just so I am not hijacking a thread here

[JoesHO]

Once again, I believe the CONTEXT of which one views a statement is important.

I too see that what hellpuppy said in that thread seemed like a put down to any and all working level people.....

However I do not believe that is what the context of his statement was meant to portray.

I believe he was trying to make a specific point about Bob and his history of being on a higher level pedestal in certain context, as what seems now to be a lower level position...

Now for the substance of that perception of mine in itself, I believe one must ask.... again a context question

lets say ( and I do not know if this is the case or not ) but for hypothetical instance here .... lets just say that company " owner" or "principle" #A owns a piece of a company, and for whatever reason is unhappy or has problems within the organization with partners, creative structure, beliefs in the business future road to take, etc.... whatever the differences may be.

SO Principle #a has a couple options here, he/she can fight with the other partners to who knows what end. meaning they can waste time and money, or hurt feelings and thereby seal the failure at some point of the company as they will never recover to see eye to eye again, they can have it mediated, litigated, or a disolution and split the money and move on ( we all know setting up new is not that easy and would require a lot more than the initial set up did.... oh and now you are on your own or you have inherited a group of unhappy employees that just had the scare of losing their jobs ... come along with you as well to rebuild so they are less than 100% committed and motivated no matter what they say verbally at this point.

Or Principle #a may just settle and quietly move out of the picture , this will inevitably lead them to find work ... so they take a position with company X and in the end that "low level" job instead of being an " owner " of a company may turn out to be a more profitable venture for them and give them the creative space they felt they were not getting as an owner of another company.....

This is just one scenario of course...

Believe me when Partners are involved ANYTHING can happen and often times does... so "failure" is not always the appropriate wording in these types of cases or situations I believe.


I realize that Hellpuppy was spot on when he described a perception that many people have when viewing a situation where a leader or owner has appeared to take a lesser role as a " where there is smoke there is fire" type of thing..... However I also believe that many times this is a mistaken observation as well. So i say again I believe CONTEXT is everything when making these types of observations and assessments of others motivations to make the moves they need to or want to make .... So unless the specifics are known I think it is hard to make the judgment on some one else's motivations.