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Old 04-26-2008   #21
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Strictly speaking imho (but I think most of the newbie boards cozy, voltars, netponds newbie section would agree with me) a newbie should not be running a paysite. They are pretty much doomed from the word go.
In my experience you are pretty much right.

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They do not understand traffic. They should not be buying traffic or having it bought for them (as many turnkey programs do) because this offers no real understanding of how to build traffic.
Our newbs who take traffic advice and can wait the first few months out, understand and come up smelling roses, or petunias (that's a flower I see you as most, sarettah - please, correct me if I'm wrong )

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The best traffic is organic and unless they are work towards building a good base of self generated traffic, eventually they will fail.
Yes! People who want to start with a new site pasting/posting t&a banners everywhere instead of basic text links as I suggest for new sites/traffic campaigns will be sorely disappointed.

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Noone, but especially newbs, should host on a turnkey, all in one solution. There should be several degrees of separation between your host, your registrar, your designer, etc etc etc. Having it all in one place seems convenient until something happens.
i can unerstand the hesitancy, but really we're just big-ass sweethearts and the only thing that "happens" is lack of communication or non-payment...

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Unscrupulous owners can hijack traffic, hold sites hostage, hold domains hostage, etc etc. When you do this you are putting control of your living into one basket. It is always better to have control of your own project.
Right and absolutely. But no matter how many aspects you "control" if you don't pay your hosting bill, you're sunk...

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I have had to rescue way too many people from this type of situation.

To sell such a system to newbs is imho just wrong, period.
I agree, and we've turned down people... but mostly we've warned them ahead of time. Like I said, they have to have the time, for example, to exploit the new enterprise.. and they'll tell you they DO have the time... but, they lie sigh sigh ultimately though they're fooling themselves.
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