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Old 01-28-2004   #51
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How is anyone supposed to EVER be able to afford to retire, afford quality insurance AND pay the bills? They though they had their retirement years taken care of... instead, he'll never be able to truly retire. If anything - God forbid - were to happen to him, I don't know what my mom would do - there's insurance for that too, but will it be enough? How can you prepare for retirement 30 some years in the future without a crystal ball to know how things are really going to turn out?
Kath, is your Dad not getting Medicare? Medicare coverage can be pretty substantial and I know my Dad's only paying $116 a month for the top of the line BCBS supplemental policy (E or F, I think.....they're standard for all insurers). The last two hospital visits for him (with surgery) ran him less than $100.

And, as I stated previously, rates are going up in a large part to cover the bills of those who don't bother to get insurance nor pay their bills. :angry:
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Why then is socialised medicine so popular with the general public in those countries that have it, such as Canada and Australia?
It's not. It is truly terrible.

On those occasiaons when I or my family have had serious problems it has been necessary to grease palms to get timely and decent treatment.

If you haven't, take a look at the Quebecois movie "Barbarian Invasions". It has some scenes that are pretty close to what I have been through.
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I sympathize...particularly because your dad was a police officer. Wonder how much retiring pols in his area get? They usually take care of themselves first.

Let me take this occasion to repeat what I have pointed out a few times in the past.

Social Security was and is a scam. Medicare and Medicaid are little better, considering how much of the money is given away to people below retirement age.

My wife used to be a nurse, and she could tell you horror stories about the Medicare system.

I wish I had a quick solution to the problem; but, unfortunately, I don't. The whole concept of Socialism and Socialised medicine is broken; and there ain't enough superglue and ductape in the world to fix it. It comes back to the fact that if you give someone else the authority to furnish your needs, they WILL decide what your needs are and what they will cost
Yeah, it kills me that he put his life on the line for so many years and has nothing. And you're right - those politicians in the area he retired from (NW Ohio) are living pretty large from what I've been able to dig up (you've got my interest up). It just sucks.

And Peaches... nope, no medicare yet - he turned 65 yesterday... pretty depressing day for him considering all he's still got to deal with on his plate at his age... hopefully medicare will be *something* but my mom's just 57, so she's got a ways to go before she gets any benefits, and she's the one with all the medical needs between the two of them.

Guess I just need to get my act in gear, stock up my own financial securities so that I can save for my future and hopefully get to a point where I can help them out if/when they need it... nothing else to do but to bitch and moan - and I'm tired of that already. <_<
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