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Old 01-16-2005   #51
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The rule of thumb in the military when it comes to "legal vs illegal orders" is to obey the order first and then question it... It is patently obvious that they "small group" at the prison was following orders.. Several of them questioned the orders and were basically told to shut up..

The commanding officer is ultimately responsible for all actions of any personnel within their command.

Thus the CO should go down, all officers involved should go down, and any of the enlisted personnel who did not question what were obviously illegal orders should perhaps serve some punishment.

That is not what will happen, but it what should happen.
That is a very good point. But many war criminals in the past have used the "following orders" argument and we have scoffed. Because they were on the other side.
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I said .....

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This thread returns right fucking now to be over issues and the subject in hand.
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I think nick is overcompensating with all those kids
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The rule of thumb in the military when it comes to "legal vs illegal orders" is to obey the order first and then question it... It is patently obvious that they "small group" at the prison was following orders.. Several of them questioned the orders and were basically told to shut up..

The commanding officer is ultimately responsible for all actions of any personnel within their command.

Thus the CO should go down, all officers involved should go down, and any of the enlisted personnel who did not question what were obviously illegal orders should perhaps serve some punishment.

That is not what will happen, but it what should happen.
The guy I admire in all this is the one who finally blew the whislte.

It had to be the wet dream come true from some of the spooks & intel guys - an out-of-control guard crew with no training in what they were doing with a broken-down chain of command that were going to do stupid shit anyway.

Sar ... are you holding your breath for anything more than a letter of reprimand being awarded to anyone not declared a Gentleman by act of coongress?
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Yes I have been under fire.

Yes I have been pinned down by incoming.

Yes I have seen the devastating results of a truck bomb that killed 42 american marines.

Yes I have been under airstrikes and seen people killed and have been blown off my feet.

Yes I did serve in the Army militia, but saw no service because we were not at war.
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