 per person
42. Australia $4398.94 per person
43. Greece $4219.01 per person
44. Slovenia $4189.74 per person
45. Switzerland $4099.12 per person
46. Svalbard $4091.07 per person
47. New Caledonia $4085.90 per person
48. French Polynesia $3814.97 per person
49. Malta $3746.06 per person
50. Montserrat $3490.82 per person

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have you lost your mind completely?

27. United States $6702.42 per person
28. Jersey $6666.22 per person
29. Man, Isle of $6531.01 per person
30. Austria $6472.72 per person
31. Cayman Islands $6324.22 per person
32. Israel $6294.41 per person
33. Qatar $6119.56 per person
34. Singapore $6053.90 per person
35. Guernsey $5882.62 per person
36. British Virgin Islands $5591.34 per person
37. Andorra $5567.60 per person
38. Canada $5545.35 per person
39. Kuwait $5038.56 per person
40. France $4752.36 per person
41. Portugal $4454.55 per person
42. Australia $4398.94 per person
shows that americans earn 50% MORE than australians....
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Joe,
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27. United States $6702.42 per person
28. Jersey $6666.22 per person
29. Man, Isle of $6531.01 per person
30. Austria $6472.72 per person
31. Cayman Islands $6324.22 per person
32. Israel $6294.41 per person
33. Qatar $6119.56 per person
34. Singapore $6053.90 per person
35. Guernsey $5882.62 per person
36. British Virgin Islands $5591.34 per person
37. Andorra $5567.60 per person
38. Canada $5545.35 per person
39. Kuwait $5038.56 per person
40. France $4752.36 per person
41. Portugal $4454.55 per person
42. Australia $4398.94 per person
shows that americans earn 50% MORE than australians....
Serge it is not just income taxes but ALL taxes.

Also, please note that even when you take income per capita into account, you are still taxed more than we are.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_bud_rev_cap

Come on Serge where are your maths skills? You can work it out!



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